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007Sub · 22 October 2013, 05:01 AM

Hey all,

I'm considering getting my first speedy and I can't decide what to get... 321, 861... the newest (whats it called? a 3057.50)?

Please let me know your thoughts. What is the speedmaster to buy and why?

Thanks!!

tifosi · 22 October 2013, 06:30 AM

If you want something new and as close as possible to the "Moon Watch" then you want the 3570.50. Hesalite crystal with solid back, cal.1861.

For me, now, I have the 3573.50. I like the durability of the sapphire crystal and the exhibition back is a bonus. I have been through several Speedies and have settled on this.

You can't go wrong with any Speedy, really.

powerfunk · 22 October 2013, 07:30 AM

I love the 105.012 and 145.012, worn to the moon by Armstrong and Aldrin, respectively. But there are too many great references to call one definitive imho.

Sent from my SPH-D710VMUB using Tapatalk 2

flyinghell34 · 22 October 2013, 07:50 AM

I'm not sure if you are looking for new or would opt for a used vintage piece. I have to say I'm a huge fan of the Transitional Speedmasters from 1968-1969. They are not to hard to come by with some patience.

You get the beauty of the older 321 dial with raised logo, stepped dial, long markers, and ringed sub dials with the newer 861 movement. The 861 came after the 321 and is cheaper to service and the parts are not as scarce as the 321's since the 861 is basically the same movement and the current Speedmasters.

Cesium133 · 22 October 2013, 01:39 PM

I've grown found of the sapphire sandwich. The manual movement is too beautiful to keep hidden IMHO.

(Photo lifted from the web)

007Sub · 23 October 2013, 02:01 AM

Thanks for your great info everyone! I didn't know there was so much variation within the speedy line!

007Sub · 23 October 2013, 02:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by flyinghell34

I'm not sure if you are looking for new or would opt for a used vintage piece. I have to say I'm a huge fan of the Transitional Speedmasters from 1968-1969. They are not to hard to come by with some patience.

You get the beauty of the older 321 dial with raised logo, stepped dial, long markers, and ringed sub dials with the newer 861 movement. The 861 came after the 321 and is cheaper to service and the parts are not as scarce as the 321's since the 861 is basically the same movement and the current Speedmasters.

This one is gorgeous! What should one expect to spend on one of these? What is transitional about it? Just the movement with the dial combo? What is the reference number? Just 861? That is a gorgeous version!

wingku · 23 October 2013, 03:19 AM

I'm getting a chocolate sapphire!!

007Sub · 23 October 2013, 12:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wingku

I'm getting a chocolate sapphire!!

SEND pics! :)

wingku · 24 October 2013, 03:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 007Sub

SEND pics! :)

Should be shipped today, will post pic as soon as in hand!

jmc1080 · 25 October 2013, 08:16 AM

The 3570.50 is my pick.

SUPERDOC · 25 October 2013, 11:55 AM

Without any shadow of a Doubt...

Speedmaster Moonwatch with aventurine Dial...

Lemania Movement...Display Back, Aventurine dial....I went to look at the Darkside of the Moon...and was blown away by this one...

A premium Price...But worth every penny...

-R

wingku · 25 October 2013, 02:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 007Sub

SEND pics! :)

Let's do this! Arrived today!! Sorry for the iphone pics

ocwatching · 25 October 2013, 10:27 PM

hey congrats Wing!
great pickup...love the choc!

007Sub · 28 October 2013, 02:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wingku

Let's do this! Arrived today!! Sorry for the iphone pics

Looks beautiful! Gotta lot that chocolate dial!

wingku · 28 October 2013, 02:59 AM

Yeah amazing color on the chocolate dial!

JCW1980 · 28 October 2013, 03:27 AM

Congrats! Combination of the chocolate dial and exhibition case back... Perfect, IMHO :thumbup:

yld2rob · 28 October 2013, 11:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by flyinghell34

I'm not sure if you are looking for new or would opt for a used vintage piece. I have to say I'm a huge fan of the Transitional Speedmasters from 1968-1969. They are not to hard to come by with some patience.

You get the beauty of the older 321 dial with raised logo, stepped dial, long markers, and ringed sub dials with the newer 861 movement. The 861 came after the 321 and is cheaper to service and the parts are not as scarce as the 321's since the 861 is basically the same movement and the current Speedmasters.

Perfect. That's what I am looking for! Still hunting!

Robbyvm · 29 October 2013, 12:55 AM

without a doubt the 321 Speedy
here's mine

watchcrank · 29 October 2013, 06:47 AM

all great little chronos! 861 much better as to parts and service. But I like my 2998 best. M

gaopa · 29 October 2013, 09:15 PM

When I decided to add a Speedmaster to my collection I settled on the 3570.50 and have no regrets. It is a great watch with so much history. You just can't go wrong with that watch, IMHO. Cheers, Bill P.

wingku · 30 October 2013, 02:04 AM

Nice photos!

DennisJ · 31 October 2013, 12:10 AM

I would personally stay away from anything not Speedmaster Professional, e.g. Reduced, Date, Day Date, Moon Phase....etc
But that is just my very personal opinion

gaopa · 31 October 2013, 12:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dennisj

i would personally stay away from anything not speedmaster professional, e.g. Reduced, date, day date, moon phase....etc
but that is just my very personal opinion

hear hear!

Juggernaut · 2 November 2013, 02:14 AM

I agree...the sapphire sandwich with manual movement will probably be my choice when I'm ready. I do like the chocolate as well...

22 October 2013, 05:01 AM	#1
007Sub "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Real Name: Greg Location: USA Watch: Milsub Posts: 1,635	Which is "the" Speedy to get and why!? Hey all, I'm considering getting my first speedy and I can't decide what to get... 321, 861... the newest (whats it called? a 3057.50)? Please let me know your thoughts. What is the speedmaster to buy and why? Thanks!! __________________ @true_patina @true.dome

22 October 2013, 06:30 AM	#2
tifosi "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Real Name: Russ Location: Southern NJ Posts: 5,760	If you want something new and as close as possible to the "Moon Watch" then you want the 3570.50. Hesalite crystal with solid back, cal.1861. For me, now, I have the 3573.50. I like the durability of the sapphire crystal and the exhibition back is a bonus. I have been through several Speedies and have settled on this. You can't go wrong with any Speedy, really. __________________ Russ

23 October 2013, 02:01 AM	#6
007Sub "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Real Name: Greg Location: USA Watch: Milsub Posts: 1,635	Thanks for your great info everyone! I didn't know there was so much variation within the speedy line! __________________ @true_patina @true.dome

25 October 2013, 10:27 PM	#14
ocwatching "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Real Name: Phil Location: CA Posts: 5,374	hey congrats Wing! great pickup...love the choc! __________________ too much into watches...

22 October 2013, 07:30 AM	#3
powerfunk "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Real Name: Rob Location: Boston, MA Watch: 1530 Posts: 3,799	I love the 105.012 and 145.012, worn to the moon by Armstrong and Aldrin, respectively. But there are too many great references to call one definitive imho. Sent from my SPH-D710VMUB using Tapatalk 2

22 October 2013, 07:50 AM	#4
flyinghell34 "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2013 Location: Napoli Posts: 323	I'm not sure if you are looking for new or would opt for a used vintage piece. I have to say I'm a huge fan of the Transitional Speedmasters from 1968-1969. They are not to hard to come by with some patience. You get the beauty of the older 321 dial with raised logo, stepped dial, long markers, and ringed sub dials with the newer 861 movement. The 861 came after the 321 and is cheaper to service and the parts are not as scarce as the 321's since the 861 is basically the same movement and the current Speedmasters.

22 October 2013, 01:39 PM	#5
Cesium133 "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: USA Posts: 2,037	I've grown found of the sapphire sandwich. The manual movement is too beautiful to keep hidden IMHO. (Photo lifted from the web)

23 October 2013, 03:19 AM	#8
wingku "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Real Name: Wing Location: Calgary,AB,Canada Watch: the World unfold Posts: 1,019	I'm getting a chocolate sapphire!!

25 October 2013, 08:16 AM	#11
jmc1080 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Worcester, MA Posts: 20	The 3570.50 is my pick.

25 October 2013, 11:55 AM	#12
SUPERDOC "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Real Name: R.J. Location: Canada Posts: 1,546	Without any shadow of a Doubt... Speedmaster Moonwatch with aventurine Dial... Lemania Movement...Display Back, Aventurine dial....I went to look at the Darkside of the Moon...and was blown away by this one... A premium Price...But worth every penny... -R

28 October 2013, 02:59 AM	#16
wingku "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Real Name: Wing Location: Calgary,AB,Canada Watch: the World unfold Posts: 1,019	Yeah amazing color on the chocolate dial!

28 October 2013, 03:27 AM	#17
JCW1980 "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: DFW, TX Watch: Speedmaster Posts: 672	Congrats! Combination of the chocolate dial and exhibition case back... Perfect, IMHO :thumbup:

29 October 2013, 12:55 AM	#19
Robbyvm "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Belgium Posts: 2,239	without a doubt the 321 Speedy here's mine

29 October 2013, 06:47 AM	#20
watchcrank "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Real Name: michael Location: Florida Watch: explorer II cream Posts: 1,664	all great little chronos! 861 much better as to parts and service. But I like my 2998 best. M

30 October 2013, 02:04 AM	#22
wingku "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Real Name: Wing Location: Calgary,AB,Canada Watch: the World unfold Posts: 1,019	Nice photos!

31 October 2013, 12:10 AM	#23
DennisJ "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: Tokyo Watch: 16800 Posts: 170	I would personally stay away from anything not Speedmaster Professional, e.g. Reduced, Date, Day Date, Moon Phase....etc But that is just my very personal opinion

2 November 2013, 02:14 AM	#25
Juggernaut "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 901	I agree...the sapphire sandwich with manual movement will probably be my choice when I'm ready. I do like the chocolate as well...

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