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jkater1 · 30 June 2014, 09:50 AM

Hello, looking for some opinions, going to get my first Rolex, a SubC, and wondering what people's thoughts are on buying from here vs AD. An AD told me he would take care of the sales tax and would warranty it for 4 years. Is the extra warranty worth the extra $1k?

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Trouble15 · 30 June 2014, 09:55 AM

I would personally still go with TRF. You already mentioned sales tax, but you should be able to get below MSRP on a BNIB on TRF, not sure where you're located or if your AD is giving you a discount on top taking care of the sales tax? I'd assume no since you mentioned $1k more. Ultimately up to you if you're comfortable buying on TRF. I'd be comfortable buying from DavidSW and saving $1k.

iazrollie · 30 June 2014, 09:57 AM

That's your decision. I'm willing to pay $500 more for the AD experience, the instant gratification and the goodwill it creates to get subsequent discounts or access to harder-to-find pieces. $1000 is a lot though. Up to you.

mjm800 · 30 June 2014, 10:05 AM

It depends on what you want and if saving money is worth the wait. For me, when I want something I want it now. I would rather buy from an AD and have it today over saving some money to have it in a day or two.

For me the money saved is not worth it unless it is a substantial savings. If buying a brand new watch I'll go to the AD, if buying an older used watch TRF has the best deals by far.

bmwsubmariner · 30 June 2014, 10:09 AM

Trf. David sw.

dstopsie · 30 June 2014, 10:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bmwsubmariner

Trf. David sw.

This.

Beef · 30 June 2014, 10:15 AM

Bought several from both. I have no regrets either way. My motivation for buying from each was different and specific. ADs don't sell vintage, which comprises a lot of my collection. And when there are hot releases, such as the GMT IIC and Milgauss GV ( now the SD 4000 C) that take a while to filter down to ADs, you might as well get on the AD's "list" because the prices on here are equal to or higher than list initially. Good luck !

Sublover2166 · 30 June 2014, 10:27 AM

TRF trusted seller jizeal gets my vote. He gave me a great deal on a BNIB Hulk.

jkater1 · 30 June 2014, 10:30 AM

Thanks for the comments. No additional discount besides the sales tax, so it would be $8550. From my research BNIB 116610LN's are going for $7500-7600 on here. I don't really have a problem waiting, it's the extra warranty that's got my wheels spinning.

I doubt I will be trying to get any hard to get models in the future.

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thomaspp · 30 June 2014, 10:31 AM

Probably not

Urosfan · 30 June 2014, 10:54 AM

It's a toss up, I went with AD on my first and all my pieces I have now, I was fortunate my friend is a buddy with my AD so I lucked out good luck with your choice

Capvvc · 30 June 2014, 11:09 AM

I doubt you will need the extra warranty. It is possible, but you are buying a rolex. TRF!

zen watch · 30 June 2014, 11:17 AM

First Rolex - AD; succeeding ones -TRF.

tkerrmd · 30 June 2014, 11:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by iazrollie

That's your decision. I'm willing to pay $500 more for the AD experience, the instant gratification and the goodwill it creates to get subsequent discounts or access to harder-to-find pieces. $1000 is a lot though. Up to you.

I agree with this especially if it's going to be your only Rolex.

If money is more of a concern, the watches from gray market dealers are certainly cheaper.

Good luck

KINGROLESAR · 30 June 2014, 11:25 AM

I thought TRF was an AD and davidSW was its top sales associate.

Roll the Lex · 30 June 2014, 11:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jkater1

Hello, looking for some opinions, going to get my first Rolex, a SubC, and wondering what people's thoughts are on buying from here vs AD. An AD told me he would take care of the sales tax and would warranty it for 4 years. Is the extra warranty worth the extra $1k?

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So the deal is $1k now to extend the warranty by 2yrs?
Well let me ask you this- do you get the extended warranty on cars and are happy with it? If so, maybe this is worth it for you.

I've been very happy buying from an AD first and then buying here. But then again, my first Rolex the price difference was a few hundred, so I went with AD. The second time around, the price difference was $2000. So at that point I bought it off a trusted seller.

incontrol · 30 June 2014, 12:02 PM

I get good prices from my AD. The problem is sales tax. If you buy from a trusted seller on TRF that is out of state you will save that money. I buy from both so that if I want something a little harder to get I have a relationship with the seller.

Scotswierdo · 30 June 2014, 12:06 PM

Where do trusted sellers get their new pieces from...

mjm800 · 30 June 2014, 12:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scotswierdo

Where do trusted sellers get their new pieces from...

If we knew that we would all be selling on TRF!

There are theories but trusted sellers aren't talking.

Scotswierdo · 30 June 2014, 12:09 PM

....i guess you are right!

Old Expat Beast · 30 June 2014, 12:17 PM

It all depends on your financial situation. If the difference in price for you is like the difference between getting a bottle of average or premium whisky for most people, then go AD. If it's a major financial outlay, go Trusted Seller.

The warranty on a Rolex is unlikely to be used in two years or four years.

joe100 · 30 June 2014, 12:49 PM

TRF for the win!

AndyK · 30 June 2014, 01:03 PM

TRF

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southtexas · 30 June 2014, 01:32 PM

I'd recommend a trusted seller here on TRF. Do YOUR RESEARCH FIRST.

z32turbo · 30 June 2014, 01:49 PM

Personal preference

Not a wrong decision either way. Plenty of pros/cons on both sides.

HogwldFLTR · 30 June 2014, 02:22 PM

Two year warranty when purchased with discretion here is plenty of time for early life failures to occur. The extra two years won't be necessary nor will it cover a needed service at the five to seven year mark. I'd say buy through TRF with care.

Perrinyanna · 30 June 2014, 03:16 PM

Regardless of brand, and the price difference, I always buy from an AD...Unless i am buying a discontinued or vintage watch... I just try to bargain to get the best price. I feel more confident that i am really getting a "brand new" watch, with no possiblity that it has been worn "in transit to avoid customs", "worn for a week with a different strap", etc..Warranty card starts when you buy it..but thats just me...but i dont buy at boutiques because they dont give any discounts..

Hairdude1 · 30 June 2014, 03:24 PM

I would buy from a trusted seller

jimmypark54 · 30 June 2014, 03:33 PM

trf is always the best place. good luck

sierra11b · 30 June 2014, 04:13 PM

TRF.

Although without ADs TRF sellers wouldn't exist... No matter, here's plenty of non enthusiasts willing to keep them alive.

If you want to pay sales tax and 10-15% more on top of tax that's on you... If you aren't near your bank to wire money for a watch you'll likely get in 24hrs anyway, then you either have too much money to care, or have serious patience and laziness issues.

I can understand a couple hundred for the AD experience, or even sitting down with yor SO to commemerate an anniversary or engagement with a pair, but we're likely talking a thousand or much, much more. There's nothing an AD can do that a TRF seller cannot. In fact, my three local ADs have never heard of the new Sea Dweller or Milgauss.

30 June 2014, 09:50 AM	#1
jkater1 "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2014 Real Name: Jared Location: The Mitten Posts: 46	Buy from AD or TRF? Hello, looking for some opinions, going to get my first Rolex, a SubC, and wondering what people's thoughts are on buying from here vs AD. An AD told me he would take care of the sales tax and would warranty it for 4 years. Is the extra warranty worth the extra $1k? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

30 June 2014, 09:57 AM	#3
iazrollie "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Real Name: Ian Location: NY Watch: All of them Posts: 3,245	That's your decision. I'm willing to pay $500 more for the AD experience, the instant gratification and the goodwill it creates to get subsequent discounts or access to harder-to-find pieces. $1000 is a lot though. Up to you. __________________ Rolex, PPs, Breitling

30 June 2014, 10:05 AM	#4
mjm800 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: USA Posts: 1,950	It depends on what you want and if saving money is worth the wait. For me, when I want something I want it now. I would rather buy from an AD and have it today over saving some money to have it in a day or two. For me the money saved is not worth it unless it is a substantial savings. If buying a brand new watch I'll go to the AD, if buying an older used watch TRF has the best deals by far. __________________

30 June 2014, 10:15 AM	#7
Beef "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: USA Posts: 1,824	Bought several from both. I have no regrets either way. My motivation for buying from each was different and specific. ADs don't sell vintage, which comprises a lot of my collection. And when there are hot releases, such as the GMT IIC and Milgauss GV ( now the SD 4000 C) that take a while to filter down to ADs, you might as well get on the AD's "list" because the prices on here are equal to or higher than list initially. Good luck ! __________________ "An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last." "So you have enemies. Good. You must have stood up for something, sometime in your life." Winston Churchill

30 June 2014, 10:31 AM	#10
thomaspp "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: N/A Posts: 11,137	Probably not __________________ Instagram: @watches_anonymous

30 June 2014, 09:55 AM	#2
Trouble15 "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Real Name: Steve Location: USA Watch: A few Posts: 8,896	I would personally still go with TRF. You already mentioned sales tax, but you should be able to get below MSRP on a BNIB on TRF, not sure where you're located or if your AD is giving you a discount on top taking care of the sales tax? I'd assume no since you mentioned $1k more. Ultimately up to you if you're comfortable buying on TRF. I'd be comfortable buying from DavidSW and saving $1k.

30 June 2014, 10:09 AM	#5
bmwsubmariner "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: US Posts: 426	Trf. David sw.

30 June 2014, 10:27 AM	#8
Sublover2166 Banned Join Date: Mar 2012 Real Name: John Location: Manassas,Virginia Watch: Ol'Bluesy & Hulk Posts: 2,871	TRF trusted seller jizeal gets my vote. He gave me a great deal on a BNIB Hulk.

30 June 2014, 10:30 AM	#9
jkater1 "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2014 Real Name: Jared Location: The Mitten Posts: 46	Thanks for the comments. No additional discount besides the sales tax, so it would be $8550. From my research BNIB 116610LN's are going for $7500-7600 on here. I don't really have a problem waiting, it's the extra warranty that's got my wheels spinning. I doubt I will be trying to get any hard to get models in the future. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

30 June 2014, 10:54 AM	#11
Urosfan "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: NYC Watch: Me now Posts: 19,439	It's a toss up, I went with AD on my first and all my pieces I have now, I was fortunate my friend is a buddy with my AD so I lucked out good luck with your choice

30 June 2014, 11:09 AM	#12
Capvvc "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2012 Real Name: Chris Location: DC Metro Watch: Sky D and family Posts: 243	I doubt you will need the extra warranty. It is possible, but you are buying a rolex. TRF!

30 June 2014, 11:17 AM	#13
zen watch "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: SEA Watch: Subc Posts: 147	First Rolex - AD; succeeding ones -TRF.

30 June 2014, 11:25 AM	#15
KINGROLESAR "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2013 Real Name: Drew Location: PHILADELPHIA Watch: CROWN MARKED Posts: 2,158	I thought TRF was an AD and davidSW was its top sales associate. __________________ "Raise your glass high, those here for those not with but a sigh; for enjoy each day, it comes but once, then quickly to the past as it must" - King Rolesar 03

30 June 2014, 12:02 PM	#17
incontrol "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Real Name: Kevin Location: Somewhere in PA Watch: All of them... Posts: 10,355	I get good prices from my AD. The problem is sales tax. If you buy from a trusted seller on TRF that is out of state you will save that money. I buy from both so that if I want something a little harder to get I have a relationship with the seller. __________________ Patek Philippe Rolex

30 June 2014, 12:06 PM	#18
Scotswierdo Banned Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Florida Posts: 114	Where do trusted sellers get their new pieces from...

30 June 2014, 12:09 PM	#20
Scotswierdo Banned Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Florida Posts: 114	....i guess you are right!

30 June 2014, 12:17 PM	#21
Old Expat Beast TRF Moderator & 2025 Titanium Yacht-Master Patron Join Date: Jul 2013 Real Name: Adam Location: Far East Watch: MQ-24-7B2LLJF Posts: 28,926	It all depends on your financial situation. If the difference in price for you is like the difference between getting a bottle of average or premium whisky for most people, then go AD. If it's a major financial outlay, go Trusted Seller. The warranty on a Rolex is unlikely to be used in two years or four years.

30 June 2014, 12:49 PM	#22
joe100 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Real Name: Joe Location: New Mexico Watch: Explorer Posts: 12,840	TRF for the win! __________________ It's Espresso, not Expresso. Coffee is not a train in Italy. -TRF Member 6982-

30 June 2014, 01:03 PM	#23
AndyK "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Chicago Watch: 216570 Posts: 878	TRF Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk __________________ www.calibre1040.com - www.instagram.com/calibre1040/

30 June 2014, 01:32 PM	#24
southtexas 2025 TitaniumYM Pledge Member Join Date: May 2011 Location: Great State of TX Posts: 5,787	I'd recommend a trusted seller here on TRF. Do YOUR RESEARCH FIRST. __________________ Forty six & 2 are just ahead of me. Follow me on Instagram @ccrolex

30 June 2014, 01:49 PM	#25
z32turbo "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Sea Level Watch: Varies Posts: 6,877	Personal preference Not a wrong decision either way. Plenty of pros/cons on both sides. __________________ Instagram @z32turbo

30 June 2014, 02:22 PM	#26
HogwldFLTR 2025 TitaniumYM Pledge Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Real Name: Lee Location: 42.48.45N70.48.48 Watch: Too many to list! Posts: 33,811	Two year warranty when purchased with discretion here is plenty of time for early life failures to occur. The extra two years won't be necessary nor will it cover a needed service at the five to seven year mark. I'd say buy through TRF with care. __________________ Troglodyte in residence! https://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=808599

30 June 2014, 03:16 PM	#27
Perrinyanna "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Philippines Posts: 262	Regardless of brand, and the price difference, I always buy from an AD...Unless i am buying a discontinued or vintage watch... I just try to bargain to get the best price. I feel more confident that i am really getting a "brand new" watch, with no possiblity that it has been worn "in transit to avoid customs", "worn for a week with a different strap", etc..Warranty card starts when you buy it..but thats just me...but i dont buy at boutiques because they dont give any discounts..

30 June 2014, 03:24 PM	#28
Hairdude1 "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Real Name: Alex Location: Chicago Watch: AP,PP, Rolex Posts: 37,156	I would buy from a trusted seller __________________ Instagram: @Hairdude Watches in Collection 5070R, 5522A, 214270 MK1, 228238 16750, 26401, 5711, 116718, 116710LN, 116300, 16710"Coke", 372, 15300, 15703 (All Flipped) Official Member "Perpetual 30" Las Vegas GTG 2016 Official Member "WIS-CON" Las Vegas International GTG 2017 Official Member 'WIS-CON' Las Vegas Int'l GTG 2018

30 June 2014, 03:33 PM	#29
jimmypark54 "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Real Name: Jimmy Location: La Crescenta Watch: AP Diver Posts: 808	trf is always the best place. good luck

30 June 2014, 04:13 PM	#30
sierra11b "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Real Name: Eric Location: California Watch: MkXVIII, 3570.50 Posts: 1,966	TRF. Although without ADs TRF sellers wouldn't exist... No matter, here's plenty of non enthusiasts willing to keep them alive. If you want to pay sales tax and 10-15% more on top of tax that's on you... If you aren't near your bank to wire money for a watch you'll likely get in 24hrs anyway, then you either have too much money to care, or have serious patience and laziness issues. I can understand a couple hundred for the AD experience, or even sitting down with yor SO to commemerate an anniversary or engagement with a pair, but we're likely talking a thousand or much, much more. There's nothing an AD can do that a TRF seller cannot. In fact, my three local ADs have never heard of the new Sea Dweller or Milgauss.

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