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Old 20 June 2014, 09:23 PM   #1
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New Datejust - anyone encountered this?

Hi All

As you may be aware, I have just picked up a DJ/Arabic dial to go with my ceramic Sub...I have had the watch approx 3 weeks, put it on today - set the time/date then wound it up 20-30 times as suggested in the manual (I did not wear at weekend, so it had run down), screwed in crown then went to work.

When I got to the train station (10 min walk) and looked at my watch - it had stopped...which was odd as I had wound it first. So, I took watch off and gently moved it, at which point it started again but then stopped - so I unscrewed crown, gave it a couple of turns to wind up and pushed crown in again, still no running, so pulled out the crown wound again approx another 10-15 times, re-set time and date (as I had changed the date by mistake) pushed the crown back in and it started working again - and has been fine since...although the winding does not appear to be as smooth as it did...or that could just be my imagination here...

I am going to keep eye on this and see what happens when it runs down again, it might be that it was simply not enough to wind it 20-30times - maybe it needed a full 40 - as I got a lift to the station this morning, so I did not had much wrist movement to wind it up...

I have never had this with my Sub or other autos, although one of my Seiko divers did something similar once, and that was down to not enough movement to power up - so has anyone else encountered this before?

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Old 20 June 2014, 09:49 PM   #2
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Is it possible that you believe that you wound it up 20-30 times after putting it on - but forgot to do the winding due to a distraction or something?

Otherwise, you may have the early warning of a pending problem...
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Old 20 June 2014, 09:58 PM   #3
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Is it possible that you believe that you wound it up 20-30 times after putting it on - but forgot to do the winding due to a distraction or something?

Otherwise, you may have the early warning of a pending problem...

Def sure that I wound it up...but yes, I might have been distracted - was in a hurry this morning - I will monitor it - let it wind down and see what happens. I don't work that far from Rolex in Knightsbridge - so will take there if does it again..
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Old 20 June 2014, 10:41 PM   #4
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Just to help, be sure you wound it 25 or more turns clockwise (looking at crown from 3 o'clock side of case). Winding counterclockwise will do nothing. Possible ?
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Old 20 June 2014, 10:43 PM   #5
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Just to help, be sure you wound it 25 or more turns clockwise (looking at crown from 3 o'clock side of case). Winding counterclockwise will do nothing. Possible ?
Good point. Whenever I wind mine, I go back and forth. You can hear a distinct difference when winding clockwise vs. counter clockwise
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Old 20 June 2014, 11:02 PM   #6
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As long as it is working now, that's what matters.
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Old 21 June 2014, 12:19 AM   #7
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Cheers guys

Yep, def wound one way only - I can only presume that it must have needed a full wind and that the 20 or so that I gave it were just not enough to get it going - despite then wearing on wrist for 5 mins in car..and its running fine at present...

Just a little odd...so will check again later at the weekend after removing and see what happens when wound down totally again..
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Old 21 June 2014, 01:02 AM   #8
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I always give 40+ turns, you can't over wind it so may as well wind away
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Old 21 June 2014, 01:29 AM   #9
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Cheers guys

Yep, def wound one way only - I can only presume that it must have needed a full wind and that the 20 or so that I gave it were just not enough to get it going - despite then wearing on wrist for 5 mins in car..and its running fine at present...

Just a little odd...so will check again later at the weekend after removing and see what happens when wound down totally again..
A full manual wind is 40 full 360* clockwise only,20 winds will not fully wind but will be enough to get movement started.
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Old 21 June 2014, 01:58 AM   #10
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If it has stopped first rotate it like a brandy glass back and forth to get the movement running. Check the second hand. Repeat if necessary.
Then wind it 40 times both ways.
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Old 21 June 2014, 02:34 AM   #11
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Yep, I think your right here - it might just be the number of winds that I gave the watch

I will check it again over the weekend - its been working with no issues today...

Thanks for all the advice guys :-)
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Old 21 June 2014, 04:34 AM   #12
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My GMT is with Rikki because it stopped on the winder, a couple of days later another watch died on the same winder and I thought what the hell. The switch for that side of the winder was in the off position. Oops.
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Old 21 June 2014, 06:37 AM   #13
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My GMT is with Rikki because it stopped on the winder, a couple of days later another watch died on the same winder and I thought what the hell. The switch for that side of the winder was in the off position. Oops.
I've done that, but was afraid to admit it.
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Old 21 June 2014, 01:15 PM   #14
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Remember that in many cases a watch left on a winder for an extended period will still eventually stop. This is because some winder preset cycles may not be enough to completely replenish the daily power needs. Rolex should be set for 650 turns per day. If your winder only gives say 500 tpd, the winder may only gives it 20 hours a day of run time back. It could lose say 4 hours of run time reserve per day. After 10 days, it stops.
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Did you set the date between 10PM and 2PM?
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I always give 40+ turns, you can't over wind it so may as well wind away
That's my routine as well.

Don't panic until you give the watch 40+ turns. That should be enough to keep it going for at least a day and a half, even if you don't wear it.

It's always a good idea to wind the watch 40 turns or more once per week, even if you're wearing it all day every day.
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Old 21 June 2014, 06:22 PM   #17
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Thanks guys Yep, will wind up to 40 winds in future..and I don't have a winder machine - so might be an idea for me to pick one up

So far watch has been fine - so I am assuming that I was the problem but will let it wind down and then see what happens :-)

I wear mechanical/auto watches all the time - so should be used to winding watches up

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