Help, is this DayDate Rolex Real or Fake?

[Tam]

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI....MEWN:IT&ih=006

Can anyone tell me if more about the watch>

Year of manufacture?
Would it have sapphire crystal or Acrylic?
What movement should this model have for the year of manufacture?
Where should the white gold parts be?
What letter on the serial number should it have?
any other info is appreciated.

Im a newbie as this is my first rolex and i don't want to get ripped off buying a fake... thanks

Tam

[mattyo]

To me it looks faker than an orange Tan...

[Tam]

what parts on the watch makes you think that it's fake mate?

[Welshwatchman]

Hey Tam.

It would have been a better idea to have asked the question BEFORE you won the auction.

There is no way that watch is an 18ct WG Rolex.

If it was there would be a lot more than $900 AUD worth of scrap value in the watch.

[dienstuhr]

Originally Posted by Tam

what parts on the watch makes you think that it's fake mate?

Pics were tiny and the Buy-it-Now was only $900. Also "no pick up, I don't want you to know where I live." Final straw was the zero-feedback seller.

Hope it works out OK but I wouldn't be optimistic.

w.

[Earl Camembert]

The bracelet doesn't look right, the day is crooked, the date looks small, the seller has no feedback and is new and won't allow local pick up. Someone bought the watch and another one bites the dust.

[Gaijin]

If it was real, it would not have "white gold parts."

The entire watch other than the workings and the dial would be white gold.

[Tam]

i haven't actually paid yet... so it's not too late. The worst thing that could happen is they leave a negative feedback for unpaid item. But i've got a valid reason for not paying if it's a fake.

On closer inspection, the clamp has a "rolex" logo but there is no other numbers stamped on it.

Also, a 6 oclock the index marker seems to be off placed.

Im still waiting on the seller to reply to my earlier message.

Tam

[Welshwatchman]

You'll be able to get any negative feedback easily removed since the seller is zero rated.

[stevemulholland3]

definuitly fake!!!!!!!!!!!do not pay.that is an aftermarket/copy of a rolex bracelet,th dial is all distorted-a daydate is like a work of art and will look as such-not a cheap-o crap-o watch like that one.

[Tam]

thanks guys i will not buy it... i have replied to her/his email saying so, but i have offered a $20 remimbursement for the ebay listing fee. Hope she's okay with that.

much appreciated guys, its so good to have forums like this.

Tam

[robm]

Report it as a fake and it will get pulled and you bid should go away. He's reporting the bracelet is white gold, if it is even real it is stainless and yellow gold. I would guess older daydates came with all yellow gold jubilee bracelets, president bracelets, and tridor bracelets. I don't think it ever came with a two-tone jubilee. Cheap fakes did.

[Earl Camembert]

Originally Posted by Tam

thanks guys i will not buy it... i have replied to her/his email saying so, but i have offered a $20 remimbursement for the ebay listing fee. Hope she's okay with that.

much appreciated guys, its so good to have forums like this.

Tam

I would report her as a fraud and thief. I would report her to Rolex, the local police and the equivalent of the FTC in OZ. I would ask eBay for contact information. A third party may ask for a payment of $200 not to do those things but you shouldn't as that would not be right and extortion. Don't reward her with fees.

FleeBay and crooks must be stopped.

[CoopJr]

The font on "Saturday" is wrong as are the hands.

[Ed Rooney]

Don't pay the $20. If we all report it, it will go away.

Reported

[Earl Camembert]

Originally Posted by Ed Rooney

Don't pay the $20. If we all report it, it will go away.

Reported

I have reoprted so many fakes I have to wonder if FleeBay cares. Form letter from FleeBay.

We're always concerned about possible policy violations on eBay sites and appreciate your report regarding tictocnmore. We thoroughly investigated your report, but at this time there isn't enough evidence to show that a violation has taken place. We can reopen the investigation if we receive additional information.

Out of concern for our members privacy, we can't discuss our investigation with other members. I hope that this assures you that your account history will likewise remain private.

If you'd like to contact us again with additional information or to report other violations, I recommend that you review the information on the Web address below. To learn more about reporting inappropriate trading behavior, go to: (someone that cares, I made that up.)

P.S.

If you believe an item is potentially infringing and it was not removed
by eBay, we encourage you to contact the rights owner and inform them of
the alleged infringement. Rights Owners may request the removal of
listings they feel infringe upon their rights through eBay's Verified
Rights Owner (VeRO) Program.

In other words tell Rolex as we at FleeBay make money off the scams and don't care as long as we get ours.

[applebook]

Originally Posted by dienstuhr

"no pick up, I don't want you to know where I live."

[Tam]

update:

we have mutually agreed to end the transaction through ebay, so no i don't have to pay her anything. But i agreed to pay her the listing fee which is $6.94 i know i don't have to but it's just in good spirit on her part that she does understand my situation.

the end...

Tam

[scottschoe]

Originally Posted by Tam

update:

we have mutually agreed to end the transaction through ebay, so no i don't have to pay her anything. But i agreed to pay her the listing fee which is $6.94 i know i don't have to but it's just in good spirit on her part that she does understand my situation.

the end...

Tam

Going to leave neg feedback?

[Tam]

for me no, i wont leave any but if she does then i will.

[Earl Camembert]

Originally Posted by Tam

for me no, i wont leave any but if she does then i will.

That is why everyone has a high positive feedback. There was a guy leaving negative feedback for people selling 10k gold as 18k. His feedback rating was 50%, negative for negative. Only one in a 1000 sellers will leave a feedback before the buyer does. Back in the dark ages I left a neutral feedback for an item I bought, I promptly got a negative from the hustler that is still on my record today.
It has been said many times and I will say it again buy the seller not the item. FleeBay and PayPan are the Wild West and you better be good with a gun and fast on the draw.

FleeBay is set up to look like a happy place where everyone gets a win/win situation.

[Ed Rooney]

Originally Posted by Tam

update:

we have mutually agreed to end the transaction through ebay, so no i don't have to pay her anything. But i agreed to pay her the listing fee which is $6.94 i know i don't have to but it's just in good spirit on her part that she does understand my situation.

the end...

Tam

I wouldn't pay squat. It's a fake and she can stick it.

[Orchi]

Originally Posted by Tam

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI....MEWN:IT&ih=006

Im a newbie as this is my first rolex and i don't want to get ripped off buying a fake... thanks

Err buddy Tam...welcome to the forum...it's a good thing...you found this forum in time...to say the least 1st.

It won't surprise Orchi even a wee bit...if that watch is a FA-KE(pun intended)...completely.

A REAL deal...should at least look like this...err...where EACH of the screw bolts used anywhere in the clasp n links assembly alone...would be costlier than that entire watch being sold in there...

So do becareful NOT to burn your hard earned money...

[portable75]

Im no expert....FAKE LOOKING and NO FEED BACK, Stay away!

[Orchi]

Err buddy Tam...ONE more thing...since you could be from Australia...n the item is said to be available from there also...why don't you suggest to the seller...that you would pay him or her...DOUBLE the amount of what she/he is asking for that watch(which was A$900 right?)...should the watch be REAL n authenticated by an experienced watchsmith at a convenient location for the BOTH of you to check it out...

Then if n ONLY IF it is a REAL deal...Orchi shall not hesitate to make you an offer...for TRIPLE the amount of money(A$2700) that he/she was originally asking for that watch...

P/S: Always remember the age old Chinese saying..."Cheap things NO good...GOOD things...NO cheap."

[unclesallie]

no, no, no! the whole point is that it's a FAKE rolex that she tried to sell you! Report her! She will do this AGAIN.
best, dan

[monkfish]

Originally Posted by Tam

update:

we have mutually agreed to end the transaction through ebay, so no i don't have to pay her anything. But i agreed to pay her the listing fee which is $6.94 i know i don't have to but it's just in good spirit on her part that she does understand my situation.

the end...

Tam

But why worry about good spirit with someone who isnt worried about it from their end. the seller has tried a con so what do you owe them for not falling for it?