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misterhyde · 8 January 2014, 05:48 AM

My Submariner 16613 has gone berserk, but seriously.It's going so fast that I think its going to take off!
Well maybe this is a slight exaggeration, however 15 seconds a minute or 15 minutes an hour means something is seriously wrong.
I might have knocked it this afternoon, but nothing that I've not done before.
What do you think has occured?

My apologies if this subject has already been covered or if I've posted it in the wrong sub forum.

Token74 · 8 January 2014, 05:53 AM

Magnetized?

Roller07 · 8 January 2014, 06:26 AM

That is insanely inaccurate for any watch. Something major is wrong. Just send it to Rolex to get it serviced.

jrbar-on · 8 January 2014, 07:16 AM

Your watch could be magnetized. One simple check (though not 100% accurate) is to hold the watch over a compass and then slowly move it. If the compass needle moves with the watch then it is magnetized and can easily be "degaussed" at any decent jewelers.

Cheers,

Jonathan.

misterhyde · 8 January 2014, 09:53 AM

Thanks for the advice, appreciated. Seems to be running out of steam, but is still gaining at least 5 minutes per hour. What makes it magnetized?

nauticajoe · 8 January 2014, 09:59 AM

I hear smartphones can do the trick. Sounds like it's time to get it regulated. Sorry to hear.

viper9669 · 8 January 2014, 10:24 AM

Do send it in to RSC and all will be ok.

T. Ferguson · 8 January 2014, 11:19 AM

I'd take it to any decent watchmaker first to see if it simply needs to be demagnetized (2 minutes, maybe) before sending off to the RSC on a 6-8 week excursion.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ni_N9d06JD4

ecsub44 · 8 January 2014, 12:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by misterhyde

What makes it magnetized?

Being in the vicinity of a strong magnetic field.

drifter01 · 8 January 2014, 12:44 PM

It could also be debris in the hairspring or a hairspring coil overtlapping another (usually caused by an impact). In any case, any good watchmaker could tell you before sending it off to RSC.

Dave

Andad · 8 January 2014, 02:32 PM

I agree with Dave.
Seems to be too fast even for a magnetised watch.
I'd go with tangled hairspring after a smack.
That would be easy to see with the back off at your local if a demag was unsuccessful.

swils8610 · 8 January 2014, 02:54 PM

I would try demagnetizing first....

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versatile1 · 8 January 2014, 04:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by misterhyde

My Submariner 16613 has gone berserk, but seriously.It's going so fast that I think its going to take off!
Well maybe this is a slight exaggeration, however 15 seconds a minute or 15 minutes an hour means something is seriously wrong.
I might have knocked it this afternoon, but nothing that I've not done before.
What do you think has occured?

My apologies if this subject has already been covered or if I've posted it in the wrong sub forum.

If you have been moving 25% faster then the speed of light, that could have a bearing on it.

jujin · 8 January 2014, 04:26 PM

If the watch truly has become magnetized by exposure to cellular phones; could the parachrom bleu hairspring have prevented this? I know it can happen but I've never actually heard of a watch becoming magnetized from daily use.

T. Ferguson · 8 January 2014, 05:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by misterhyde

My Submariner 16613 has gone berserk...

Not really surprised given your username.

misterhyde · 8 January 2014, 06:52 PM

Always look on the bright side of life, eh T Ferguson!!
I'm away from my trusted dealer for a few months. Can it do more damage if I let it continue running, or should I pull the winder out to stop it going?
Thankfully I've got another to wear so I'm not in any great hurry to get the problem solved, as long as I won't be creating more problems.
I will take it to a local fella to see if it is magnetised, however I doubt it is that. I'm pretty sure that I knocked it.
So, last question, winder in or out?

dysondiver · 8 January 2014, 08:04 PM

guess if you dont need it , and who needs to wear a watch that wont keep time ,,, just let it run down and get it serviced.
so its crown in , and stopped ,,, no point in wearing it or winding it.

DiamondJack · 8 January 2014, 08:52 PM

A few "typical" reasons......

Magnetism

If a watch suddenly begins running extremely fast (20+ seconds per day to hours fast per day) it is usually an indication that the hairspring coils are magnetised, causing the coils to stick together. This shortens the rotation of the balance wheel and increases the beat rate extremely. Correcting this is one of the simplest tasks for a watch maker. The watch need not be opened (only in extreme cases) it is passed through a demagnetizing machine and is ready to go again. Magnetism can also cause a watch to stop or run slow; however, generally the watch will run fast.

Tangled Coils

This could be caused by a small jolt to the movement. Although this is less likely than magnetism it is still a common cause of a watch running extremely fast. The coils are entangled, and this shortens the rotation of the balance wheel and significantly increases the beat rate. The good news is that the fix is fairly simple for a qualified watchmaker to accomplish.

Quick solution to magnetisation.

Another quick way to de-magnetise is to go to a shop (like a book store) where they have this de-magnetised panel on their counter (this panel de-magnetised the magnetic strip as you pay for the merchandise) de-stabilized the strip to prevent activation at the entrance electronic panel......A non de-magnetic strip will of course sound the siren...prevent shoplifting.

Hooper · 8 January 2014, 10:13 PM

Definitely time for a date with RSC!

Cc1966 · 9 January 2014, 01:30 AM

Does indeed sound magnetized. eBay sells demagnetizers on the cheap.

patekguy · 9 January 2014, 03:13 AM

Sorry to hear that.....get it service to make sure

03cobraa · 9 January 2014, 10:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by drifter01

It could also be debris in the hairspring or a hairspring coil overtlapping another (usually caused by an impact). In any case, any good watchmaker could tell you before sending it off to RSC.

Dave

8 January 2014, 05:48 AM	#1
misterhyde "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: united kingdom of Posts: 11	My Sub has gone mad My Submariner 16613 has gone berserk, but seriously.It's going so fast that I think its going to take off! Well maybe this is a slight exaggeration, however 15 seconds a minute or 15 minutes an hour means something is seriously wrong. I might have knocked it this afternoon, but nothing that I've not done before. What do you think has occured? My apologies if this subject has already been covered or if I've posted it in the wrong sub forum.

8 January 2014, 05:53 AM	#2
Token74 "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2012 Real Name: Vince Location: England Watch: Too many! Posts: 5,744	Magnetized? __________________ Time is limited, make every second count. Patek Philippe Nautilus 5990 - AP Royal Oak 15300 - AP Royal Oak 15450 Blue - AP Royal Oak 15450 Silver - AP Royal Oak Offshore 26480 - Royal Oak Offshore 15710 - Rolex Sea Dweller 116600 - Rolex Daytona 116519 - Rolex GMT 126710 BLRO - Omega Speedmaster Reduced - JLC Reverso GMT Moonphase - TAG Microtimer - Dent Pocket Watch - JLC Atmos Phases de lune

8 January 2014, 11:19 AM	#8
T. Ferguson "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Left Coast Posts: 7,025	I'd take it to any decent watchmaker first to see if it simply needs to be demagnetized (2 minutes, maybe) before sending off to the RSC on a 6-8 week excursion. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ni_N9d06JD4 __________________ *Some days it's just not worth chewing through the restraints.*

8 January 2014, 12:44 PM	#10
drifter01 "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2013 Real Name: Dave Location: NC Watch: 5500 Air-King Posts: 633	It could also be debris in the hairspring or a hairspring coil overtlapping another (usually caused by an impact). In any case, any good watchmaker could tell you before sending it off to RSC. Dave Last edited by drifter01; 8 January 2014 at 12:45 PM.. Reason: added comment

8 January 2014, 02:32 PM	#11
Andad 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Real Name: Eddie Location: Australia Watch: A few. Posts: 37,471	I agree with Dave. Seems to be too fast even for a magnetised watch. I'd go with tangled hairspring after a smack. That would be easy to see with the back off at your local if a demag was unsuccessful. __________________ E

8 January 2014, 06:26 AM	#3
Roller07 "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: GMT -5 Watch: HulkPepsiCoke Posts: 2,364	That is insanely inaccurate for any watch. Something major is wrong. Just send it to Rolex to get it serviced.

8 January 2014, 07:16 AM	#4
jrbar-on 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 803	Your watch could be magnetized. One simple check (though not 100% accurate) is to hold the watch over a compass and then slowly move it. If the compass needle moves with the watch then it is magnetized and can easily be "degaussed" at any decent jewelers. Cheers, Jonathan.

8 January 2014, 09:53 AM	#5
misterhyde "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: united kingdom of Posts: 11	Thanks for the advice, appreciated. Seems to be running out of steam, but is still gaining at least 5 minutes per hour. What makes it magnetized?

8 January 2014, 09:59 AM	#6
nauticajoe "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Real Name: Joe Location: PA Posts: 14,774	I hear smartphones can do the trick. Sounds like it's time to get it regulated. Sorry to hear.

8 January 2014, 10:24 AM	#7
viper9669 "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2013 Real Name: Patrick Location: SIN Watch: Rolex Posts: 5,066	Do send it in to RSC and all will be ok.

8 January 2014, 02:54 PM	#12
swils8610 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Real Name: shannon Location: usa Posts: 9,200	I would try demagnetizing first.... Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

8 January 2014, 04:26 PM	#14
jujin "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: NJ Posts: 307	If the watch truly has become magnetized by exposure to cellular phones; could the parachrom bleu hairspring have prevented this? I know it can happen but I've never actually heard of a watch becoming magnetized from daily use.

8 January 2014, 06:52 PM	#16
misterhyde "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: united kingdom of Posts: 11	Always look on the bright side of life, eh T Ferguson!! I'm away from my trusted dealer for a few months. Can it do more damage if I let it continue running, or should I pull the winder out to stop it going? Thankfully I've got another to wear so I'm not in any great hurry to get the problem solved, as long as I won't be creating more problems. I will take it to a local fella to see if it is magnetised, however I doubt it is that. I'm pretty sure that I knocked it. So, last question, winder in or out?

8 January 2014, 08:04 PM	#17
dysondiver "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Real Name: tom Location: northern ireland Watch: my fins Posts: 10,063	guess if you dont need it , and who needs to wear a watch that wont keep time ,,, just let it run down and get it serviced. so its crown in , and stopped ,,, no point in wearing it or winding it.

8 January 2014, 08:52 PM	#18
DiamondJack "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: London Watch: Quite a few Posts: 4,315	A few "typical" reasons...... Magnetism If a watch suddenly begins running extremely fast (20+ seconds per day to hours fast per day) it is usually an indication that the hairspring coils are magnetised, causing the coils to stick together. This shortens the rotation of the balance wheel and increases the beat rate extremely. Correcting this is one of the simplest tasks for a watch maker. The watch need not be opened (only in extreme cases) it is passed through a demagnetizing machine and is ready to go again. Magnetism can also cause a watch to stop or run slow; however, generally the watch will run fast. Tangled Coils This could be caused by a small jolt to the movement. Although this is less likely than magnetism it is still a common cause of a watch running extremely fast. The coils are entangled, and this shortens the rotation of the balance wheel and significantly increases the beat rate. The good news is that the fix is fairly simple for a qualified watchmaker to accomplish. Quick solution to magnetisation. Another quick way to de-magnetise is to go to a shop (like a book store) where they have this de-magnetised panel on their counter (this panel de-magnetised the magnetic strip as you pay for the merchandise) de-stabilized the strip to prevent activation at the entrance electronic panel......A non de-magnetic strip will of course sound the siren...prevent shoplifting.

8 January 2014, 10:13 PM	#19
Hooper "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Real Name: Tony Location: Ontario, Canada Watch: 16610 Posts: 3,290	Definitely time for a date with RSC! __________________ “LIfe’s Journey is not to arrive at the grave safely, in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting “Holy shit, what a ride!” – Hunter S Thompson

9 January 2014, 01:30 AM	#20
Cc1966 "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2013 Real Name: Christopher Location: Georgia, USA Watch: ing the Sea... Posts: 6,713	Does indeed sound magnetized. eBay sells demagnetizers on the cheap. __________________ "I wish to have no Connection with any Ship that does not Sail fast for I intend to go in harm's way." Captain John Paul Jones, 16 November 1778 "*Curmudgeons* " Favorites: 1665 SD, Sub Date, DSSD, Exp II, Sub LV, GMTIIc

9 January 2014, 03:13 AM	#21
patekguy Member Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: Orange County Posts: 119	Sorry to hear that.....get it service to make sure

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