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swingt · 6 October 2014, 11:57 AM

5512 PCG Gilt in early 60s without date...or
1680 Red in early 70s with date...

Both are on OEM strap only, no bracelet, watch conditions are similar...

Any thoughts please?

Cheers

omitohud · 6 October 2014, 12:35 PM

Another big fight match between two references. Lol. This is a tough one. I would lean towards gilt if condition is excellent especially the dial. There will be no more rolex like that made. Even though red sub is equally awesome they r not rarer than the gilt.

There is something about rolex gold on black that is so captivating.

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linesiders · 6 October 2014, 01:25 PM

Gilt. Not even close for me.

Presa canary · 6 October 2014, 01:40 PM

I'm gilty in this battle

waspy1 · 6 October 2014, 01:52 PM

Gilt by a mile. Any gilt. Chapter ring and pcg gilt? No contest at all.

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greekbum · 6 October 2014, 02:04 PM

Gilt the red sub never did anything for me.

Karbo · 6 October 2014, 02:46 PM

5512

mike · 6 October 2014, 10:36 PM

I think among collectors gilt will win assuming condition.

nick c · 6 October 2014, 10:48 PM

Gilt

Vincent65 · 6 October 2014, 11:15 PM

well, I have a red 1680, and not a gilt 5512, so that's my answer.

enhamhale · 7 October 2014, 12:16 AM

Gilt

jollerbarn · 7 October 2014, 12:33 AM

Choose the one that sings to you. Both are (potentially) expensive toys, so buying one just from our opinions might end up disappointing you. If you get bitten, like many of us have, you'll want the one you didn't get anyway :-)

Both are fantastic references. Maybe the 5512 is a bit more of a "jungle" to enter. There are just so many variants. 2 line, 4 line, chapter ring, no chapter ring, pointed crown guards, normal crown guards. From what you've written it's a PCG, which would definitely be my preference. Also, if you can, chapter rings are a thing of beauty.

Also, the radium glossy dials are harder to find in nice condition than the reds and thus they command a much higher premium. Some prefer the patina on tritium to that on radium.

jyan212 · 7 October 2014, 02:01 AM

Gilt!

QueueCumber · 7 October 2014, 03:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by swingt

5512 PCG Gilt in early 60s without date...or
1680 Red in early 70s with date...

Both are on OEM strap only, no bracelet, watch conditions are similar...

Any thoughts please?

Cheers

5512 of course. Doesn't even seem like a fair contest IMO.

CrownMe · 7 October 2014, 04:38 AM

Buy the one you like more. Both are great references.

1675-David · 7 October 2014, 04:48 AM

I need a date window!

NukeMan · 7 October 2014, 04:50 AM

Need to chime in on gilt!

Mike1066 · 7 October 2014, 05:39 AM

Gilt.

lhanddds · 7 October 2014, 05:50 AM

5512 gilt

foodle · 7 October 2014, 05:55 AM

I'll go against the mainstream and vote for the red Sub.

I like having the date, and the bit of red text on the dial just works for me.

miccro · 7 October 2014, 10:15 AM

wasn't a decision for me. id been after a gilt for a while

mike

jyan212 · 7 October 2014, 10:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by miccro

wasn't a decision for me. id been after a gilt for a while

mike

Probably my favorite example of a 5512. Superb!

EEParker · 7 October 2014, 11:31 AM

Gilt would be my choice. Love the way a no-date dial looks, especially the gilts.

MitchSteel · 7 October 2014, 12:53 PM

Gilt

soundserious · 7 October 2014, 01:22 PM

Huh? Seriously? Not a contest.

Kabayan · 7 October 2014, 01:56 PM

5512 gilt.... Even the red subs is not easy to get either.
But the gilt, is simply awesome

Cheers,

Kabayan · 7 October 2014, 01:56 PM

5512 gilt.... Even the red subs is not easy to get either.
But the gilt, is simply awesome

Cheers,

QueueCumber · 7 October 2014, 01:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by miccro

wasn't a decision for me. id been after a gilt for a while

mike

I'll see your 5512 4-liner with my 5512 2-liner:

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miccro · 7 October 2014, 02:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by QueueCumber

I'll see your 5512 4-liner with my 5512 2-liner:

Untitled by j0hnnycache, on Flickr

beauty! - love the strap as well!

mike

i think this thread needs more photos

The_Walrus · 7 October 2014, 02:56 PM

A 2-liner 5512

6 October 2014, 11:57 AM	#1
swingt "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: US Posts: 97	What would you prefer? 5512 Gilt or 1680 Red? 5512 PCG Gilt in early 60s without date...or 1680 Red in early 70s with date... Both are on OEM strap only, no bracelet, watch conditions are similar... Any thoughts please? Cheers

6 October 2014, 12:35 PM	#2
omitohud "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Real Name: Sam Location: los Angeles Posts: 2,051	What would you prefer? 5512 Gilt or 1680 Red? Another big fight match between two references. Lol. This is a tough one. I would lean towards gilt if condition is excellent especially the dial. There will be no more rolex like that made. Even though red sub is equally awesome they r not rarer than the gilt. There is something about rolex gold on black that is so captivating. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

6 October 2014, 01:25 PM	#3
linesiders 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: RedSox Nation Watch: U Talkn Bout Wilis Posts: 5,499	Gilt. Not even close for me. __________________ I'm a sailor peg. And I've lost my leg. Climbing up the top sails. I've lost my leg!

6 October 2014, 02:04 PM	#6
greekbum "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Real Name: Nikos Location: Florida Watch: Rolex GMT 16750 Posts: 8,418	Gilt the red sub never did anything for me. __________________ Follow Me On Instagram @nickgogas Original Owner ROLEX 16750 GMT Daily Wearer For Over 13,000 Days And Counting

6 October 2014, 02:46 PM	#7
Karbo "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2011 Location: Paris, France Watch: Dayto/5164 Posts: 1,631	5512 __________________ IG : @aka_karbo

6 October 2014, 01:40 PM	#4
Presa canary "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2012 Real Name: Justin Location: Pa Watch: Explorer ii Posts: 3,152	I'm gilty in this battle

6 October 2014, 01:52 PM	#5
waspy1 Banned Join Date: Oct 2011 Real Name: Jeff Location: Home! Posts: 1,259	Gilt by a mile. Any gilt. Chapter ring and pcg gilt? No contest at all. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

6 October 2014, 10:36 PM	#8
mike "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 22,683	I think among collectors gilt will win assuming condition.

6 October 2014, 10:48 PM	#9
nick c Banned Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Canada Posts: 26,846	Gilt

6 October 2014, 11:15 PM	#10
Vincent65 "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Switzerland Posts: 14,298	well, I have a red 1680, and not a gilt 5512, so that's my answer.

7 October 2014, 12:16 AM	#11
enhamhale "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Real Name: Alex Location: England (andover) Watch: Submariners all Posts: 470	Gilt

7 October 2014, 12:33 AM	#12
jollerbarn Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Real Name: Jesper Location: Denmark Watch: out for scammers! Posts: 365	Choose the one that sings to you. Both are (potentially) expensive toys, so buying one just from our opinions might end up disappointing you. If you get bitten, like many of us have, you'll want the one you didn't get anyway :-) Both are fantastic references. Maybe the 5512 is a bit more of a "jungle" to enter. There are just so many variants. 2 line, 4 line, chapter ring, no chapter ring, pointed crown guards, normal crown guards. From what you've written it's a PCG, which would definitely be my preference. Also, if you can, chapter rings are a thing of beauty. Also, the radium glossy dials are harder to find in nice condition than the reds and thus they command a much higher premium. Some prefer the patina on tritium to that on radium.

7 October 2014, 02:01 AM	#13
jyan212 "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2014 Real Name: Jonathan Location: New York, NY Watch: 16750 matte dial Posts: 294	Gilt!

7 October 2014, 04:38 AM	#15
CrownMe "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2013 Real Name: Kevin Location: Maryland Watch: My Open 6 Posts: 3,433	Buy the one you like more. Both are great references.

7 October 2014, 04:48 AM	#16
1675-David "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Stockholm Posts: 6,060	I need a date window!

7 October 2014, 04:50 AM	#17
NukeMan "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2014 Real Name: Jonas Location: Stockholm, Sweden Posts: 988	Need to chime in on gilt!

7 October 2014, 05:39 AM	#18
Mike1066 "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: San Diego, CA Watch: 16600 Posts: 728	Gilt. __________________ V/R Mike

7 October 2014, 05:50 AM	#19
lhanddds Banned Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: USA Watch: of course Posts: 8,429	5512 gilt

7 October 2014, 05:55 AM	#20
foodle "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: USA Posts: 189	I'll go against the mainstream and vote for the red Sub. I like having the date, and the bit of red text on the dial just works for me.

7 October 2014, 10:15 AM	#21
miccro Banned Join Date: Jul 2014 Real Name: Mike Location: Connecticut Watch: 5513,1675,1680 Posts: 124	wasn't a decision for me. id been after a gilt for a while mike

7 October 2014, 11:31 AM	#23
EEParker "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2013 Real Name: Parker Location: Charlotte, NC Posts: 337	Gilt would be my choice. Love the way a no-date dial looks, especially the gilts.

7 October 2014, 12:53 PM	#24
MitchSteel "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Real Name: MDangerSteel Location: Canada Watch: Vintage Rolex Posts: 2,301	Gilt __________________ Card Carrying Member of the Global Association of Retro-Grouch-Curmudgeons Probability of survival is inversely proportional to the angle of arrival---Capt. Rage Don't believe anything in aviation, 'till V1---Mitch Danger Steel

7 October 2014, 01:22 PM	#25
soundserious "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: usofmfa Posts: 3,157	Huh? Seriously? Not a contest.

7 October 2014, 01:56 PM	#26
Kabayan "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Real Name: west kabayan Location: Jakarta Watch: Rolex, Patek, AP Posts: 54	5512 gilt.... Even the red subs is not easy to get either. But the gilt, is simply awesome Cheers,

7 October 2014, 02:56 PM	#30
The_Walrus "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Real Name: George Location: Sydney Watch: 5513 Posts: 1,104	A 2-liner 5512

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