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david91686 · 10 December 2013, 10:23 AM

a couple of years ago i was in a Local AD ( which i no longer go to) and the salesman said to me " why would you get the Non-Date Sub if you could afford the Date Sub?? and i was dumb enough to let this salesman talk me out of the Non-Date ........... to be honest it left an impression on me for a while and after doing a lot of research both on here and just generally into the history of Rolex i realized just how wrong this salesman was!! has anyone ever heard this from a salesman before?? it truly shows just how little of Rolex's History this Gentlemen actually Knew!! but i was curious if anyone had ever been told this before by someone selling rolex watches???? i know am about to get myself a 114060 and absolutely can not wait to be a part of the club that owns this AMAZING timepiece!! and i believe it will help round out my collection , which already has multiple "Date" Pieces!!

Wesley Crusher · 10 December 2013, 10:27 AM

Working on commission? The bigger the sale, the bigger his paycheck.

iazrollie · 10 December 2013, 10:48 AM

When I bought my wife's DJ, the salesperson told my to get the date over the no-date, because it's more classic. Basically, the cyclops say "ROLEX", whereas the no date would "blend in too much".

psv · 10 December 2013, 10:51 AM

The SubC ND is more balanced IMO. Sure, a date function is practical, but the ND is a nicer watch IMO.

watchwatcher · 10 December 2013, 10:56 AM

To the uninformed, the date is seen as an upgrade...most sales people would fall into this category.

Really I think the clean symmetrical lines are best appreciated by the WIS.

subtona · 10 December 2013, 11:01 AM

That may just have been that salesmans sincere opinion....many here simply prefer to have a date.

As you also point out you have other pieces with a date, as a one & only watch a sub without a date may have left you wanting?

That said, i owned a sub date for many years, but today if i were going to buy a sub, for sure it would be without a date.

AK797 · 10 December 2013, 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Wesley Crusher

Working on commission? The bigger the sale, the bigger his paycheck.

If they recommend the cheaper of two models, now that's when you pay attention.

david91686 · 10 December 2013, 11:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AK797

If they recommend the cheaper of two models, now that's when you pay attention.

haha Very True!!

david91686 · 10 December 2013, 11:09 AM

in doing my research ( in my spare time there is nothing i enjoy more than finding rolex articles/videos/information to read) i have come to the conclusion that the ND sub is really awesome and historic!!!!

Nidal · 10 December 2013, 11:29 AM

Be positive. The date has a little bigger market/demand.

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Wesley Crusher · 10 December 2013, 11:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AK797

If they recommend the cheaper of two models, now that's when you pay attention.

Good point.

stmoore · 10 December 2013, 11:54 AM

He must not be worth a damn. If he were, he'd know that Rolex makes two submariners; the Submariner and the Submariner Date. The Submariner was first. There is no such thing as a "no date" Submariner.

I have a 1680 Red Submariner (date), a 16610LV (date), and a 114060 Submariner (which I purchased for its classic looks).

Jack T · 10 December 2013, 11:58 AM

Sub owners all love their respective models, each has its attractions and followers. My AD offered my ND as a leftover non ceramic model late last year at a fantastic price. He said not only is it about $1,000 less than the Date model, there's a cult among Rolex owners that can trace its lineage back to Jason and the Argonauts ;) So I got it !

AJMarcus · 10 December 2013, 12:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by psv

The SubC ND is more balanced IMO. Sure, a date function is practical, but the ND is a nicer watch IMO.

Exactly

Eradicator · 10 December 2013, 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by david91686

and i was dumb enough to let this salesman talk me out of the Non-Date ........... to be honest it left an impression on me for a while and after doing a lot of research both on here and just generally into the history of Rolex i realized just how wrong this salesman was!!

Considering you already have a small fleet of Rolexes, are you really going to blame the salesman? This is the first time someone in sales has tried to upsell you?

Maybe you should learn to stick with your own opinion and not be so swayed by salesmen or forum members for that matter.

Old Expat Beast · 10 December 2013, 12:21 PM

It's all part of what folk like to call the "AD Experience".

sea-dweller · 10 December 2013, 02:46 PM

I love the date version, I just need this function.

10 December 2013, 10:23 AM	#1
david91686 "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: New Jersey Watch: DayDate II Posts: 310	Sub 114060 Vs. 116610 a couple of years ago i was in a Local AD ( which i no longer go to) and the salesman said to me " why would you get the Non-Date Sub if you could afford the Date Sub?? and i was dumb enough to let this salesman talk me out of the Non-Date ........... to be honest it left an impression on me for a while and after doing a lot of research both on here and just generally into the history of Rolex i realized just how wrong this salesman was!! has anyone ever heard this from a salesman before?? it truly shows just how little of Rolex's History this Gentlemen actually Knew!! but i was curious if anyone had ever been told this before by someone selling rolex watches???? i know am about to get myself a 114060 and absolutely can not wait to be a part of the club that owns this AMAZING timepiece!! and i believe it will help round out my collection , which already has multiple "Date" Pieces!! __________________ 1-Rolex DayDate II- Yellow Gold- Arabic Cocentric Face. 2-Rolex Submariner 16610LV-50Th Anniversary Model. 3-Rolex GMT 16710B- Pepsi Model/4-Rolex 116610 Sub 5-Tudor Black Bay- Blue Bezel- Leather & SS Band. 6-Victorinox Swiss Army -241176 Limited Edition Brown.

10 December 2013, 10:48 AM	#3
iazrollie "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Real Name: Ian Location: NY Watch: All of them Posts: 3,245	When I bought my wife's DJ, the salesperson told my to get the date over the no-date, because it's more classic. Basically, the cyclops say "ROLEX", whereas the no date would "blend in too much". __________________ Rolex, PPs, Breitling

10 December 2013, 11:01 AM	#6
subtona 2025 Pledge Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Real Name: gus Location: East Coast Watch: APK & sometimes Y Posts: 26,741	That may just have been that salesmans sincere opinion....many here simply prefer to have a date. As you also point out you have other pieces with a date, as a one & only watch a sub without a date may have left you wanting? That said, i owned a sub date for many years, but today if i were going to buy a sub, for sure it would be without a date. __________________

10 December 2013, 11:09 AM	#9
david91686 "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: New Jersey Watch: DayDate II Posts: 310	in doing my research ( in my spare time there is nothing i enjoy more than finding rolex articles/videos/information to read) i have come to the conclusion that the ND sub is really awesome and historic!!!! __________________ 1-Rolex DayDate II- Yellow Gold- Arabic Cocentric Face. 2-Rolex Submariner 16610LV-50Th Anniversary Model. 3-Rolex GMT 16710B- Pepsi Model/4-Rolex 116610 Sub 5-Tudor Black Bay- Blue Bezel- Leather & SS Band. 6-Victorinox Swiss Army -241176 Limited Edition Brown.

10 December 2013, 11:58 AM	#13
Jack T "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2013 Real Name: Jack Location: The Triangle Watch: Several Posts: 6,732	Sub owners all love their respective models, each has its attractions and followers. My AD offered my ND as a leftover non ceramic model late last year at a fantastic price. He said not only is it about $1,000 less than the Date model, there's a cult among Rolex owners that can trace its lineage back to Jason and the Argonauts ;) So I got it ! Attached Images __________________ Sub 116613 LN; GMT 116710 LN; Sinn 104R; Exp 214270; GS SBGM221; Omega AT

10 December 2013, 10:27 AM	#2
Wesley Crusher "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2013 Real Name: Wes Location: Holosuite Posts: 6,345	Working on commission? The bigger the sale, the bigger his paycheck.

10 December 2013, 10:51 AM	#4
psv 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: USA & France Posts: 11,077	The SubC ND is more balanced IMO. Sure, a date function is practical, but the ND is a nicer watch IMO.

10 December 2013, 10:56 AM	#5
watchwatcher "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Real Name: Larry Location: Kentucky Watch: Yes Posts: 35,185	To the uninformed, the date is seen as an upgrade...most sales people would fall into this category. Really I think the clean symmetrical lines are best appreciated by the WIS.

10 December 2013, 11:29 AM	#10
Nidal "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: USA Watch: SubC LV Posts: 1,821	Be positive. The date has a little bigger market/demand. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

10 December 2013, 11:54 AM	#12
stmoore Banned Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: US Watch: Gilt Posts: 1,592	He must not be worth a damn. If he were, he'd know that Rolex makes two submariners; the Submariner and the Submariner Date. The Submariner was first. There is no such thing as a "no date" Submariner. I have a 1680 Red Submariner (date), a 16610LV (date), and a 114060 Submariner (which I purchased for its classic looks).

10 December 2013, 12:21 PM	#16
Old Expat Beast TRF Moderator & 2024 SubLV41 Patron Join Date: Jul 2013 Real Name: Adam Location: Far East Watch: CASIO ROYALE Posts: 28,904	It's all part of what folk like to call the "AD Experience". __________________ _______________________

10 December 2013, 02:46 PM	#17
sea-dweller "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Real Name: Dennis Location: Bay Area - 925 Posts: 40,018	I love the date version, I just need this function.

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