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PatekCollector · 17 April 2014, 01:29 AM

Hey guys ...

Some1 (trustworthy)offering me a Brand New AP RB2 RG (No boxes & No papers). The current price (if I;m not wrong) for a NIB is USD 65k and above (plz correct me if I'm wrong).

He is asking USD 54k.

Is it worth?.

BTW, I'm going to wear it and can try to find a box from market and also will try with AP to get me a duplicate papers (not sure I can get them).

Your thoughts is highly appreciated.

Khalid

nishantJ · 17 April 2014, 01:37 AM

Go For It !

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B. Doggy · 17 April 2014, 01:42 AM

For me, B&P is a must. That's just me though.

s14roller · 17 April 2014, 01:56 AM

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Originally Posted by B. Doggy

For me, B&P is a must. That's just me though.

I agree...with something that expensive, IMO, it's going to be a problem moving it without the box and papers.

Take a look at the RB2 Ti...there are people that have had theirs for sale for over a year because it didn't have box/papers.

With the more desirable LEs, I think people are willing to pay for the collector's set.

With the box, keep in mind that it would have to be a RB2 box as just having it in a ROO box isn't the same. As for papers, I don't think AP would be willing to reproduce the original warranty book if it was lost.

sctp39 · 17 April 2014, 02:02 AM

For me, the boxes and papers are not required for a watch that i will enjoy wearing as long as the price is right.

diver2012 · 17 April 2014, 02:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sctp39

For me, the boxes and papers are not required for a watch that i will enjoy wearing as long as the price is right.

+1.

...and going on Khalid's collection/museum I can't seeing this being an 'investment' piece in the grand scheme of things.

el1125 · 17 April 2014, 02:20 AM

i would for that price especially if you are planning on wearing it vs as an investment.

VICI · 17 April 2014, 03:41 AM

See with AP 1st if you can get the duplicate papers and box.

At that price point, it's is more about the collectibility of the item than saving on the price point.

Speed · 17 April 2014, 04:36 AM

What the heck happened to B&P for a piece like that?

texex91 · 17 April 2014, 05:41 AM

If you can get brand new I'd take it!

Hairdude1 · 17 April 2014, 05:51 AM

Go for it. I bought my 15300 w/o papers

111forza · 17 April 2014, 06:51 AM

B & P for me

Hamish · 17 April 2014, 09:27 AM

why???
you already have an awesome collection and you can obviously afford to wait and buy one with B&P when it comes up

srvrf · 17 April 2014, 09:32 AM

It seems like the higher the price the watch, the more desirable the B&P's are. I mean even with intentions of wearing it forever, there's always a chance you will sell it down the road. On the other hand, if AP can give replacements and/or authenticate it, I think that helps the value at least to me

HL65 · 17 April 2014, 09:41 AM

While a very good price my friend I would pay the extra money and buy complete if it were me. I know you are a man of impeccable taste and over time it would bother you like it would me. Best regards,

conkers · 17 April 2014, 09:55 AM

AP will provide for a small fee new papers but they will need the watch to be sent to HQ before they do it - it is usually in a small thin leaflet rather than the usual 100 page booklet. As for the box, finding an RB2 dedicated box will be difficult.

If it's a wearer and not to be sold, however, I don't see the problem as long of course as it is definitely authentic.

ELITEVIDEOGAMES · 17 April 2014, 11:25 AM

With your amazing collection why not pick it up and make it your "beater" you don't need a box or papers to enjoy it!

Soly20 · 17 April 2014, 03:23 PM

I'd rather go with B&P.

kilyung · 18 April 2014, 01:59 AM

For a daily wearer I wouldn't care but at higher price ranges I want a complete set.

breitlingherst · 18 April 2014, 02:24 AM

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Originally Posted by SteelerFan65

While a very good price my friend I would pay the extra money and buy complete if it were me. I know you are a man of impeccable taste and over time it would bother you like it would me. Best regards,

totally agree with you. but every time i wore the watch i would be reminded it didn't come with b/p.

codecow · 18 April 2014, 02:53 AM

I'd skip it, for someone with your amazing collection is it really worth getting a compromised piece?

lipjin · 18 April 2014, 03:14 AM

why not? if it's for your own enjoyment B&P won't matter much (until u want to sell it!)

Colin W · 18 April 2014, 08:44 AM

I would get it & get certified papers from AP especially if its new condition - a great find

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sea-dweller · 18 April 2014, 01:29 PM

I need the B&P...

wm5382 · 18 April 2014, 06:14 PM

for a man at your caliber i would just get a new one complete with everything, including the hang tags...

that way, my heart is at ease knowing the watch i own is a complete set

audwatch · 18 April 2014, 08:12 PM

If buying for investment then I think way to close to rrp without papers... Even if ap does give you papers they will not have the same effect as original papers when selling.

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gummy · 18 April 2014, 09:55 PM

If you can find it new or a complete set...I would spend the $$$...especially with a piece like that.

AK797 · 19 April 2014, 02:34 AM

Altho there are some super frankens of this, as it is in RG the weight will be an instant tell if it is real so papers are not so essential here for authenticity.

GarageBMW · 19 April 2014, 07:53 AM

I am kind of an OCD and I want box and papers for all my watches. I feel that with your nice taste in everything, at one point, it will start to bug as well.

Epwerkz · 19 April 2014, 01:56 PM

for me, Box and paper its a MUST!!

17 April 2014, 01:29 AM	#1
PatekCollector "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Real Name: Khalid Location: Saudi Arabia Posts: 1,328	AP RB2 RG (BNIB) but no boxes or papers ... Hey guys ... Some1 (trustworthy)offering me a Brand New AP RB2 RG (No boxes & No papers). The current price (if I;m not wrong) for a NIB is USD 65k and above (plz correct me if I'm wrong). He is asking USD 54k. Is it worth?. BTW, I'm going to wear it and can try to find a box from market and also will try with AP to get me a duplicate papers (not sure I can get them). Your thoughts is highly appreciated. Khalid __________________ Life is too short, to waste time hating anyone!. Instagram: @PatekCollector

17 April 2014, 01:42 AM	#3
B. Doggy "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Real Name: Bryan Location: Oregon Posts: 7,399	For me, B&P is a must. That's just me though. __________________ Rolex / Panerai / Omega

17 April 2014, 03:41 AM	#8
VICI "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2012 Real Name: Alex Location: Gotham City Watch: IG: Mr_Right_NYC Posts: 5,672	AP RB2 RG (BNIB) but no boxes or papers ... See with AP 1st if you can get the duplicate papers and box. At that price point, it's is more about the collectibility of the item than saving on the price point.

17 April 2014, 09:41 AM	#15
HL65 TRF Moderator & 2024 SubLV41 Patron Join Date: Dec 2007 Real Name: Ken Location: SW Florida Watch: One on my wrist. Posts: 64,207	While a very good price my friend I would pay the extra money and buy complete if it were me. I know you are a man of impeccable taste and over time it would bother you like it would me. Best regards, __________________ *SPEM SUCCESSUS ALIT*

18 April 2014, 03:14 AM	#22
lipjin "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: HK Watch: AP ROC, Nautilus Posts: 1,657	why not? if it's for your own enjoyment B&P won't matter much (until u want to sell it!) __________________ "We must use time wisely and forever realize that the time is always ripe to do right" -Nelson Mandela "It is not our abilities that show what we truly are. It is our choices" -Dumbledore Instagram: horolj_

17 April 2014, 01:37 AM	#2
nishantJ Banned Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: earth Posts: 174	Go For It ! Sent from my iPhone 5S

17 April 2014, 02:02 AM	#5
sctp39 "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Home Posts: 564	For me, the boxes and papers are not required for a watch that i will enjoy wearing as long as the price is right.

17 April 2014, 02:20 AM	#7
el1125 Banned Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: USA Posts: 3,578	i would for that price especially if you are planning on wearing it vs as an investment.

17 April 2014, 04:36 AM	#9
Speed "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: USA Posts: 19,740	What the heck happened to B&P for a piece like that?

17 April 2014, 05:41 AM	#10
texex91 "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: . Posts: 17,898	If you can get brand new I'd take it!

17 April 2014, 05:51 AM	#11
Hairdude1 "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Real Name: Alex Location: Chicago Watch: AP,PP, Rolex Posts: 37,156	Go for it. I bought my 15300 w/o papers

17 April 2014, 06:51 AM	#12
111forza "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2012 Location: uk Posts: 2,682	B & P for me

17 April 2014, 09:27 AM	#13
Hamish "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Earth Watch: 5575 Posts: 1,674	why??? you already have an awesome collection and you can obviously afford to wait and buy one with B&P when it comes up

17 April 2014, 09:32 AM	#14
srvrf 2025 Pledge Member Join Date: Dec 2013 Real Name: Steve Location: Indiana Watch: PP/AP/VC Posts: 2,176	It seems like the higher the price the watch, the more desirable the B&P's are. I mean even with intentions of wearing it forever, there's always a chance you will sell it down the road. On the other hand, if AP can give replacements and/or authenticate it, I think that helps the value at least to me

17 April 2014, 09:55 AM	#16
conkers "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Real Name: Roger Location: Hong Kong Watch: Too many! Posts: 6,132	AP will provide for a small fee new papers but they will need the watch to be sent to HQ before they do it - it is usually in a small thin leaflet rather than the usual 100 page booklet. As for the box, finding an RB2 dedicated box will be difficult. If it's a wearer and not to be sold, however, I don't see the problem as long of course as it is definitely authentic.

17 April 2014, 11:25 AM	#17
ELITEVIDEOGAMES "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Real Name: Tom Location: Long Island NY Watch: me sell games Posts: 1,898	With your amazing collection why not pick it up and make it your "beater" you don't need a box or papers to enjoy it!

17 April 2014, 03:23 PM	#18
Soly20 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: May 2012 Real Name: Soly Location: UK/US Watch: Rolex, AP, PP Posts: 3,089	I'd rather go with B&P.

18 April 2014, 01:59 AM	#19
kilyung "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Cave Watch: Sundial Posts: 33,946	For a daily wearer I wouldn't care but at higher price ranges I want a complete set.

18 April 2014, 02:53 AM	#21
codecow 2025 Pledge Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Real Name: Louis Location: Bay Area, CA Watch: Le Mans Posts: 5,458	I'd skip it, for someone with your amazing collection is it really worth getting a compromised piece?

18 April 2014, 08:44 AM	#23
Colin W "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2013 Location: UK Posts: 1,314	I would get it & get certified papers from AP especially if its new condition - a great find Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk __________________

18 April 2014, 01:29 PM	#24
sea-dweller "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Real Name: Dennis Location: Bay Area - 925 Posts: 40,018	I need the B&P...

18 April 2014, 06:14 PM	#25
wm5382 "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Indonesia Posts: 304	for a man at your caliber i would just get a new one complete with everything, including the hang tags... that way, my heart is at ease knowing the watch i own is a complete set Last edited by wm5382; 18 April 2014 at 06:16 PM.. Reason: typo

18 April 2014, 08:12 PM	#26
audwatch "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Australia Posts: 26	If buying for investment then I think way to close to rrp without papers... Even if ap does give you papers they will not have the same effect as original papers when selling. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

18 April 2014, 09:55 PM	#27
gummy 2025 Pledge Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Real Name: Thomas Location: Midwest USA Watch: AP PP Rolex Posts: 3,353	If you can find it new or a complete set...I would spend the $$$...especially with a piece like that.

19 April 2014, 02:34 AM	#28
AK797 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Real Name: Neil Location: UK Watch: ing ships roll in Posts: 59,369	Altho there are some super frankens of this, as it is in RG the weight will be an instant tell if it is real so papers are not so essential here for authenticity.

19 April 2014, 07:53 AM	#29
GarageBMW "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Real Name: Third Degree Location: Glenfinnan Watch: the step Posts: 1,901	I am kind of an OCD and I want box and papers for all my watches. I feel that with your nice taste in everything, at one point, it will start to bug as well.

19 April 2014, 01:56 PM	#30
Epwerkz "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Real Name: Felix Location: Jakarta Posts: 314	for me, Box and paper its a MUST!!

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