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bondtoys · 26 November 2013, 05:47 PM

Have sent KEVIN ROUSE (kioskmanagement@yahoo.com) funds for his DayDate beginning of November and he's been silent ever since. Of course I have not received the watch.

I still have little hope for a good outcoming - but wanted to give everyone a warning as he plastered the web with sales ads for this particular watch in october (when he has already received a downpayment).

Could be a potential FRAUD.

Data that I know:

KEVIN ROUSE *12/17/1970
1931 Rittenhouse Sq.
Philadelphia PA 19103

email: kioskmanagement@yahoo.com

His bank: PNC BANK -150 W. Chelten Ave. Philadelphia, PA. 19144

I'll keep you updated on this threat

bondtoys · 1 December 2013, 01:14 AM

Update:

He's listed another watch yesterday here:
http://www.watchtalkforums.info/forums/thread76490.html

Evereybody be careful!

FNFZ4 · 1 December 2013, 01:43 AM

looks like he is a new member. Did you checked his references? Prices are too good to be true.

Mosco · 1 December 2013, 01:52 AM

this guy seems to be penetrating fora like it's nothing.

Lgear080 · 1 December 2013, 02:07 AM

Two questions- what forum did this start on? Deal details?

afc1 · 1 December 2013, 08:00 AM

Very sorry you are going through this. A while ago a member called "MR.GMT" messaged me saying he was interested in a Breitling I had for sale. He was also from Philadelphia and had the same name. He said he wanted to buy the watch immediately but never followed through after I gave him wire instructions. Not sure what he was trying to accomplish as I would not ship without the payment clearing (and I'm pretty sure I told him this) but the whole thing was fishy. His info is below:

Terrell Rouse
407 n Salford st. Philadelphia, Pa 19131
(484)4435363

His account seemed perfectly normal before this so not sure if it was hacked. Just thought that because the location and last name were the same, they could be related somehow.

Be careful out there everyone!

bondtoys · 29 December 2013, 04:01 AM

I gave up hope that all this will come to a good end.

Is there any TRF member in Philadelphia who could be so kind to drive by the address and see if he's still living there?

As I'd like to file him with the local police - how can I do this from Germany?

bondtoys · 30 December 2013, 01:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by afc1

Very sorry you are going through this. A while ago a member called "MR.GMT" messaged me saying he was interested in a Breitling I had for sale. He was also from Philadelphia and had the same name. He said he wanted to buy the watch immediately but never followed through after I gave him wire instructions. Not sure what he was trying to accomplish as I would not ship without the payment clearing (and I'm pretty sure I told him this) but the whole thing was fishy. His info is below:

Terrell Rouse
407 n Salford st. Philadelphia, Pa 19131
(484)4435363

His account seemed perfectly normal before this so not sure if it was hacked. Just thought that because the location and last name were the same, they could be related somehow.

Be careful out there everyone!

Thanks for that info!

I have been told that my seller used a fake PA drivers license.

Do you have any other info on this guy?

bondtoys · 30 December 2013, 08:11 PM

Edit:

Now it's clear that we have a scammer:

He sent me a faked driver's id.
The pics from his sales ads are lifted here:

http://www.network54.com/Forum/20767...ding+Condition!!

He recently goes with the email address

iindulge@yahoo.com

and continues to sell over the net. Everyone be careful!

LLPavorsky · 5 January 2014, 05:07 AM

http://forums.watchnet.com/index.php...971#msg_653092

Lgear080 · 5 January 2014, 07:17 AM

Perhaps a giveaway is that he is selling at $15-16k watch for $11k?

afc1 · 5 January 2014, 08:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bondtoys

Thanks for that info!

I have been told that my seller used a fake PA drivers license.

Do you have any other info on this guy?

I wish I had more info to give you, but that's all unfortunately. So sorry you've had to go through this.

Please let me know if I can help out in any other way.

sdwtchlvr · 5 January 2014, 05:08 PM

The bastard just bumped his ad here.

http://www.watchfreeks.com/30-watche...tick-dial.html

threemonkeys · 5 January 2014, 05:34 PM

Perhaps we should all send him a message and include a link of this thread to that forum's mods.

thsiao · 5 January 2014, 05:38 PM

Report him here, http://www.ic3.gov/default.aspx.

It really works... I was scammed once for a few hundred dollars (granted the guy scammed several people and we all reported him through that website) and was contacted by a detective that was on the case after our report. Actually got my money back which I thought was surprising.

cali kid · 5 January 2014, 06:37 PM

Got a buddy that's a mod over at watchfreeks, just sent him this link and he just banned the guy and removed the sales post...

bondtoys · 8 January 2014, 11:01 PM

Thanks guys for all the feedback and help offers.

I have reported him with ic3.gov 2 weeks ago.

His ip when registering on TRF was

166.216.130.44

which leads to Wichita Kansas.
http://whatismyipaddress.com/ip/166.216.130.44

here is the fake drivers id that he's sent me:

Any additional help is highly appreciated! Thanks!

dysondiver · 8 January 2014, 11:09 PM

surley this info should be sent to the local police station ,,, if there was a local member who could even take the info over in person , it may start an investigation, or help an on going one.

Lgear080 · 9 January 2014, 12:05 AM

Who takes a do photo in a tux?

Lgear080 · 9 January 2014, 12:06 AM

Drivers licence

dysondiver · 9 January 2014, 12:17 AM

not allowed to smile either , and not square on to camera , it wouldnt be accepted here ,, i wonder if its real , or is that fake too.

Baco Noir · 9 January 2014, 12:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dysondiver

not allowed to smile either , and not square on to camera , it wouldnt be accepted here ,, i wonder if its real , or is that fake too.

He said the DL is fake above. Seeing a DL photo in a tux is a first for me too - WTF!

E70x5 · 9 January 2014, 08:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bondtoys

Thanks guys for all the feedback and help offers.

I have reported him with ic3.gov 2 weeks ago.

His ip when registering on TRF was

166.216.130.44

which leads to Wichita Kansas.
http://whatismyipaddress.com/ip/166.216.130.44

here is the fake drivers id that he's sent me:

Any additional help is highly appreciated! Thanks!

I'm local in Philadelphia, I'll swing by the address on the DL and do sum snooping. I'll try to get my cop buddy to run the license and see what comes up. Give me a few days and I'll report back with an update. I HATE SCAMMERS ! ! Hopefully everything works out for you.

Baco Noir · 9 January 2014, 09:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bondtoys

Thanks guys for all the feedback and help offers.

I have reported him with ic3.gov 2 weeks ago.

His ip when registering on TRF was

166.216.130.44

which leads to Wichita Kansas.
http://whatismyipaddress.com/ip/166.216.130.44

here is the fake drivers id that he's sent me:

Any additional help is highly appreciated! Thanks!

Quote:

Originally Posted by E70x5

I'm local in Philadelphia, I'll swing by the address on the DL and do sum snooping. I'll try to get my cop buddy to run the license and see what comes up. Give me a few days and I'll report back with an update. I HATE SCAMMERS ! ! Hopefully everything works out for you.

Good luck with that. Sounds like he doesn't even live in PA.

cali kid · 9 January 2014, 09:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lgear080

Who takes a do photo in a tux?

THIS^^^^^^

mjclark32 · 9 January 2014, 10:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bondtoys

Thanks guys for all the feedback and help offers.

I have reported him with ic3.gov 2 weeks ago.

His ip when registering on TRF was

166.216.130.44

which leads to Wichita Kansas.
http://whatismyipaddress.com/ip/166.216.130.44

here is the fake drivers id that he's sent me:

Any additional help is highly appreciated! Thanks!

Quote:

Originally Posted by E70x5

I'm local in Philadelphia, I'll swing by the address on the DL and do sum snooping. I'll try to get my cop buddy to run the license and see what comes up. Give me a few days and I'll report back with an update. I HATE SCAMMERS ! ! Hopefully everything works out for you.

No one wears a tux to the dmv, that would be my first red flag on the id.
I'm outside Philly and can swing by if necessary...

mjclark32 · 9 January 2014, 10:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bondtoys

Thanks guys for all the feedback and help offers.

I have reported him with ic3.gov 2 weeks ago.

His ip when registering on TRF was

166.216.130.44

which leads to Wichita Kansas.
http://whatismyipaddress.com/ip/166.216.130.44

here is the fake drivers id that he's sent me:

Any additional help is highly appreciated! Thanks!

Quote:

Originally Posted by E70x5

I'm local in Philadelphia, I'll swing by the address on the DL and do sum snooping. I'll try to get my cop buddy to run the license and see what comes up. Give me a few days and I'll report back with an update. I HATE SCAMMERS ! ! Hopefully everything works out for you.

No one wears a tux to the dmv, that would be my first red flag on the id.
I'm outside Philly and can swing by if necessary, but i really doubt there's anything there, sorry.

mjclark32 · 9 January 2014, 10:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by afc1

Very sorry you are going through this. A while ago a member called "MR.GMT" messaged me saying he was interested in a Breitling I had for sale. He was also from Philadelphia and had the same name. He said he wanted to buy the watch immediately but never followed through after I gave him wire instructions. Not sure what he was trying to accomplish as I would not ship without the payment clearing (and I'm pretty sure I told him this) but the whole thing was fishy. His info is below:

Terrell Rouse
407 n Salford st. Philadelphia, Pa 19131
(484)4435363

His account seemed perfectly normal before this so not sure if it was hacked. Just thought that because the location and last name were the same, they could be related somehow.

Be careful out there everyone!

Give this info to the police as well
407 n Salford st. Philadelphia, Pa 19131
I zillowed the address and it's not in the nicest area

hdrazor251 · 9 January 2014, 11:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lgear080

Who takes a do photo in a tux?

Right! Reminds me of the license the Griswold kid bought in Vegas Vacation.

Good luck catching this POS.

HL65 · 9 January 2014, 11:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by E70x5

I'm local in Philadelphia, I'll swing by the address on the DL and do sum snooping. I'll try to get my cop buddy to run the license and see what comes up. Give me a few days and I'll report back with an update. I HATE SCAMMERS ! ! Hopefully everything works out for you.

The address does not list an apartment and it is a building not a house so no point in swinging by just google earth it and see. The IP of seller is in Kansas so you won't be finding him in Philly. Lastly I banned the guy here as he was using pics from another seller and he took his game to another forum. It stinks and is a bummer it happened to a good guy! This is why if I am not buying from an AD I am only dealing with a small handful of people all of who are very well known and trusted sellers here. Not with a few references or feed backs left but pages and pages like Tony Geha or DavidSW for example. Again too many scammers and bad folk out there to take a risk and gamble at all...at least for me.

26 November 2013, 05:47 PM	#1
bondtoys "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: World Watch: 16750 Posts: 2,733	KEVIN ROUSE SCAMMER from Philadelphia PA 19103 (kioskmanagement@yahoo.com) BEWARE Have sent KEVIN ROUSE (kioskmanagement@yahoo.com) funds for his DayDate beginning of November and he's been silent ever since. Of course I have not received the watch. I still have little hope for a good outcoming - but wanted to give everyone a warning as he plastered the web with sales ads for this particular watch in october (when he has already received a downpayment). Could be a potential FRAUD. Data that I know: KEVIN ROUSE *12/17/1970 1931 Rittenhouse Sq. Philadelphia PA 19103 email: kioskmanagement@yahoo.com His bank: PNC BANK -150 W. Chelten Ave. Philadelphia, PA. 19144 I'll keep you updated on this threat

1 December 2013, 01:43 AM	#3
FNFZ4 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Real Name: Alfred Location: DC Metro Watch: None Posts: 29,368	looks like he is a new member. Did you checked his references? Prices are too good to be true. __________________ NEED PC HELP? ASK HERE! Watches: Patek 5205G \| Patek 5167A \| 16613 Serti \| 116718 Green \| 216570 Black \| 16700 Pepsi Wish list: Patek 5726/1 \| AP RG Ceramic \| Patek 5712 \| Patek 5130

1 December 2013, 01:52 AM	#4
Mosco "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Real Name: Greg Location: Cincinnati Watch: I like to... Posts: 18,567	this guy seems to be penetrating fora like it's nothing. __________________ Instagram - @CaliberSwiss *“A man who procrastinates in his choosing will inevitably have his choice made for him by circumstance.” - Hunter S. Thompson*

1 December 2013, 08:00 AM	#6
afc1 "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Boston Posts: 1,848	Very sorry you are going through this. A while ago a member called "MR.GMT" messaged me saying he was interested in a Breitling I had for sale. He was also from Philadelphia and had the same name. He said he wanted to buy the watch immediately but never followed through after I gave him wire instructions. Not sure what he was trying to accomplish as I would not ship without the payment clearing (and I'm pretty sure I told him this) but the whole thing was fishy. His info is below: Terrell Rouse 407 n Salford st. Philadelphia, Pa 19131 (484)4435363 His account seemed perfectly normal before this so not sure if it was hacked. Just thought that because the location and last name were the same, they could be related somehow. Be careful out there everyone! __________________ afc1 Watch Collection: Rolex and AP

5 January 2014, 05:07 AM	#10
LLPavorsky "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2009 Real Name: Lee Pavorsky Location: Philadelphia, PA Watch: RG SKY-DWELLER Posts: 445	Email matches your scammer http://forums.watchnet.com/index.php...971#msg_653092 __________________ On the hunt for the next one...... 216570 SS Explorer II Black Dial 116688 Yellow gold YachtMaster II New 326935 Sky-Dweller Rose Gold Choc Dial New BNIB DSSD Deep Blue Scrambled Serial# New YachtMaster Platinum and Stainless F Serial# New My 2004 40th Bday present is my son's college graduation present in 2018! IWJG MEMBER#6219

1 December 2013, 01:14 AM	#2
bondtoys "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: World Watch: 16750 Posts: 2,733	Update: He's listed another watch yesterday here: http://www.watchtalkforums.info/forums/thread76490.html Evereybody be careful!

1 December 2013, 02:07 AM	#5
Lgear080 Banned Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: NYC Posts: 3,506	Two questions- what forum did this start on? Deal details?

29 December 2013, 04:01 AM	#7
bondtoys "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: World Watch: 16750 Posts: 2,733	I gave up hope that all this will come to a good end. Is there any TRF member in Philadelphia who could be so kind to drive by the address and see if he's still living there? As I'd like to file him with the local police - how can I do this from Germany?

30 December 2013, 08:11 PM	#9
bondtoys "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: World Watch: 16750 Posts: 2,733	Edit: Now it's clear that we have a scammer: He sent me a faked driver's id. The pics from his sales ads are lifted here: http://www.network54.com/Forum/20767...ding+Condition!! He recently goes with the email address iindulge@yahoo.com and continues to sell over the net. Everyone be careful!

5 January 2014, 07:17 AM	#11
Lgear080 Banned Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: NYC Posts: 3,506	Perhaps a giveaway is that he is selling at $15-16k watch for $11k?

5 January 2014, 05:08 PM	#13
sdwtchlvr "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: SoCal Watch: Rolex Posts: 1,308	The bastard just bumped his ad here. http://www.watchfreeks.com/30-watche...tick-dial.html

5 January 2014, 05:34 PM	#14
threemonkeys "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Real Name: Craig Location: Seattle-ish, USA Watch: GMTIIc, AK, LVc Posts: 7,022	Perhaps we should all send him a message and include a link of this thread to that forum's mods.

5 January 2014, 05:38 PM	#15
thsiao "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: SoCal Posts: 1,248	Report him here, http://www.ic3.gov/default.aspx. It really works... I was scammed once for a few hundred dollars (granted the guy scammed several people and we all reported him through that website) and was contacted by a detective that was on the case after our report. Actually got my money back which I thought was surprising. __________________ Instagram @lifeofawis www.lifeofawis.com

5 January 2014, 06:37 PM	#16
cali kid "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Real Name: Trevor Location: Monterey Co. Ca. Watch: 16610, 16613, 024 Posts: 439	Got a buddy that's a mod over at watchfreeks, just sent him this link and he just banned the guy and removed the sales post... __________________

8 January 2014, 11:01 PM	#17
bondtoys "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: World Watch: 16750 Posts: 2,733	Thanks guys for all the feedback and help offers. I have reported him with ic3.gov 2 weeks ago. His ip when registering on TRF was 166.216.130.44 which leads to Wichita Kansas. http://whatismyipaddress.com/ip/166.216.130.44 here is the fake drivers id that he's sent me: Any additional help is highly appreciated! Thanks!

8 January 2014, 11:09 PM	#18
dysondiver "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Real Name: tom Location: northern ireland Watch: my fins Posts: 10,063	surley this info should be sent to the local police station ,,, if there was a local member who could even take the info over in person , it may start an investigation, or help an on going one.

9 January 2014, 12:05 AM	#19
Lgear080 Banned Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: NYC Posts: 3,506	Who takes a do photo in a tux?

9 January 2014, 12:06 AM	#20
Lgear080 Banned Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: NYC Posts: 3,506	Drivers licence

9 January 2014, 12:17 AM	#21
dysondiver "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Real Name: tom Location: northern ireland Watch: my fins Posts: 10,063	not allowed to smile either , and not square on to camera , it wouldnt be accepted here ,, i wonder if its real , or is that fake too.

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