ROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEX

Zarif · 5 January 2014, 08:16 AM

Dear friends,
I have a question that comes poking my brain some days.
Nothing better than to share it with someone who understands.

I own a Rolex Daytona Model 16520, letter w, Zenith movement white dial, with the mark IV dial (subdial with "6" correct). I bought it about 16/17 years ago, brand new, and since then its mine, I used for a long time, but is mint, in excellent condition, all the revisions was made in the Rolex Service Center.
I do not know why some time ago I have been "bothered" with this white dial.

So here's my question: Here in my town has a dealer who has a Rolex Daytona Model 116520 (Rolex 4130 machine, with black dial that was purchased a few 05 years, but never been used, this watch including the stamps for transport and all plastic protectors.

Do you guys think I change my used mint white dial Zenith for the new black dial model, important detail without putting any money!!! Why yes, why no ?

I always heard say that the Zenith movement was better and that over time it would be more expencive than the new ones, is this true? Another thing has some comparative post or link, between these two models of Daytona?

Dear friends Please help me, because I want to take a step that tomorrow will not regret it!
Has anyone had this question or did this change?

Thanks in advance for your attention and ask you to respond as soon as I have to talk with the seller next week. thank you all

jjnd08 · 5 January 2014, 08:21 AM

Can always get a new, yours is special!

nauticajoe · 5 January 2014, 08:34 AM

I'm a fan of the white dial/black subdial look. So, Zenith for me.

tkerrmd · 5 January 2014, 08:47 AM

Will the AD take your watch as a straight up trade??

Zarif · 5 January 2014, 09:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tkerrmd

Will the AD take your watch as a straight up trade??

I think he has a client for my watch ....

b5audia4 · 5 January 2014, 10:03 AM

I would keep yours since you bought it brand new.

You can always get the new in-house movement version later.

tkerrmd · 5 January 2014, 10:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zarif

I think he has a client for my watch ....

We'll you have a special watch but time for a change get the new black face Daytona, my opinion you asked

iazrollie · 5 January 2014, 11:17 AM

I've seen arguments for and against both the zenith and the in-house. Get what you think is best for you.

Survivor · 5 January 2014, 11:41 AM

You'll be sorry...........the only modern SS Daytona worth owning is a white dial Zenith!!!! You'll be bored to tears before too long with the black dial plus, you can't see a thing on it..........Good luck whatever you decide

Andad · 5 January 2014, 11:53 AM

I would keep the Zenith as is.

IMO one of the best Daytonas to own except for a 6263.

srvrf · 5 January 2014, 12:17 PM

What bothered you about the white dial? Maybe it's temporary. Your Daytona sounds like a classic that would be nearly impossible to replace. The only thing I don't like about the el primero movements is the lack of hacking seconds. I agree with the others who say that you can always get a 4130. Maybe a second Daytona is in your future?

Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

kelly56 · 5 January 2014, 12:49 PM

Your Zenith will be collectible for many years to come. Keep it..

luv2fly · 5 January 2014, 01:24 PM

I would keep the white dial Zenith

fullcourt · 5 January 2014, 01:37 PM

Although I like my blk dial Daytona, I'd keep the Zenith.

fmc000 · 5 January 2014, 02:58 PM

The 4130 movement is a real improvement but the subdials positions, the wider hands and markers were not of my taste when I had to take a decision like yours. Zenith was the obvious answer.
Now, if we were talking RG or Pt things would be different...

Sent from my SGS using Tapatalk.

zama · 5 January 2014, 06:08 PM

I have a modern black dial one and love it, but a white face Zenith would be a keeper IMHO

U5512 · 5 January 2014, 06:29 PM

Keep the Zenith Daytona buddy.

Friedl41 · 5 January 2014, 08:13 PM

Dont trade. Zenith Looks amazing.

Sent with iPhone using Tapatalk

nick c · 6 January 2014, 12:34 AM

Zenith all the way

Casey VP-26 · 6 January 2014, 12:52 AM

Zenith

Zarif · 6 January 2014, 01:03 AM

dear friends,
I would like to thank everyone who kindly gave me their impressions and opinion about my doubt.

In some moments I really think the black dial is more beautiful and elegant, especially if it is to use the night at a dinner or a party.
However due to personal history I have with this watch, the fact that he is mine since new, the fact that a watch almost 20years, until today this current and trendy, the fact that I know exactly everything that happened to him , for making all service and repairs to the Rolex Service Center, and especially the help I got from friends, I chose to stay with him.

Here are a few photos, Thanks everyone !

And to celebrate my decision, nothing better than a dose of Brazilian cachaça, also know as "branquinha" means "small White" or "White one". Salute , saúde cheers and Slainte !!

Gaijin · 6 January 2014, 02:14 AM

The white Zenith is cool and a keeper. Will hold and upgrade its value as well. No brainer. I would not trade if I had one. Congratulations on your decision to keep your Baby!

Zarif · 6 January 2014, 02:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jjnd08

Can always get a new, yours is special!

thanks for your help and opinion, see my above decision. best regards

Oryx · 6 January 2014, 03:34 AM

You made the right decision Marco - your white dial zenith is a true classic

kcmo · 6 January 2014, 06:25 AM

I'm sure you won't regret keeping that beauty!

dazzpowder · 6 January 2014, 06:42 AM

Good choice the zenith dial is a beauty, I think you would tire f the black dial, I know I did.

You'll always be able to buy a new Daytona the Zeniths can only get rarer

MATCH1969 · 6 January 2014, 06:49 AM

Good decision

roadie1 · 6 January 2014, 07:05 AM

You made the right choice keeping the one you have!

DeanDB9 · 6 January 2014, 07:12 AM

Good decision!

braty · 6 January 2014, 07:12 AM

Hello,
I have a TT 16523 bought in the 1990's. If you look at the small dial at 6, you will notice that the "6" on the small dial is actually a "9". Is that common? Does it have a Zenith movement?

I had bought this beauty in Geneva almost 20 years ago.

Any insight would be helpful.

If I have posted this in the wrong section I am sorry. I am new :)

View Poll Results: Daytona Zenith white x Daytona 116520 black
Daytona Zenith White	73	60.83%
Daytona 116520 black	47	39.17%
Voters: 120. You may not vote on this poll

5 January 2014, 08:16 AM	#1
Zarif "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Real Name: Marco Location: Brasil Watch: Daytona White Dial Posts: 29	Daytona Zenith x Daytona 116520 Dear friends, I have a question that comes poking my brain some days. Nothing better than to share it with someone who understands. I own a Rolex Daytona Model 16520, letter w, Zenith movement white dial, with the mark IV dial (subdial with "6" correct). I bought it about 16/17 years ago, brand new, and since then its mine, I used for a long time, but is mint, in excellent condition, all the revisions was made in the Rolex Service Center. I do not know why some time ago I have been "bothered" with this white dial. So here's my question: Here in my town has a dealer who has a Rolex Daytona Model 116520 (Rolex 4130 machine, with black dial that was purchased a few 05 years, but never been used, this watch including the stamps for transport and all plastic protectors. Do you guys think I change my used mint white dial Zenith for the new black dial model, important detail without putting any money!!! Why yes, why no ? I always heard say that the Zenith movement was better and that over time it would be more expencive than the new ones, is this true? Another thing has some comparative post or link, between these two models of Daytona? Dear friends Please help me, because I want to take a step that tomorrow will not regret it! Has anyone had this question or did this change? Thanks in advance for your attention and ask you to respond as soon as I have to talk with the seller next week. thank you all

5 January 2014, 10:03 AM	#6
b5audia4 "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: Toronto, ON Watch: 116710BLNR Posts: 63	I would keep yours since you bought it brand new. You can always get the new in-house movement version later. __________________ OYSTERDATE 6694 \| SUBMARINER 16610LV \| GMT-MASTER II 116710BLNR \| DAYTONA 116520BLACK

5 January 2014, 11:17 AM	#8
iazrollie "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Real Name: Ian Location: NY Watch: All of them Posts: 3,245	I've seen arguments for and against both the zenith and the in-house. Get what you think is best for you. __________________ Rolex, PPs, Breitling

5 January 2014, 11:53 AM	#10
Andad 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Real Name: Eddie Location: Australia Watch: A few. Posts: 37,471	I would keep the Zenith as is. IMO one of the best Daytonas to own except for a 6263. __________________ E

5 January 2014, 08:21 AM	#2
jjnd08 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: United States Posts: 8,615	Can always get a new, yours is special!

5 January 2014, 08:34 AM	#3
nauticajoe "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Real Name: Joe Location: PA Posts: 14,774	I'm a fan of the white dial/black subdial look. So, Zenith for me.

5 January 2014, 08:47 AM	#4
tkerrmd "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Real Name: Tom Location: In a race car! Watch: ME RACE PORSCHES Posts: 24,123	Will the AD take your watch as a straight up trade??

5 January 2014, 12:17 PM	#11
srvrf 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Dec 2013 Real Name: Steve Location: Indiana Watch: PP/AP/VC Posts: 2,150	What bothered you about the white dial? Maybe it's temporary. Your Daytona sounds like a classic that would be nearly impossible to replace. The only thing I don't like about the el primero movements is the lack of hacking seconds. I agree with the others who say that you can always get a 4130. Maybe a second Daytona is in your future? Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

5 January 2014, 12:49 PM	#12
kelly56 "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Real Name: Mike Location: Kentucky Watch: 16610 1675 Speedy Posts: 1,057	Your Zenith will be collectible for many years to come. Keep it.. __________________

5 January 2014, 01:24 PM	#13
luv2fly Banned Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Sphere @ 1 AU Posts: 251	I would keep the white dial Zenith

5 January 2014, 02:58 PM	#15
fmc000 Banned Join Date: Sep 2011 Real Name: Fabio Location: Como - Italy Posts: 4,811	The 4130 movement is a real improvement but the subdials positions, the wider hands and markers were not of my taste when I had to take a decision like yours. Zenith was the obvious answer. Now, if we were talking RG or Pt things would be different... Sent from my SGS using Tapatalk.

5 January 2014, 06:08 PM	#16
zama "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Real Name: Craig Location: Sydney Watch: 4 Broken glass Posts: 5,807	I have a modern black dial one and love it, but a white face Zenith would be a keeper IMHO __________________ Day Date 118206, Daytona 116509 & 116505, AP 25859ST Gone but not forgotten and genuinely missed..... Root Beer GMT, Sub, TT Daytona, YG DD Bark, Datejust(2 his & hers), AP RO, PP Aquanaut, Lange 1, Heuer Monza, Piaget Altiplano, GP Chrono, Seamaster, Tudor Sub, Tudor Chrono, Tudor Black Bay Bronze

5 January 2014, 08:13 PM	#18
Friedl41 "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2010 Real Name: SLF41 Location: Spain Watch: Changes Posts: 1,053	Dont trade. Zenith Looks amazing. Sent with iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ Sea Dweller 16600, Submariner 14060m SUB 5513 meter first (1968) Air King 5500 (1980) GMTc NR, Explorer 1 & II 14270 & 16570 PP 5065a

6 January 2014, 12:34 AM	#19
nick c Banned Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Canada Posts: 26,846	Zenith all the way

6 January 2014, 12:52 AM	#20
Casey VP-26 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: America Posts: 2,718	Zenith

6 January 2014, 01:03 AM	#21
Zarif "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Real Name: Marco Location: Brasil Watch: Daytona White Dial Posts: 29	dear friends, I would like to thank everyone who kindly gave me their impressions and opinion about my doubt. In some moments I really think the black dial is more beautiful and elegant, especially if it is to use the night at a dinner or a party. However due to personal history I have with this watch, the fact that he is mine since new, the fact that a watch almost 20years, until today this current and trendy, the fact that I know exactly everything that happened to him , for making all service and repairs to the Rolex Service Center, and especially the help I got from friends, I chose to stay with him. Here are a few photos, Thanks everyone ! And to celebrate my decision, nothing better than a dose of Brazilian cachaça, also know as "branquinha" means "small White" or "White one". Salute , saúde cheers and Slainte !!

6 January 2014, 02:14 AM	#22
Gaijin 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Japan Watch: ing your back. Posts: 16,179	The white Zenith is cool and a keeper. Will hold and upgrade its value as well. No brainer. I would not trade if I had one. Congratulations on your decision to keep your Baby!

6 January 2014, 03:34 AM	#24
Oryx "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: London Posts: 1,894	You made the right decision Marco - your white dial zenith is a true classic

6 January 2014, 06:25 AM	#25
kcmo "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Real Name: Karis Location: USA Posts: 19,377	I'm sure you won't regret keeping that beauty!

6 January 2014, 06:42 AM	#26
dazzpowder "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: London Posts: 298	Good choice the zenith dial is a beauty, I think you would tire f the black dial, I know I did. You'll always be able to buy a new Daytona the Zeniths can only get rarer

6 January 2014, 06:49 AM	#27
MATCH1969 "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: PARIS Watch: Vintage Posts: 2,761	Good decision

6 January 2014, 07:05 AM	#28
roadie1 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Southeast Watch: Divers, GMT Posts: 2,149	You made the right choice keeping the one you have!

6 January 2014, 07:12 AM	#29
DeanDB9 "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Houston, TX Watch: Rolexes Posts: 26	Good decision! __________________ Mine Rolex: 16013 (1977); 16520 (1994); 18038 (2001) Hers Rolex: 179173 (2003)

Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)