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bubbaK · 25 July 2014, 02:15 AM

Howdy y'all...

I swung by my watchmaker today, and someone brought in (vintage, not the new model) Tudor Ranger for servicing.
My watchmaker showed me the dial, which is in perfect crisp condition, but to me it doesn't look like a genuine dial.
What do you guys think?

joe100 · 25 July 2014, 02:27 AM

If it says ranger in red, it's not real.

Tudor may have made a few red rangers but it has never been verified and almost every fake ranger I see is a red these days.

If you have a ranger case and absolutely need a dial, let your conscience be your guide, but I wouldn't buy that

bubbaK · 25 July 2014, 02:57 AM

Thanks, it looked to good to be true, and we all know when that's the case, it usually is too good to be true. Anyone else? Thoughts?

Michael M. · 25 July 2014, 03:06 AM

Fake.

bubbaK · 25 July 2014, 03:12 AM

Thanks a lot!

springer · 25 July 2014, 03:19 AM

Those fake dials have been around for many years.

bubbaK · 25 July 2014, 03:34 AM

Thanks a lot. You guys are the best. You can always count on fine members of TRF!

crowncollection · 25 July 2014, 06:27 AM

Fake dial

linesiders · 25 July 2014, 07:11 AM

That one would be an easy fake if it had no red.

I would question why your watchmaker would think that new dial was a 20-50 year old dial - even NOS.

Randy9999 · 28 July 2014, 09:44 AM

I've seen pages from this floating around, but I don't know what the reference work is titled. It seems to picture the "RANGER" in a red font from 1975 (?) ... Any thoughts would be appreciated. Regarding the OP's dial pic, one thing not yet mentioned that wouldn't support legitimacy — my understanding is that there should never be a space between the words "OYSTER" and "DATE" (i.e., should read one word "OYSTERDATE").

Randy

bubbaK · 28 July 2014, 05:29 PM

Agreed, it should say OYSTERDATE, instead of OYSTER DATE. Here are pics of the watch, clearly a franken (look at the dial sporting "SELF-WINDING" sign, and then look at the movement LOL):

To me datewheel is also off, what do you guys think?

joe100 · 28 July 2014, 09:31 PM

It's all bad. These fakes have been around for years and years. Don't give it a second thought

bubbaK · 28 July 2014, 09:54 PM

I won't, and I didn't. Horrible.

linesiders · 28 July 2014, 10:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Randy9999

I've seen pages from this floating around, but I don't know what the reference work is titled. It seems to picture the "RANGER" in a red font from 1975 (?) ... Any thoughts would be appreciated.

What book is that?

(Still not good)

25 July 2014, 02:15 AM	#1
bubbaK "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Real Name: Neven Location: Twin Peaks, WA Watch: Serpico Y Laino Posts: 127	Tudor Ranger Dial Howdy y'all... I swung by my watchmaker today, and someone brought in (vintage, not the new model) Tudor Ranger for servicing. My watchmaker showed me the dial, which is in perfect crisp condition, but to me it doesn't look like a genuine dial. What do you guys think?

25 July 2014, 02:27 AM	#2
joe100 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Real Name: Joe Location: New Mexico Watch: Explorer Posts: 12,840	If it says ranger in red, it's not real. Tudor may have made a few red rangers but it has never been verified and almost every fake ranger I see is a red these days. If you have a ranger case and absolutely need a dial, let your conscience be your guide, but I wouldn't buy that __________________ It's Espresso, not Expresso. Coffee is not a train in Italy. -TRF Member 6982-

25 July 2014, 03:19 AM	#6
springer 2025 Pledge Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Real Name: jP Location: Texas Watch: GMT-MASTER Posts: 17,423	Those fake dials have been around for many years. __________________ Member of NAWCC since 1990. INSTAGRAM USER NAME: SPRINGERJFP Visit my Instagram page to view some of the finest vintage GMTs anywhere - as well as other vintage classics.

25 July 2014, 06:27 AM	#8
crowncollection "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Real Name: David Location: australia Posts: 20,246	Fake dial __________________ watches many

25 July 2014, 07:11 AM	#9
linesiders 2025 Pledge Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: RedSox Nation Watch: U Talkn Bout Wilis Posts: 5,513	That one would be an easy fake if it had no red. I would question why your watchmaker would think that new dial was a 20-50 year old dial - even NOS. __________________ I'm a sailor peg. And I've lost my leg. Climbing up the top sails. I've lost my leg!

25 July 2014, 02:57 AM	#3
bubbaK "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Real Name: Neven Location: Twin Peaks, WA Watch: Serpico Y Laino Posts: 127	Thanks, it looked to good to be true, and we all know when that's the case, it usually is too good to be true. Anyone else? Thoughts?

25 July 2014, 03:06 AM	#4
Michael M. Banned Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Newport Beach, CA Posts: 8,391	Fake.

25 July 2014, 03:12 AM	#5
bubbaK "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Real Name: Neven Location: Twin Peaks, WA Watch: Serpico Y Laino Posts: 127	Thanks a lot!

25 July 2014, 03:34 AM	#7
bubbaK "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Real Name: Neven Location: Twin Peaks, WA Watch: Serpico Y Laino Posts: 127	Thanks a lot. You guys are the best. You can always count on fine members of TRF!

28 July 2014, 09:44 AM	#10
Randy9999 "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Real Name: Randy Location: USA Watch: red 1680; 6542 Posts: 557	I've seen pages from this floating around, but I don't know what the reference work is titled. It seems to picture the "RANGER" in a red font from 1975 (?) ... Any thoughts would be appreciated. Regarding the OP's dial pic, one thing not yet mentioned that wouldn't support legitimacy — my understanding is that there should never be a space between the words "OYSTER" and "DATE" (i.e., should read one word "OYSTERDATE"). Randy

28 July 2014, 05:29 PM	#11
bubbaK "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Real Name: Neven Location: Twin Peaks, WA Watch: Serpico Y Laino Posts: 127	Agreed, it should say OYSTERDATE, instead of OYSTER DATE. Here are pics of the watch, clearly a franken (look at the dial sporting "SELF-WINDING" sign, and then look at the movement LOL): To me datewheel is also off, what do you guys think?

28 July 2014, 09:31 PM	#12
joe100 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Real Name: Joe Location: New Mexico Watch: Explorer Posts: 12,840	It's all bad. These fakes have been around for years and years. Don't give it a second thought __________________ It's Espresso, not Expresso. Coffee is not a train in Italy. -TRF Member 6982-

28 July 2014, 09:54 PM	#13
bubbaK "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Real Name: Neven Location: Twin Peaks, WA Watch: Serpico Y Laino Posts: 127	I won't, and I didn't. Horrible.

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