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Old 14 September 2014, 08:47 AM   #1
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Calling experts. Are these mid font mark III? They r not that fat but the fonts look good. Also can someone give a lecture about flat four insert? Thanks in advance.







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Old 14 September 2014, 09:27 AM   #2
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Faded ones look MK3, other midfont form 80s or service
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Old 14 September 2014, 09:57 AM   #3
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I like the faded inserts you have pictured. Something about the flat four I do not care for.


But Anything but a service insert for me. I cringe every time I see a nice vintage watch with a shiny new thin font insert.
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Old 14 September 2014, 02:56 PM   #4
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Thanks guys. As for the flat 4, I've seen it on some vintage pre-80's. The most obvious one is on the drsd dial article. It's the version 3 watch. It has the exact insert like mine. Is squat flat 4 like these original or service, or both?


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Old 14 September 2014, 06:26 PM   #5
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Old 14 September 2014, 10:05 PM   #6
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I have the same insert and asked the same question a few months ago...

http://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=350755

the font is not thin but neither is it really fat, it has however turned a beautiful deep mahogany that is impossible to photograph. I believe it's an 80's service insert. When I bought the watch it came on an 80's 93150 bracelet. Putting 2 and 2 together points to both components being change during a service. Hope this shine some light for you!
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Old 15 September 2014, 12:35 AM   #7
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Got it. Thanks guys. Nice looking insert m watch David. U r right it's kind of between mid and thin font. Here it is compare to other service inserts





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Old 15 September 2014, 12:43 AM   #8
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I have the same insert and asked the same question a few months ago...

http://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=350755

the font is not thin but neither is it really fat, it has however turned a beautiful deep mahogany that is impossible to photograph. I believe it's an 80's service insert. When I bought the watch it came on an 80's 93150 bracelet. Putting 2 and 2 together points to both components being change during a service. Hope this shine some light for you!


I don't think it's impossible to photograph because you can see the nice brown color of it. Matches the strap nicely. Looks great
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Old 15 September 2014, 12:50 AM   #9
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These are both early mk3 "soft 4" inserts. You'd find them on the early 1665 whites (mk1), for instance.



Something like a rail dial _should_ also commonly have a mk3, but a different variant. It would have a "hard 4" and the font would be pushed out to the edge of the insert outer ring (unlike what you see below).





Two more early mk3s (on top of a late mk3)
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Old 15 September 2014, 01:46 AM   #10
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Both of the inserts on this picture are amazing ^^^ but the top one is just perfect. Very nice
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Old 15 September 2014, 01:47 AM   #11
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You meant the top of the 40 has serifs, right? These have rounded tops. So rounded top early mark III n serif top late mark III. Safe? ;)


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Old 15 September 2014, 01:50 AM   #12
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Both of the inserts on this picture are amazing ^^^ but the top one is just perfect. Very nice

Agree. It's amazing how they turn into different patina over time.


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Old 15 September 2014, 01:53 AM   #13
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Agree. It's amazing how they turn into different patina over time.


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It is one of my favorite things about vintage. Right up there with patina and chamfers
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Old 15 September 2014, 02:30 AM   #14
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I've just read this thread with interest. Apologies for being naive, but all these dials are for Subs or Sea-Dwellers right? Did Rolex put the same dials on both these watches?
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Old 15 September 2014, 03:00 AM   #15
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I've just read this thread with interest. Apologies for being naive, but all these dials are for Subs or Sea-Dwellers right? Did Rolex put the same dials on both these watches?

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You meant inserts? Yes they r all interchangeable between 5512,5513,1680,1665.


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Old 15 September 2014, 03:04 AM   #16
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You meant inserts? Yes they r all interchangeable between 5512,5513,1680,1665.
Sorry, yes inserts! I should have read my post before I hit the Submit button.
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