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doc_colton · 1 April 2008, 01:13 AM

Just visited my AD here in Toronto looking for a non-ceramic GMT II. He showed me a nice Pepsi and a Coke and when we started talking price he basically told me there is no room for discussion around any discount, which was strange because I had dealt with him before and he loves to barter. He more or less admitted to me that they were hoarding them and charging top dollar. He said "oh you must be a collector because only collectors are buying these discontinued models now, but we can talk deal if you want a new ceramic one".

frostie · 1 April 2008, 01:15 AM

That's strange

Ad's here are trying to get rid of them and they are offering discounts

Felly Jr. · 1 April 2008, 01:18 AM

I had a similar experience. I just bought an "M" series Pepsi and there was no way I was getting a discount. I had to pay $5,750 for it also. BUT, it probably has the new 3186 movement as it passed the "wiggle" test with flying colors!

padi56 · 1 April 2008, 01:25 AM

Dont think the modern GMT11 will ever become that collectable just to many of them around, nearly 20 years in production and with only very minor cosmetic changes.Find another AD yours is talking bull~~~~ many still discount the GMT11.

donutdanny · 1 April 2008, 01:28 AM

I bought a Z series Pepsi in February with 20% off and no tax. Don't know what movement it has. How can you tell without opening it?

Felly Jr. · 1 April 2008, 01:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by donutdanny

I bought a Z series Pepsi in February with 20% off and no tax. Don't know what movement it has. How can you tell without opening it?

You might want to check this out: http://www.minus4plus6.com/paracromblu16710.htm

jdsmoke · 1 April 2008, 02:15 AM

I bought a GMT II (Pepsi) last month and didn't get any discount. Last one the AD had. I did get a significant discount on a Breitling that I bought at the same time so it worked out.

Road Warrior · 1 April 2008, 02:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by frostie

That's strange

Ad's here are trying to get rid of them and they are offering discounts

Same here. My AD would love to sell everyone he had at a nice discount. He won't budge on a ceramic but will deal in a minute on an old GMT II.

Marrk · 1 April 2008, 02:58 AM

I'm looking to buy a new GMT II M-series "Pepsi."

I am in Los Angeles. I have only found them at Ben Bridge here in L.A. and they want $5750.00 plus tax.

I will be in San Francisco on April 4 and Berkeley on April 5, if anyone knows of an AD who will discount.

Thanks.

Marrk

Felly Jr. · 1 April 2008, 03:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marrk

I'm looking to buy a new GMT II M-series "Pepsi."

I am in Los Angeles. I have only found them at Ben Bridge here in L.A. and they want $5750.00 plus tax.

I will be in San Francisco on April 4 and Berkeley on April 5, if anyone knows of an AD who will discount.

Thanks.

Marrk

PM sent Marrk.

icesalmon · 4 April 2008, 02:20 PM

Felly,

Would you mind PM me the AD? I live in San Francisco area and I am going to Oregon this weekend. I am looking for 2 GMT ll now. This afternoon I talked to an AD there, and got a deal of about 7% off.

applebook · 4 April 2008, 02:35 PM

Doc, I ordered mine from a private seller. LNIB "D" serial.

There's no way that I'm paying list price for a watch that is a dime a dozen. The GMT II is a great watch, but rare it isn't.

I expect there to be hundreds of thousands of these in at least mint condition for the next decade.

wuzzzer · 4 April 2008, 03:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marrk

I'm looking to buy a new GMT II M-series "Pepsi."

I am in Los Angeles. I have only found them at Ben Bridge here in L.A. and they want $5750.00 plus tax.

Why are these stores selling their watches for higher than their list prices?? They are not shown in the most current price list so they should still be priced at their 'old' prices!

applebook · 4 April 2008, 03:24 PM

Because the II has been discontinued, dealers can pretty much sell them for whatever they want.

Felly Jr. · 4 April 2008, 03:34 PM

Every AD I've talked to has told me that the price list they got from Rolex put the new MSRP of the (16710) GMT II at $5,750. There's been at least a dozen AD's that have told me this.

Gaijin · 4 April 2008, 05:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by icesalmon

Felly,

Would you mind PM me the AD? I live in San Francisco area and I am going to Oregon this weekend. I am looking for 2 GMT ll now. This afternoon I talked to an AD there, and got a deal of about 7% off.

If that falls through I know an AD in Oregon that has two in the case but probably no discount, just no tax. Felly's deal will be better as usual.

buz-lh · 4 April 2008, 08:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wuzzzer

Why are these stores selling their watches for higher than their list prices?? They are not shown in the most current price list so they should still be priced at their 'old' prices!

They are in the current price list at 5750.00

wuzzzer · 5 April 2008, 04:00 AM

Hmm, my AD has them still priced at $5075! I'll have to visit them again to see if they have changed them at all.

Trurolexer · 5 April 2008, 04:11 AM

I think is hard to get a discount for discountinued model such GMT Master II.

Marrk · 7 April 2008, 02:49 PM

http://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=37316

vukotab · 7 April 2008, 06:26 PM

That`s strange...even the Belgrade`s only AD gives some discounts,mostly if you`re paying in cash...

etp095 · 7 April 2008, 06:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trurolexer

I think is hard to get a discount for discountinued model such GMT Master II.

not in the USA my friend,you just have to shop around a little.

goldenlace · 7 April 2008, 06:50 PM

HI, I got mine last march: the gmtII at the old list price but no discount. Hope this helps.

icesalmon · 10 April 2008, 09:00 AM

We bought 2 GMT II 16710 at $5075 each on April 5 in Oregon. We went to Crater Lake the next day morning. This is my first wrist shot.
Thanks to Han, Felly, and KansaiVet for all the advices.
It is running about +14s/day, I am kind of disappointed. I hope it will get better over time.

etp095 · 10 April 2008, 02:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by icesalmon

We bought 2 GMT II 16710 at $5075 each on April 5 in Oregon. We went to Crater Lake the next day morning. This is my first wrist shot.
Thanks to Han, Felly, and KansaiVet for all the advices.
It is running about +14s/day, I am kind of disappointed. I hope it will get better over time.

great pic of a great watch,welcone to the forum.

boa2 · 10 April 2008, 03:03 PM

Congratulations on a great watch. Beautiful photo at Crater Lake!

jasonbellevue · 10 April 2008, 03:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by icesalmon

We bought 2 GMT II 16710 at $5075 each on April 5 in Oregon. We went to Crater Lake the next day morning. This is my first wrist shot.
Thanks to Han, Felly, and KansaiVet for all the advices.
It is running about +14s/day, I am kind of disappointed. I hope it will get better over time.

I agree, what a nice pic of the watch amidst a beautiful backdrop.

Congratulations on the watch, and welcome to TRF.

CPCC · 10 April 2008, 03:59 PM

Congrats,
But wow 14 secs a day seems like much. Hopefully it will improve.

Marrk · 10 April 2008, 04:00 PM

Beautiful watch and great pic.

What series is it? Z? M?

Quote:

Originally Posted by icesalmon

We bought 2 GMT II 16710 at $5075 each on April 5 in Oregon. We went to Crater Lake the next day morning. This is my first wrist shot.
Thanks to Han, Felly, and KansaiVet for all the advices.
It is running about +14s/day, I am kind of disappointed. I hope it will get better over time.

ROLEX MAN · 10 April 2008, 04:04 PM

What a shot it must have been cold!

1 April 2008, 01:13 AM	#1
doc_colton "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Toronto Posts: 825	GMT II - AD says "no discount" Just visited my AD here in Toronto looking for a non-ceramic GMT II. He showed me a nice Pepsi and a Coke and when we started talking price he basically told me there is no room for discussion around any discount, which was strange because I had dealt with him before and he loves to barter. He more or less admitted to me that they were hoarding them and charging top dollar. He said "oh you must be a collector because only collectors are buying these discontinued models now, but we can talk deal if you want a new ceramic one". __________________

1 April 2008, 01:15 AM	#2
frostie 1,000,000th PostMember Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Earth Posts: 14,048	That's strange Ad's here are trying to get rid of them and they are offering discounts __________________ GMT - Master II C - 116710 LN

1 April 2008, 01:25 AM	#4
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4 April 2008, 02:35 PM	#12
applebook "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: vancouver Posts: 1,918	Doc, I ordered mine from a private seller. LNIB "D" serial. There's no way that I'm paying list price for a watch that is a dime a dozen. The GMT II is a great watch, but rare it isn't. I expect there to be hundreds of thousands of these in at least mint condition for the next decade. __________________

4 April 2008, 03:24 PM	#14
applebook "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: vancouver Posts: 1,918	Because the II has been discontinued, dealers can pretty much sell them for whatever they want. __________________

1 April 2008, 01:18 AM	#3
Felly Jr. "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Real Name: Felly Location: Washington State Watch: SS Daytona/GV Posts: 2,998	I had a similar experience. I just bought an "M" series Pepsi and there was no way I was getting a discount. I had to pay $5,750 for it also. BUT, it probably has the new 3186 movement as it passed the "wiggle" test with flying colors!

1 April 2008, 01:28 AM	#5
donutdanny "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Real Name: Danny Location: Houston Watch: TT Sub/Slate Serti Posts: 159	I bought a Z series Pepsi in February with 20% off and no tax. Don't know what movement it has. How can you tell without opening it?

1 April 2008, 02:15 AM	#7
jdsmoke "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: PA Posts: 9	I bought a GMT II (Pepsi) last month and didn't get any discount. Last one the AD had. I did get a significant discount on a Breitling that I bought at the same time so it worked out.

1 April 2008, 02:58 AM	#9
Marrk "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Real Name: Mark Location: Los Angeles Watch: 5513 Posts: 2,192	I'm looking to buy a new GMT II M-series "Pepsi." I am in Los Angeles. I have only found them at Ben Bridge here in L.A. and they want $5750.00 plus tax. I will be in San Francisco on April 4 and Berkeley on April 5, if anyone knows of an AD who will discount. Thanks. Marrk

4 April 2008, 02:20 PM	#11
icesalmon "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: USA Watch: 16710 Posts: 19	Felly, Would you mind PM me the AD? I live in San Francisco area and I am going to Oregon this weekend. I am looking for 2 GMT ll now. This afternoon I talked to an AD there, and got a deal of about 7% off.

4 April 2008, 03:34 PM	#15
Felly Jr. "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Real Name: Felly Location: Washington State Watch: SS Daytona/GV Posts: 2,998	Every AD I've talked to has told me that the price list they got from Rolex put the new MSRP of the (16710) GMT II at $5,750. There's been at least a dozen AD's that have told me this.

5 April 2008, 04:00 AM	#18
wuzzzer "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: USA Posts: 384	Hmm, my AD has them still priced at $5075! I'll have to visit them again to see if they have changed them at all.

5 April 2008, 04:11 AM	#19
Trurolexer Banned Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: USA Watch: 5513MaxiI+PreComex Posts: 18,421	I think is hard to get a discount for discountinued model such GMT Master II.

7 April 2008, 02:49 PM	#20
Marrk "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Real Name: Mark Location: Los Angeles Watch: 5513 Posts: 2,192	http://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=37316

7 April 2008, 06:26 PM	#21
vukotab "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Real Name: Vukota Brajovi Location: Belgrade,Serbia Watch: ing movies! Posts: 3,812	That`s strange...even the Belgrade`s only AD gives some discounts,mostly if you`re paying in cash... __________________ My fashion blog and Instagram: https://stylebyvukota.com/ https://instagram.com/vukotabrajovic/

7 April 2008, 06:50 PM	#23
goldenlace Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Philippines Posts: 28	HI, I got mine last march: the gmtII at the old list price but no discount. Hope this helps.

10 April 2008, 09:00 AM	#24
icesalmon "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: USA Watch: 16710 Posts: 19	We bought 2 GMT II 16710 at $5075 each on April 5 in Oregon. We went to Crater Lake the next day morning. This is my first wrist shot. Thanks to Han, Felly, and KansaiVet for all the advices. It is running about +14s/day, I am kind of disappointed. I hope it will get better over time. Attached Images

10 April 2008, 03:03 PM	#26
boa2 "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Utah Watch: Lover Posts: 3,957	Congratulations on a great watch. Beautiful photo at Crater Lake!

10 April 2008, 03:59 PM	#28
CPCC "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Real Name: Bill Location: USA Posts: 1,857	Congrats, But wow 14 secs a day seems like much. Hopefully it will improve. __________________

10 April 2008, 04:04 PM	#30
ROLEX MAN 2025 TitaniumYM Pledge Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Real Name: Martin Location: Home and Away Watch: you? "YES PLEASE"! Posts: 3,742	What a shot it must have been cold! __________________ *it's not just about telling the time...* *happy rolexing...* I'm just a man with a passion

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