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exiger77 · 28 October 2013, 05:00 PM

Anyone has any encounters to share? Which are the country/places with the best deals?

conkers · 28 October 2013, 05:25 PM

Bought most of mine from ADs in Europe and the UK, the only one I bought in HK at an AD I paid way over the odds because I wasn't prepared to wait!! Lesson learned!

exiger77 · 28 October 2013, 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by conkers

Bought most of mine from ADs in Europe and the UK, the only one I bought in HK at an AD I paid way over the odds because I wasn't prepared to wait!! Lesson learned!

What's Europe and UK vats return %?

diver2012 · 28 October 2013, 05:43 PM

UK VAT is 20% - around the EU it varies but normally around 20%.

Atty.Oliver · 28 October 2013, 06:29 PM

Germany would always be the best place for me! Either Munich or Berlin... Expect a 19% vat on your purchases in these cities. I heard that SG (Singapore) is the best one in Asia but I have not tried shopping for watches in this country. Besides, why shop in SG if you could shop in EU??! Most of the fine watches are made in EU anyway. Rather not risk it! ;)

conkers · 28 October 2013, 07:38 PM

Yep UK 20, much of Europe around 20, I think the average is 19.6. Switzerland only 8.

VICI · 29 October 2013, 01:49 AM

How does that all work for a US buyer?

Pay VAT premium... then collect it back at a severely discounted exchange rate at the airport?

What's the final discount?

TAKUYA · 29 October 2013, 02:12 AM

Caribbean I think???

andrey_ · 29 October 2013, 02:58 AM

From what I've heard, I think Greece is hard to beat.
Despite the fact that we have 23% VAT, there are very big discounts, from 20-25% at most rolex and up to 30% at other brands.
Of course there are some exceptions, such us panerai and very new rolex models but generally one can achieve great discounts.

SubKing · 29 October 2013, 03:02 AM

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Originally Posted by takuya

Caribbean I think???

x2 on that.
My encounter with Caribbean AP dealers is that they give 25% to 30% off as well as no tax, but that was 2 years ago before AP started to change things like lowering prices and closing dealers. Now, things may be different.

bayerische · 29 October 2013, 04:47 AM

My AP dealer right now is DavidSW.

QueueCumber · 29 October 2013, 05:42 AM

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Originally Posted by bayerische

My AP dealer right now is DavidSW.

Exactly, the country of Florida!

bayerische · 29 October 2013, 06:12 AM

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Originally Posted by QueueCumber

Exactly, the country of Florida!

It's almost a country.

Submarino · 29 October 2013, 07:52 AM

Mexico.

Hamish · 29 October 2013, 08:20 AM

David SW for me as well

Epwerkz · 29 October 2013, 01:10 PM

Madrid and i guess either hkg or singapore

exiger77 · 29 October 2013, 02:05 PM

Singapore is 7%.. Malaysia is 0%.. HK is 0%..

exiger77 · 29 October 2013, 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by bayerische

My AP dealer right now is DavidSW.

Who is DavidSW?

Hairdude1 · 29 October 2013, 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by bayerische

My AP dealer right now is DavidSW.

David has sourced all my APs thus making him my AP AD

QueueCumber · 29 October 2013, 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by exiger77

Who is DavidSW?

A trusted seller on the forums.

lee2777 · 29 October 2013, 06:03 PM

I from sg, but i get my ap and pp from italy. Good discount and vat too.

exiger77 · 29 October 2013, 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by lee2777

I from sg, but i get my ap and pp from italy. Good discount and vat too.

Lee, on the general is how much cheaper than retail price?

noahjiawei · 29 October 2013, 10:11 PM

Depends, the last time I went to AP botique to enquire on the carbon novelty retail was 47k SGD. They offered a 10% discount plus 5 year warranty and they said that if its brought out of the country there is another 7% discount (tax rebate).

For the dealers they were offering at about 20-25% discount off 47k and an additional 7% rebate when u take the watch out of the country for the carbon novelty but only 3 years warranty.

More discounts between 25-30% off the retail for RO watches at the dealers. Together with an additional 7% if u take it out of the country.

QueueCumber · 29 October 2013, 11:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Hamish

David SW for me as well

The country of DavidSW.

prognosis · 30 October 2013, 12:02 AM

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Originally Posted by exiger77

Lee, on the general is how much cheaper than retail price?

Ain't Lee (obviously!) but I can help, from Singapore too. The ROOs at ADs would probably be discounted around 25%. Tax is 7% here, so you can do the math. The best deals are through grey dealers in my opinion, sets are coming in from Europe. My friend got a piece from a grey dealer, believe it was purchased at Bucherer (as far as my ailing memory recalls).

Last year December's prices for Black Themes: Dealer offered ~S$25.6k after 25% discount, grey dealer brought it in at S$22.4k. I have seen a ROO, can't remember which, advertised for S$22.9k in recent times. Try these links for comparison:

http://www.sg-roc.com/forums/75-Priv...vate-Seller%29

http://www.sg-roc.com/forums/25-Comm...Advertisers%29

http://www.sg-roc.com/forums/45-Other-Watch-Garage

exiger77 · 30 October 2013, 12:11 AM

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Originally Posted by prognosis

Ain't Lee (obviously!) but I can help, from Singapore too. The ROOs at ADs would probably be discounted around 25%. Tax is 7% here, so you can do the math. The best deals are through grey dealers in my opinion, sets are coming in from Europe. My friend got a piece from a grey dealer, believe it was purchased at Bucherer (as far as my ailing memory recalls).

Last year December's prices for Black Themes: Dealer offered ~S$25.6k after 25% discount, grey dealer brought it in at S$22.4k. I have seen a ROO, can't remember which, advertised for S$22.9k in recent times. Try these links for comparison:

http://www.sg-roc.com/forums/75-Priv...vate-Seller%29

http://www.sg-roc.com/forums/25-Comm...Advertisers%29

http://www.sg-roc.com/forums/45-Other-Watch-Garage

aid..

lee2777 · 30 October 2013, 06:52 PM

I got my rg44 at Italy AD euro31k after vat work out to $46k, I think not bad.

N_Architect · 30 October 2013, 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by prognosis

Ain't Lee (obviously!) but I can help, from Singapore too. The ROOs at ADs would probably be discounted around 25%. Tax is 7% here, so you can do the math. The best deals are through grey dealers in my opinion, sets are coming in from Europe. My friend got a piece from a grey dealer, believe it was purchased at Bucherer (as far as my ailing memory recalls).

Last year December's prices for Black Themes: Dealer offered ~S$25.6k after 25% discount, grey dealer brought it in at S$22.4k. I have seen a ROO, can't remember which, advertised for S$22.9k in recent times. Try these links for comparison:

http://www.sg-roc.com/forums/75-Priv...vate-Seller%29

http://www.sg-roc.com/forums/25-Comm...Advertisers%29

http://www.sg-roc.com/forums/45-Other-Watch-Garage

+1

Got my first AP last week from a grey dealer here in Singapore. Discounted off retail somewhere between 25-30%, traded-in a piece I had as well which I was not using. Three year guarantee stamped on the day of purchase.

Watch was brand new, all stickers on, and final price was $500 lower than U.S. internet price (Gemnation.com). Mind you that the price I paid was with Singapore tax ("G.S.T.", 7%) inclusive, as I am a permanent resident here now and cannot claim this tax back.

AP boutique S'pore gives 5 year guarantee but 10% (or even 15% in a good number of cases) off retail. Couldn't be happier with the purchase so far, glad I made the step forward and did not buy Rolex for a fifth time. Will easily buy from the same grey dealer again.

Master17 · 4 November 2013, 06:34 PM

I buy my AP at Israel..
They give me great prices.. 20-25% from new models,
Sometimes even more on old models..
The VAT is 18% and I get it back because I have a foreign passport :)
The best thing is that they offering a free shipping to Europe..

conkers · 4 November 2013, 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Master17

I buy my AP at Israel..
They give me great prices.. 20-25% from new models,
Sometimes even more on old models..
The VAT is 18% and I get it back because I have a foreign passport :)
The best thing is that they offering a free shipping to Europe..

That is impressive. So what would a 44mm ROO Novelty Rose Gold be for example, as the list prices differ from country to country.

28 October 2013, 05:00 PM	#1
exiger77 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Equator Posts: 506	Best country to buy AP - Good buys! Anyone has any encounters to share? Which are the country/places with the best deals?

29 October 2013, 02:12 AM	#8
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bayerische "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Real Name: Andreas Location: Margaritaville Watch: Smurf Posts: 19,879	My AP dealer right now is DavidSW. __________________ Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man.

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4 November 2013, 06:34 PM	#29
Master17 "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Italy Watch: Audemars piguet Posts: 21	Israel for me I buy my AP at Israel.. They give me great prices.. 20-25% from new models, Sometimes even more on old models.. The VAT is 18% and I get it back because I have a foreign passport :) The best thing is that they offering a free shipping to Europe..

28 October 2013, 05:25 PM	#2
conkers "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Real Name: Roger Location: Hong Kong Watch: Too many! Posts: 6,132	Bought most of mine from ADs in Europe and the UK, the only one I bought in HK at an AD I paid way over the odds because I wasn't prepared to wait!! Lesson learned!

28 October 2013, 05:43 PM	#4
diver2012 "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: N/A Watch: N/A Posts: 1,374	UK VAT is 20% - around the EU it varies but normally around 20%.

28 October 2013, 06:29 PM	#5
Atty.Oliver Banned Join Date: May 2012 Location: San Francisco Watch: AP, Pam & IWC Posts: 84	Germany would always be the best place for me! Either Munich or Berlin... Expect a 19% vat on your purchases in these cities. I heard that SG (Singapore) is the best one in Asia but I have not tried shopping for watches in this country. Besides, why shop in SG if you could shop in EU??! Most of the fine watches are made in EU anyway. Rather not risk it! ;)

28 October 2013, 07:38 PM	#6
conkers "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Real Name: Roger Location: Hong Kong Watch: Too many! Posts: 6,132	Yep UK 20, much of Europe around 20, I think the average is 19.6. Switzerland only 8.

29 October 2013, 01:49 AM	#7
VICI "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2012 Real Name: Alex Location: Gotham City Watch: IG: Mr_Right_NYC Posts: 5,672	How does that all work for a US buyer? Pay VAT premium... then collect it back at a severely discounted exchange rate at the airport? What's the final discount?

29 October 2013, 02:58 AM	#9
andrey_ "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Real Name: Victor Location: Athens Watch: 16700 Posts: 300	From what I've heard, I think Greece is hard to beat. Despite the fact that we have 23% VAT, there are very big discounts, from 20-25% at most rolex and up to 30% at other brands. Of course there are some exceptions, such us panerai and very new rolex models but generally one can achieve great discounts.

29 October 2013, 08:20 AM	#15
Hamish "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Earth Watch: 5575 Posts: 1,674	David SW for me as well

29 October 2013, 01:10 PM	#16
Epwerkz "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Real Name: Felix Location: Jakarta Posts: 314	Madrid and i guess either hkg or singapore

29 October 2013, 02:05 PM	#17
exiger77 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Equator Posts: 506	Singapore is 7%.. Malaysia is 0%.. HK is 0%..

29 October 2013, 06:03 PM	#21
lee2777 "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: singapore Posts: 14	I from sg, but i get my ap and pp from italy. Good discount and vat too.

29 October 2013, 10:11 PM	#23
noahjiawei "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: singapore Posts: 14	Depends, the last time I went to AP botique to enquire on the carbon novelty retail was 47k SGD. They offered a 10% discount plus 5 year warranty and they said that if its brought out of the country there is another 7% discount (tax rebate). For the dealers they were offering at about 20-25% discount off 47k and an additional 7% rebate when u take the watch out of the country for the carbon novelty but only 3 years warranty. More discounts between 25-30% off the retail for RO watches at the dealers. Together with an additional 7% if u take it out of the country.

30 October 2013, 06:52 PM	#27
lee2777 "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: singapore Posts: 14	I got my rg44 at Italy AD euro31k after vat work out to $46k, I think not bad.

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