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Nissanzx1 · 20 July 2014, 10:38 PM

Picked this up at an estate sale yesterday. Non-working condition at the moment but I plan to take it apart. Anybody know anything? Look Authentic?

Looks like the center piece at one time lit up and rotated in a kaleidoscope style. I was thinking 1960's?

Thanks for any info!

Grant

Old Expat Beast · 20 July 2014, 10:40 PM

Looks fake to me.

Jocke · 20 July 2014, 10:50 PM

Grant send it to the Ebay watchmaker for repair and you will be happy if he not send it back.

What did you know about the 60´s young man?

Stop with this my friend, it belongs here.

Nissanzx1 · 20 July 2014, 10:50 PM

If it helps, the guy has had it for over 30 years. I spoke to the owner (still living) and bought it from him personally. He thinks he bought it from an auction, but has a fuzzy memory as he's got to be 90 years old. He said it was working when he bought it and used flourescent lighting.

Grant

KINGROLESAR · 20 July 2014, 10:57 PM

I don't know but real or fake I kind of like it. How much did you pay?

Jocke · 20 July 2014, 10:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nissanzx1

If it helps, the guy has had it for over 30 years. I spoke to the owner (still living) and bought it from him personally. He thinks he bought it from an auction, but has a fuzzy memory as he's got to be 90 years old. He said it was working when he bought it and used flourescent lighting.

Grant

You buy it from the Ebay watchmaker?

History can mean two things my friend, some are for real and some are fictional.

ExplorerChris · 20 July 2014, 11:00 PM

Could be a very rare one of a kind piece.
Piece of what, not sure

Old Expat Beast · 20 July 2014, 11:10 PM

I somehow get the feeling that Jocke is firing up the Photoshop at this very moment

Nissanzx1 · 20 July 2014, 11:13 PM

Lol I bet Jocke has plans for me, he always does ;)

King, they guy would not take less than $50, and believe me I tried to talk him down several times... He didn't need the money and didn't really want to sell his stuff but his kids were making him...

GH

andromeda160 · 20 July 2014, 11:20 PM

It looks like it's probably fake, but pop off the back and compare the movement with other vintage rolex wall clocks

KINGROLESAR · 20 July 2014, 11:49 PM

Maybe 1950s is it glass or Plastic covered?

Jocke · 21 July 2014, 12:05 AM

Is here someone that believe that this kindergarten work is from Rolex?

If so, I been worried.

Jocke · 21 July 2014, 12:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KINGROLESAR

Maybe 1950s is it glass or Plastic covered?

It's Tiffany glass.

mannyv11 · 21 July 2014, 12:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Old Expat Beast

I somehow get the feeling that Jocke is firing up the Photoshop at this very moment

he never closes photoshop

Jocke · 21 July 2014, 12:32 AM

I just google fake wall clock in Topeka and this come up.

KINGROLESAR · 21 July 2014, 12:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jocke

It's Tiffany glass.

HL65 · 21 July 2014, 12:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jocke

I just google fake wall clock in Topeka and this come up.

Jocke · 21 July 2014, 12:49 AM

HL65 · 21 July 2014, 12:51 AM

Johny · 21 July 2014, 01:04 AM

Tools · 21 July 2014, 01:20 AM

since Rolex doesn't actually make wall clocks, they only license them to bear the trademark logo; this one would need a bit of history to know for sure..

In any event, it's a great wall conversation piece and very likely that a modern battery powered movement can be installed easily..

Enjoy it and have some great times with your friends around it..

KINGROLESAR · 21 July 2014, 01:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tools

since Rolex doesn't actually make wall clocks, they only license them to bear the trademark logo; this one would need a bit of history to know for sure..

In any event, it's a great wall conversation piece and very likely that a modern battery powered movement can be installed easily..

Enjoy it and have some great times with your friends around it..

Agree

Nissanzx1 · 21 July 2014, 01:50 AM

Ok so the "crystal" is glass and the movement is a sweep seconds style manufactured by a "Sun Chang Watch and Clock Industrial Co., LTD."

Couple more pics. Probably have more questions than before. Can't find much about this manufacturer on google.

GH

edgware14 · 21 July 2014, 01:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tools

since Rolex doesn't actually make wall clocks, they only license them to bear the trademark logo; this one would need a bit of history to know for sure..

In any event, it's a great wall conversation piece and very likely that a modern battery powered movement can be installed easily..

Enjoy it and have some great times with your friends around it..

This

KINGROLESAR · 21 July 2014, 04:43 AM

Do you think the word Rolex is original to the clock? Same age how it's applied and so on-

TempoKing · 21 July 2014, 04:48 AM

Looks like an Alain Silberstein clock (Not really).

Laszlo · 21 July 2014, 05:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jocke

I just google fake wall clock in Topeka and this come up.

Nissanzx1 · 21 July 2014, 05:37 AM

Lettering appears original to the clock. Spacing is careful and someone took the time to apply them evenly and straight.

I just don't understand why 30-40 years ago someone would have made a fake Rolex clock. That is to say, before the brand took off to the stratosphere with prices. I realize the watches have been enjoyed since the 30's-ish. I see why people fake Rolex clocks today, but the 1950's and 1960's?

I guess anything is possible and it will probably remain a mystery unless I can find somebody who saw this type of clock in person years ago...

GH

Jocke · 21 July 2014, 05:46 AM

Grant my friend do you still are serious when you believe it's a product from Rolex? Have you ever seen a wrist watch with
components from Sun Chang Watch and Clock Industrial Co., LTD?

Maybe you want to believe it's made by Rolex but I can tell you for sure it's not. Just add the $50 to your ripoff account.
Just run over it by a bulldozer and go further, you made a mistake but we love you anyway.

Vincent65 · 21 July 2014, 05:53 AM

Put it this way - I doubt it was made in Geneva… or by - or for - ROLEX.

20 July 2014, 10:50 PM	#3
Jocke 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Real Name: Jocke Location: Sweden Watch: A dozen of Rolex's Posts: 22,541	Grant send it to the Ebay watchmaker for repair and you will be happy if he not send it back. What did you know about the 60´s young man? Stop with this my friend, it belongs here. __________________ This message is written in perfect swenglish. What is best a custom Rolex or a Rolex that is stuck in custom? Buy a professional camera and you´re a professional photographer, buy a flute and you own a flute.

20 July 2014, 10:50 PM	#4
Nissanzx1 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Real Name: Grant Holthaus Location: Kansas Watch: Rolex Most Days... Posts: 237	If it helps, the guy has had it for over 30 years. I spoke to the owner (still living) and bought it from him personally. He thinks he bought it from an auction, but has a fuzzy memory as he's got to be 90 years old. He said it was working when he bought it and used flourescent lighting. Grant __________________ 1501 in YG 1803 in YG Vintage BB, Patek 3646, JLC Res de Marche, 16700 15200, 16233, 16234, 16610, 16613, 16600, 16570, Omega Man On The Moon, Asst'd Vintage Chrono's

20 July 2014, 10:57 PM	#5
KINGROLESAR "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2013 Real Name: Drew Location: PHILADELPHIA Watch: CROWN MARKED Posts: 2,158	I don't know but real or fake I kind of like it. How much did you pay? __________________ "Raise your glass high, those here for those not with but a sigh; for enjoy each day, it comes but once, then quickly to the past as it must" - King Rolesar 03

20 July 2014, 11:00 PM	#7
ExplorerChris "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2014 Real Name: Chris Location: Ontario, Canada Watch: Explorer II 16550 Posts: 1,401	Could be a very rare one of a kind piece. Piece of what, not sure __________________ There's a crown for every achievement A Watch Is Just A Watch A Rolex Is A Timepiece

20 July 2014, 11:13 PM	#9
Nissanzx1 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Real Name: Grant Holthaus Location: Kansas Watch: Rolex Most Days... Posts: 237	Lol I bet Jocke has plans for me, he always does ;) King, they guy would not take less than $50, and believe me I tried to talk him down several times... He didn't need the money and didn't really want to sell his stuff but his kids were making him... GH __________________ 1501 in YG 1803 in YG Vintage BB, Patek 3646, JLC Res de Marche, 16700 15200, 16233, 16234, 16610, 16613, 16600, 16570, Omega Man On The Moon, Asst'd Vintage Chrono's

20 July 2014, 10:40 PM	#2
Old Expat Beast TRF Moderator & 2024 SubLV41 Patron Join Date: Jul 2013 Real Name: Adam Location: Far East Watch: Golden Tuna Posts: 28,780	Looks fake to me.

20 July 2014, 11:10 PM	#8
Old Expat Beast TRF Moderator & 2024 SubLV41 Patron Join Date: Jul 2013 Real Name: Adam Location: Far East Watch: Golden Tuna Posts: 28,780	I somehow get the feeling that Jocke is firing up the Photoshop at this very moment

20 July 2014, 11:20 PM	#10
andromeda160 Banned Join Date: Dec 2012 Real Name: Greg Location: michigan Watch: Rolex Oyster Posts: 4,046	It looks like it's probably fake, but pop off the back and compare the movement with other vintage rolex wall clocks

20 July 2014, 11:49 PM	#11
KINGROLESAR "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2013 Real Name: Drew Location: PHILADELPHIA Watch: CROWN MARKED Posts: 2,158	Maybe 1950s is it glass or Plastic covered? __________________ "Raise your glass high, those here for those not with but a sigh; for enjoy each day, it comes but once, then quickly to the past as it must" - King Rolesar 03

21 July 2014, 12:05 AM	#12
Jocke 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Real Name: Jocke Location: Sweden Watch: A dozen of Rolex's Posts: 22,541	Is here someone that believe that this kindergarten work is from Rolex? If so, I been worried. __________________ This message is written in perfect swenglish. What is best a custom Rolex or a Rolex that is stuck in custom? Buy a professional camera and you´re a professional photographer, buy a flute and you own a flute.

21 July 2014, 12:32 AM	#15
Jocke 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Real Name: Jocke Location: Sweden Watch: A dozen of Rolex's Posts: 22,541	I just google fake wall clock in Topeka and this come up. __________________ This message is written in perfect swenglish. What is best a custom Rolex or a Rolex that is stuck in custom? Buy a professional camera and you´re a professional photographer, buy a flute and you own a flute.

21 July 2014, 12:49 AM	#18
Jocke 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Real Name: Jocke Location: Sweden Watch: A dozen of Rolex's Posts: 22,541	__________________ This message is written in perfect swenglish. What is best a custom Rolex or a Rolex that is stuck in custom? Buy a professional camera and you´re a professional photographer, buy a flute and you own a flute.

21 July 2014, 12:51 AM	#19
HL65 TRF Moderator & 2024 SubLV41 Patron Join Date: Dec 2007 Real Name: Ken Location: SW Florida Watch: One on my wrist. Posts: 63,984	__________________ *SPEM SUCCESSUS ALIT*

21 July 2014, 01:04 AM	#20
Johny "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Real Name: john Location: Scotland Watch: sub 16610Lv Posts: 13,523	__________________ "AFTER DARK" BAR AND NIGHT CLUB GM.

21 July 2014, 01:20 AM	#21
Tools TRF Moderator & 2024 SubLV41 Patron Join Date: May 2007 Real Name: Larry Location: Mojave Desert Watch: GMT's Posts: 43,490	since Rolex doesn't actually make wall clocks, they only license them to bear the trademark logo; this one would need a bit of history to know for sure.. In any event, it's a great wall conversation piece and very likely that a modern battery powered movement can be installed easily.. Enjoy it and have some great times with your friends around it.. __________________ (Chill ... It's just a watch Forum.....) NAWCC Member

21 July 2014, 04:43 AM	#25
KINGROLESAR "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2013 Real Name: Drew Location: PHILADELPHIA Watch: CROWN MARKED Posts: 2,158	Do you think the word Rolex is original to the clock? Same age how it's applied and so on- __________________ "Raise your glass high, those here for those not with but a sigh; for enjoy each day, it comes but once, then quickly to the past as it must" - King Rolesar 03

21 July 2014, 04:48 AM	#26
TempoKing Banned Join Date: Jan 2008 Real Name: Anastasios Location: Athens Greece Watch: Rolex GMT 1675 Posts: 8,497	Looks like an Alain Silberstein clock (Not really).

21 July 2014, 05:37 AM	#28
Nissanzx1 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Real Name: Grant Holthaus Location: Kansas Watch: Rolex Most Days... Posts: 237	Lettering appears original to the clock. Spacing is careful and someone took the time to apply them evenly and straight. I just don't understand why 30-40 years ago someone would have made a fake Rolex clock. That is to say, before the brand took off to the stratosphere with prices. I realize the watches have been enjoyed since the 30's-ish. I see why people fake Rolex clocks today, but the 1950's and 1960's? I guess anything is possible and it will probably remain a mystery unless I can find somebody who saw this type of clock in person years ago... GH __________________ 1501 in YG 1803 in YG Vintage BB, Patek 3646, JLC Res de Marche, 16700 15200, 16233, 16234, 16610, 16613, 16600, 16570, Omega Man On The Moon, Asst'd Vintage Chrono's

21 July 2014, 05:46 AM	#29
Jocke 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Real Name: Jocke Location: Sweden Watch: A dozen of Rolex's Posts: 22,541	Grant my friend do you still are serious when you believe it's a product from Rolex? Have you ever seen a wrist watch with components from Sun Chang Watch and Clock Industrial Co., LTD? Maybe you want to believe it's made by Rolex but I can tell you for sure it's not. Just add the $50 to your ripoff account. Just run over it by a bulldozer and go further, you made a mistake but we love you anyway. __________________ This message is written in perfect swenglish. What is best a custom Rolex or a Rolex that is stuck in custom? Buy a professional camera and you´re a professional photographer, buy a flute and you own a flute.

21 July 2014, 05:53 AM	#30
Vincent65 "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Switzerland Posts: 14,298	Put it this way - I doubt it was made in Geneva… or by - or for - ROLEX.

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