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bakajanai · 23 May 2014, 02:41 PM

Hi everyone,

I am in the middle of deciding between an Audemars Piguet Royal Oak Self-Winding 15400 (APRO) and a Panerai Ceramica GMT Tuttonero PAM 438. They are quite different but each watch has its own beauty. Since lots of members on the forum have such a good taste, may I ask which one would you choose for your next watch? Any advices, thoughts would be highly appreciated.

AP 15400
audemars-piguet-royal-oak-jumbo-watch-thumb-570x777-14373.jpg

PAM black out version
PAM00438-650-pixel-thumb-450x599-13289.jpg

My current watches:
Untitled.jpg

CWIN · 23 May 2014, 06:53 PM

Two very different watches IMO. Since you already have an AP I'm going to say PAM. And just FYI you have a Jumbo pictured, not a 15400

Cru Jones · 23 May 2014, 07:36 PM

i'm with chris in terms of giving PAM a spin this time out. it would shake things up a bit in your collection.

however, if you want the ceramic with arabics, i would suggest the 441 over the 438. why? because, for me, one of the great things about panerai is the endless strap options. therefore, i wouldn't want to pay extra for the ceramic bracelet.

good luck with the choice.

and, to add, the 508, 335 and 317 are great ceramic Luminor options, too.

kilyung · 23 May 2014, 11:18 PM

Ap

el1125 · 24 May 2014, 12:12 AM

Enough said

s14roller · 24 May 2014, 12:15 AM

The PAM seems to change up the collection a bit but I'm not really that into that watch...so between the two, still 15400.

nick c · 24 May 2014, 01:25 AM

Ap

GB-man · 24 May 2014, 01:54 AM

Normally I would say AP but I tried the 441 on at the boutique a few months back and I nearly bought it lol

RoyalOac · 24 May 2014, 01:54 AM

No contest. AP

p_mcgee · 24 May 2014, 02:06 AM

I'd get the PAM (also prefer the strap)-- the AP overlaps too much with the one you already have.

HL65 · 24 May 2014, 06:35 AM

AP all day long and yes the 15202 Jumbo in your post! Cheers,

kilyung · 24 May 2014, 07:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SteelerFan65

AP all day long and yes the 15202 Jumbo in your post! Cheers,

I was wondering if anyone was going to say anything.

Quotron · 24 May 2014, 07:13 AM

I'd take the AP. If you're looking for a GMT, why not get the RO Dual Time?

improviz · 24 May 2014, 11:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kilyung

I was wondering if anyone was going to say anything.

CWIN did already, in post #2.

bakajanai · 24 May 2014, 12:05 PM

Thank you all for your kind inputs, hope that I could get both of them ... >< (sorry for the wrong picture, it seems like I could not be able to edit the picture in the above post)

Correction of the AP 15400:
15400st.oo.1220st.02_main.jpg

McLovin · 24 May 2014, 12:11 PM

Ap

iLLGT2 · 24 May 2014, 01:26 PM

Normally i'd say AP however i'm going with panerai, since you have a similar AP already !

Panerais are special, tons of character, strap changes, etc etc

I'm a big AP collector and equally so with panerai :)

Baco Noir · 24 May 2014, 02:02 PM

I'd never buy a full DLC. The first coating scratch would drive me nuts.

GermanyMatt · 24 May 2014, 07:48 PM

Did you try on the PAM? It is going to feel a lot different than anything else in your current collection.

That AP is a classic though, and would be my first choice.

manilenyo · 25 May 2014, 03:39 AM

Ap

improviz · 25 May 2014, 03:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GermanyMatt

Did you try on the PAM? It is going to feel a lot different than anything else in your current collection.

That AP is a classic though, and would be my first choice.

Yeah, that's a pretty big shift. I personally prefer the white steel PAMs, uncomplicated models, to me they just don't look as good with the busier dials complications add. I'd think that a bit more variety on the Rolex front would be good as well, they're going to be very similar to the casual observer.

vman · 25 May 2014, 08:53 AM

Ap.

AK797 · 25 May 2014, 09:11 AM

How about an AP ROC as you have a RO?

mfer · 25 May 2014, 11:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Baco Noir

I'd never buy a full DLC. The first coating scratch would drive me nuts.

It's ceramic.

locutus49 · 25 May 2014, 11:27 AM

Ap.

Baco Noir · 25 May 2014, 11:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mfer

It's ceramic.

Now that's a different story. Didn't know Panerai was making full ceramic cases now.

SMD · 25 May 2014, 11:46 AM

You have to try it on. I thought I would love it but the bracelet was meh at best. They had a lot of problems with the development of the bracelet, which is why there was such a long delay between the announcement and the release of this watch.

23 May 2014, 02:41 PM	#1
bakajanai "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: California Posts: 11	AP RO 15400 or Panerai Ceramica GMT Tuttonero PAM 438 Hi everyone, I am in the middle of deciding between an Audemars Piguet Royal Oak Self-Winding 15400 (APRO) and a Panerai Ceramica GMT Tuttonero PAM 438. They are quite different but each watch has its own beauty. Since lots of members on the forum have such a good taste, may I ask which one would you choose for your next watch? Any advices, thoughts would be highly appreciated. AP 15400 audemars-piguet-royal-oak-jumbo-watch-thumb-570x777-14373.jpg PAM black out version PAM00438-650-pixel-thumb-450x599-13289.jpg My current watches: Untitled.jpg

24 May 2014, 12:12 AM	#5
el1125 Banned Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: USA Posts: 3,578	Ap Enough said

24 May 2014, 01:54 AM	#8
GB-man 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: USA Watch: addiction issues Posts: 37,327	Normally I would say AP but I tried the 441 on at the boutique a few months back and I nearly bought it lol __________________

24 May 2014, 06:35 AM	#11
HL65 TRF Moderator & 2024 SubLV41 Patron Join Date: Dec 2007 Real Name: Ken Location: SW Florida Watch: One on my wrist. Posts: 63,991	AP all day long and yes the 15202 Jumbo in your post! Cheers, __________________ *SPEM SUCCESSUS ALIT*

24 May 2014, 02:02 PM	#18
Baco Noir "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Real Name: Roger Location: Colorado Watch: this ya'll Posts: 4,962	I'd never buy a full DLC. The first coating scratch would drive me nuts. __________________ Current Collection: Rolex 126619LB, 116710BLNR, and 216570 polar Explorer II; Omega Apollo 8 Speedmaster and Planet Ocean 42; Tudor BB Bronze Bucherer Blue Edition; Nomos Neomatik 42; Breitling Aerospace, Avenger Blackbird, & SuperOcean 44; Doxa 300 Pro Carbon; Stowa Limette; Laco Napa Flieger; Mickey Mouse Timex Electric; and dare I say it...an Apple Watch too

23 May 2014, 06:53 PM	#2
CWIN "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Real Name: Chris Location: San Diego Watch: Patek, AP, Rolex Posts: 4,449	Two very different watches IMO. Since you already have an AP I'm going to say PAM. And just FYI you have a Jumbo pictured, not a 15400 __________________ *Instagram* @cwin

23 May 2014, 07:36 PM	#3
Cru Jones 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Paris, France Posts: 35,255	i'm with chris in terms of giving PAM a spin this time out. it would shake things up a bit in your collection. however, if you want the ceramic with arabics, i would suggest the 441 over the 438. why? because, for me, one of the great things about panerai is the endless strap options. therefore, i wouldn't want to pay extra for the ceramic bracelet. good luck with the choice. and, to add, the 508, 335 and 317 are great ceramic Luminor options, too.

23 May 2014, 11:18 PM	#4
kilyung 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Cave Watch: Sundial Posts: 33,940	Ap

24 May 2014, 12:15 AM	#6
s14roller "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: US Posts: 3,257	The PAM seems to change up the collection a bit but I'm not really that into that watch...so between the two, still 15400.

24 May 2014, 01:25 AM	#7
nick c Banned Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Canada Posts: 26,846	Ap

24 May 2014, 01:54 AM	#9
RoyalOac "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: NY Posts: 458	No contest. AP

24 May 2014, 02:06 AM	#10
p_mcgee "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Chicago Posts: 2,150	I'd get the PAM (also prefer the strap)-- the AP overlaps too much with the one you already have.

24 May 2014, 07:13 AM	#13
Quotron "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: ... Posts: 222	I'd take the AP. If you're looking for a GMT, why not get the RO Dual Time?

24 May 2014, 12:05 PM	#15
bakajanai "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: California Posts: 11	Thank you all for your kind inputs, hope that I could get both of them ... >< (sorry for the wrong picture, it seems like I could not be able to edit the picture in the above post) Correction of the AP 15400: 15400st.oo.1220st.02_main.jpg

24 May 2014, 12:11 PM	#16
McLovin "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: USA Watch: SubC Posts: 1,014	Ap

24 May 2014, 01:26 PM	#17
iLLGT2 "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Real Name: Martin Location: NY And FLA Watch: AP ROO Blue Scuba Posts: 2,695	Normally i'd say AP however i'm going with panerai, since you have a similar AP already ! Panerais are special, tons of character, strap changes, etc etc I'm a big AP collector and equally so with panerai :)

24 May 2014, 07:48 PM	#19
GermanyMatt "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2012 Real Name: Matt Location: Northern VA Watch: 126711, 126610 Posts: 1,803	Did you try on the PAM? It is going to feel a lot different than anything else in your current collection. That AP is a classic though, and would be my first choice.

25 May 2014, 03:39 AM	#20
manilenyo "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: manila Posts: 2,541	Ap

25 May 2014, 08:53 AM	#22
vman 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Real Name: Capt Swerve Location: North Carolina Watch: less TV Posts: 2,230	Ap.

25 May 2014, 09:11 AM	#23
AK797 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Real Name: Neil Location: UK Watch: ing ships roll in Posts: 59,368	How about an AP ROC as you have a RO?

25 May 2014, 11:27 AM	#25
locutus49 Banned Join Date: May 2014 Real Name: John Location: La Jolla, CA Watch: Platona Posts: 12,194	Ap.

25 May 2014, 11:46 AM	#27
SMD "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Real Name: SMD Location: LGA/EWR/ORD Watch: AP/PP Posts: 3,701	You have to try it on. I thought I would love it but the bracelet was meh at best. They had a lot of problems with the development of the bracelet, which is why there was such a long delay between the announcement and the release of this watch.

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