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Old 31 January 2014, 02:46 AM   #1
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an FYI regarding Ceramic

Good morning all!

Just thought I'd drop some information on my fellow AP-enthusiast brethren.

As of late, AP has been using ceramic as a case material more frequently (look at the SIHH...white ceramic Diver, white ceramic 44mm, and a gray 44mm) so I thought it'd be worth asking them how much a replacement case would cost should something happen to it. I got a quote back for $3580 for middle case and then you add labor (in the case of my Orange Diver).



That's almost 3x as much as a case replacement for Forged Carbon (roughly $1100-1300).
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Old 31 January 2014, 02:56 AM   #2
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i saw you mention numbers and some other stuff, but i was too distracted by that picture of the watch.
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Old 31 January 2014, 03:11 AM   #3
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haha. its a wonder what a lil "bokeh" can do to make a watch look good
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Old 31 January 2014, 03:47 AM   #4
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Thanks for sharing, Jason. I remember there's a post mentioning about the cost of SS case middle but can't seem to find it now. Any idea about the cost for it?


Anyway, gorgeous picture buddy!
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Old 31 January 2014, 03:57 AM   #5
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Thanks for sharing, Jason. I remember there's a post mentioning about the cost of SS case middle but can't seem to find it now. Any idea about the cost for it?


Anyway, gorgeous picture buddy!
i know titanium is about 130-1400 so I have to imagine it'd be around 1000 or so?
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Old 31 January 2014, 05:42 AM   #6
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The Ti & FC seem very reasonably priced. I guess ceramic must be a lot more costly in labour terms to work with and machine. Or possibly AP have had to build in a set up or capital cost in their rates for investment in new machinery etc.
I wonder what a gold ROO case costs?
I got a price from APSC in UK for a gold tang buckle, £1115, (1850 USD) wow!!!!!



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Old 31 January 2014, 07:48 AM   #7
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Good info. Stunning watch
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Old 31 January 2014, 09:11 AM   #8
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The Ti & FC seem very reasonably priced. I guess ceramic must be a lot more costly in labour terms to work with and machine. Or possibly AP have had to build in a set up or capital cost in their rates for investment in new machinery etc.
I wonder what a gold ROO case costs?
I got a price from APSC in UK for a gold tang buckle, £1115, (1850 USD) wow!!!!!



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I definitely "enjoy" my watches daily in many situations so beating up a gold case is something I'd be afraid of but would be inevitable if i owned one...god I can't imagine the cost of a case
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Old 31 January 2014, 10:10 AM   #9
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Thanks for the info Jason. I am curious to know, looks aside, in your opinion, which is the more comfortable Diver to wear? FC or Ceramic?
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Old 31 January 2014, 10:23 AM   #10
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damn .. thats expensive. Good to know. Thank you
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Old 31 January 2014, 10:35 AM   #11
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Great info! Going to break the virgin of my ceramic diver today as its Chinese lunar new year! A Happy Chinese New year to anyone celebrating!
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Old 31 January 2014, 11:11 AM   #12
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Thanks for the info Jason. I am curious to know, looks aside, in your opinion, which is the more comfortable Diver to wear? FC or Ceramic?
hard to say...the FC is lighter, so in that sense it's more "comfortable" because you don't notice any weight on your wrist, but aside from that, i'd say both the ceramic and the FC are more comfortable over the steel because of weight alone. my Ceramic still wears heavier than my Rolex GMT2c though, but in a good way. It feels "substantial" on your wrist without being an anchor.

If I had to choose between keeping the FC or the Ceramic...currently I'd say Ceramic over FC...BUT...this is always subject to change. Luckily I don't have to sell either so I will do my best to spread the love equally.
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Old 31 January 2014, 12:26 PM   #13
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I checked on the SS case for a 41mm ROC about a year ago. Was about $2k, I believe..
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Old 31 January 2014, 12:33 PM   #14
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Beautiful! May you never have to shell out those 3.5k!
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Old 31 January 2014, 02:44 PM   #15
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Whoa!!! I'm sticking with FC.
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Old 31 January 2014, 03:08 PM   #16
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hard to say...the FC is lighter, so in that sense it's more "comfortable" because you don't notice any weight on your wrist, but aside from that, i'd say both the ceramic and the FC are more comfortable over the steel because of weight alone. my Ceramic still wears heavier than my Rolex GMT2c though, but in a good way. It feels "substantial" on your wrist without being an anchor.

If I had to choose between keeping the FC or the Ceramic...currently I'd say Ceramic over FC...BUT...this is always subject to change. Luckily I don't have to sell either so I will do my best to spread the love equally.

You are quite right. While purely on looks, I still find the SS Diver the nicest of the three, but the weight is a drag and I generally never wear my SS Diver for more than 2 days consecutively.
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Old 31 January 2014, 05:53 PM   #17
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Hopefully a case change will never be required on a ceramic as it doesn't scratch

I appreciate they can chatter if dropped onto a hard surface, but how often have you dropped a watch of that value onto concrete! I would have no problem with owning a ceramic

Besides, good home insurance should cover damage to that extent
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Old 31 January 2014, 09:11 PM   #18
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Thanks. I was always curious, but never checked.
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Old 31 January 2014, 09:21 PM   #19
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To be clear - this is for the case, not the bezel right?

Does anyone know how much it would be for a ROO?
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Old 31 January 2014, 09:50 PM   #20
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Geez, that's not cheap now, is it?
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Old 1 February 2014, 12:29 PM   #21
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I guess I am in the minority in that it does not sound that bad to me. Of course, my expectations were conditioned by a thread some time ago about replacing a PAM ceramic case where the price was pretty much equal to the full price of the watch.
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Old 1 February 2014, 01:07 PM   #22
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That doesn't sound too bad.
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