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Wills.Perkins · 28 October 2014, 03:39 AM

Been looking for a 1675 for a while and this one has popped up

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/331356051079

It seems almost too good to be true at current price, I have contacted the seller and he says the watch is "100% original" and has box and papers included in sale. Also added that I have 14 days to return the item if not satisfied.

I have looked over for signs of it being a replica and only thing that stands out is the GMT hand and potentially the finish of the metal/gold. If it were gold would it have that unpolished grainy appearance? I did ask for a photo of the movement but seller did not address my request.

Thanks

Rockrolex · 28 October 2014, 03:50 AM

The seller has not sold any high end items. This is his first watch sale. The price is too low to be believed. I would stay away from this one.

bondtoys · 28 October 2014, 03:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rockrolex

The seller has not sold any high end items. This is his first watch sale. The price is too low to be believed. I would stay away from this one.

What RR says and re. the price:

It's an auction which ends in 16 hours. The price you can see will be higher at the end of the listing - if it's not removed in the meantime.

paulgjohnston · 28 October 2014, 03:58 AM

I always go with the "if something looks too good to be true it usually is"..tread carefully.

HogwldFLTR · 28 October 2014, 04:16 AM

Sometimes there are gems to be had a bargain prices; it does happen. Try contacting the seller and see what happens. If you go ahead pay with PayPal and credit card so you have a fall back position.

Dvenus11 · 28 October 2014, 04:23 AM

thats mad cheap

dysondiver · 28 October 2014, 04:28 AM

whats going on with the bracelet ends , and still got a sticker on the back , ??
look at the hole in the 11 lug , and the crown ,,, wonder where the lume from the 24hr hand is ,,,
no recent history on feedback , and what there is is all low dollar stuff ....
id be very wary , however ,,, why not arrange collection in person , be interesting to see where it ends.

Wills.Perkins · 28 October 2014, 08:15 AM

Well it has ebay protection on it and having studied it for some time I am 95% sure it's genuine. Will have a punt and if I win I will make sure to pay with CC and through paypal.
Cheers

FTX I · 28 October 2014, 08:18 AM

good luck.

MonBK · 28 October 2014, 08:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wills.Perkins

Well it has ebay protection on it and having studied it for some time I am 95% sure it's genuine. Will have a punt and if I win I will make sure to pay with CC and through paypal.
Cheers

Don't worry, at this price you won't get it.

fishingbear · 28 October 2014, 11:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by paulgjohnston

I always go with the "if something looks too good to be true it usually is"..tread carefully.

This. Be very careful.

Lgear080 · 28 October 2014, 12:48 PM

I believe pics are stolen

Tyl3r · 28 October 2014, 02:07 PM

How can this watch be priced too low? It's an auction listing. Any serious bidder knows it's best to bid as late as possible. Bidding early shows there is interest and draws more viewers. Also, you potentially raise the price on yourself. Best of luck.

ssultan · 28 October 2014, 03:00 PM

Couldn't sleep. Went back to look at the pics. There's something so darn attractive about this vintage piece.

psholtz · 28 October 2014, 03:26 PM

In fairness, it is an auction.

I don't think the quoted price is "here, buy it for this much".. I think it's just the latest bid that's been placed, and I'd expect to see that price start to sky-rocket as the auction draws to a close.

But indeed, be careful.

ssultan · 28 October 2014, 03:41 PM

I agree. And suspect the real flurry of bids will occur within the last 10 seconds as the snipes get triggered.

PhilipK · 28 October 2014, 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Lgear080

I believe pics are stolen

Where from? I couldn't find them using Google's image search facility ...

MonBK · 28 October 2014, 08:22 PM

Sold for €5,550

AK797 · 28 October 2014, 08:29 PM

Make sure the watch you get is exactly the one in the pics. Common scam.

MonBK · 28 October 2014, 08:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AK797

Make sure the watch you get is exactly the one in the pics. Common scam.

x2, I was tempted to bid but why go through all the hoopla.

PhilipK · 28 October 2014, 08:53 PM

My snipe was too low (but not by much).

Somebody's either got a real bargain or a major headache. Guess we may never know which :-(

fattoro · 28 October 2014, 09:07 PM

to be honest, i'd never buy a 5k gold rolex from a seller with only 29 feedbacks

linesiders · 28 October 2014, 10:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PhilipK

Somebody's either got a real bargain or a major headache. Guess we may never know which :-(

At least until the "Is the watch I bought on Ebay Authentic?" thread.

(disclaimer: I have done one of those threads as well ;) )

CrownMe · 28 October 2014, 10:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lgear080

I believe pics are stolen

What makes u think that?

watchcrank · 29 October 2014, 12:41 AM

Just be careful. Lots of stolen e bay accounts and to cheap to believe high end watches for sale. Never wire or Western Union (or similar) if you purchase. Use a credit card so you have some more protection for fraud. And ask why no one has purchased if BIN is low. M

gelroy · 29 October 2014, 01:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CrownMe

What makes u think that?

pics are from a well known German dealer Bachmann&Scher!

And although watch is located in Germany there is no shipping to Germany......

Lgear080 · 29 October 2014, 01:12 AM

I've seen them ... Elsewhere :)

A scam is a scam. I'll guarantee there is no watch.

PhilipK · 29 October 2014, 01:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gelroy

pics are from a well known German dealer Bachmann&Scher!

The Bachmann & Scher photos at http://www.bachmann-scher.de/cms/fro....php?idart=704 (which is the only gold 1675 Tiger Eye on their web site), although similar, have a number of differences from the watch which was on eBay - the date is set to 28th (the eBay auction is 18th); the 24 hour hand has its lume intact; and the case back sticker is more worn.

Or is there another Bachmann & Scher photo that you can point us to?

CrownMe · 29 October 2014, 01:42 AM

Good eye my friend ^^

Wills.Perkins · 29 October 2014, 03:31 AM

I was the one who won the auction.
I agree with all of you, the potential for this to be a scam is quite high. However I have taken the correct precaution paid using my credit card and through paypal. The item is covered under ebay money back guarantee and the seller is communicating with me. I did right click, search image in google and I couldn't find anything suspicious.

Way I see it is if it's no good the worst case is that I will have to mess about for a month getting my money back. However It could be a diamond in the rough and a good investment. Life is too short to play it safe all the time.

Will let you know how it goes.

28 October 2014, 03:39 AM	#1
Wills.Perkins "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2014 Real Name: Wills Location: York Watch: 321. Speedmaster Posts: 6	GMT 1675 find on ebay, too good to be true? Been looking for a 1675 for a while and this one has popped up http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/331356051079 It seems almost too good to be true at current price, I have contacted the seller and he says the watch is "100% original" and has box and papers included in sale. Also added that I have 14 days to return the item if not satisfied. I have looked over for signs of it being a replica and only thing that stands out is the GMT hand and potentially the finish of the metal/gold. If it were gold would it have that unpolished grainy appearance? I did ask for a photo of the movement but seller did not address my request. Thanks

28 October 2014, 03:50 AM	#2
Rockrolex TRF Moderator & 2024 SubLV41 Patron Join Date: May 2005 Real Name: God Location: Washington, D.C. Watch: What do you think? Posts: 37,942	The seller has not sold any high end items. This is his first watch sale. The price is too low to be believed. I would stay away from this one. __________________ Despite the high cost of living, it's still very popular. *Tosser Cabinet Member* Official Member: 'Perpetual 30' Vegas International GTG 2016 Official Member "WIS-CON" Las Vegas International GTG 2017 Official Member "WIS-CON" Las Vegas International GTG 2018 Official Member "WIS-CON" Las Vegas International GTG 2019

28 October 2014, 04:16 AM	#5
HogwldFLTR 2024 ROLEX SUBMARINER 41 Pledge Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Real Name: Lee Location: 42.48.45N70.48.48 Watch: Too many to list! Posts: 33,664	Sometimes there are gems to be had a bargain prices; it does happen. Try contacting the seller and see what happens. If you go ahead pay with PayPal and credit card so you have a fall back position. __________________ Troglodyte in residence! https://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=808599

28 October 2014, 03:58 AM	#4
paulgjohnston Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Real Name: Paul Location: scotland Posts: 149	I always go with the "if something looks too good to be true it usually is"..tread carefully.

28 October 2014, 04:23 AM	#6
Dvenus11 "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2014 Real Name: Sunny Location: Los Angeles Watch: GMT Master 2 Posts: 941	thats mad cheap

28 October 2014, 04:28 AM	#7
dysondiver "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Real Name: tom Location: northern ireland Watch: my fins Posts: 10,063	whats going on with the bracelet ends , and still got a sticker on the back , ?? look at the hole in the 11 lug , and the crown ,,, wonder where the lume from the 24hr hand is ,,, no recent history on feedback , and what there is is all low dollar stuff .... id be very wary , however ,,, why not arrange collection in person , be interesting to see where it ends.

28 October 2014, 08:15 AM	#8
Wills.Perkins "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2014 Real Name: Wills Location: York Watch: 321. Speedmaster Posts: 6	Well it has ebay protection on it and having studied it for some time I am 95% sure it's genuine. Will have a punt and if I win I will make sure to pay with CC and through paypal. Cheers

28 October 2014, 08:18 AM	#9
FTX I "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Real Name: Flavio Location: N/A Posts: 14,654	good luck.

28 October 2014, 12:48 PM	#12
Lgear080 Banned Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: NYC Posts: 3,506	I believe pics are stolen

28 October 2014, 02:07 PM	#13
Tyl3r "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2014 Real Name: Tyler Location: Long Island, NY Posts: 225	How can this watch be priced too low? It's an auction listing. Any serious bidder knows it's best to bid as late as possible. Bidding early shows there is interest and draws more viewers. Also, you potentially raise the price on yourself. Best of luck.

28 October 2014, 03:00 PM	#14
ssultan "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Real Name: Sameer Location: ON, Canada Watch: Submariner Posts: 718	Couldn't sleep. Went back to look at the pics. There's something so darn attractive about this vintage piece.

28 October 2014, 03:26 PM	#15
psholtz "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Los Angeles Watch: Speedy, Milgauss Posts: 194	In fairness, it is an auction. I don't think the quoted price is "here, buy it for this much".. I think it's just the latest bid that's been placed, and I'd expect to see that price start to sky-rocket as the auction draws to a close. But indeed, be careful.

28 October 2014, 03:41 PM	#16
ssultan "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Real Name: Sameer Location: ON, Canada Watch: Submariner Posts: 718	I agree. And suspect the real flurry of bids will occur within the last 10 seconds as the snipes get triggered.

28 October 2014, 08:22 PM	#18
MonBK Banned Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Kingstown Posts: 58,279	Sold for €5,550

28 October 2014, 08:29 PM	#19
AK797 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Real Name: Neil Location: UK Watch: ing ships roll in Posts: 59,368	Make sure the watch you get is exactly the one in the pics. Common scam.

28 October 2014, 08:53 PM	#21
PhilipK "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: England Posts: 10	My snipe was too low (but not by much). Somebody's either got a real bargain or a major headache. Guess we may never know which :-(

28 October 2014, 09:07 PM	#22
fattoro "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: Mother Earth Watch: small crown Posts: 20	to be honest, i'd never buy a 5k gold rolex from a seller with only 29 feedbacks

29 October 2014, 12:41 AM	#25
watchcrank "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Real Name: michael Location: Florida Watch: explorer II cream Posts: 1,664	Just be careful. Lots of stolen e bay accounts and to cheap to believe high end watches for sale. Never wire or Western Union (or similar) if you purchase. Use a credit card so you have some more protection for fraud. And ask why no one has purchased if BIN is low. M

29 October 2014, 01:12 AM	#27
Lgear080 Banned Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: NYC Posts: 3,506	I've seen them ... Elsewhere :) A scam is a scam. I'll guarantee there is no watch.

29 October 2014, 01:42 AM	#29
CrownMe "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2013 Real Name: Kevin Location: Maryland Watch: My Open 6 Posts: 3,433	Good eye my friend ^^

29 October 2014, 03:31 AM	#30
Wills.Perkins "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2014 Real Name: Wills Location: York Watch: 321. Speedmaster Posts: 6	I was the one who won the auction. I agree with all of you, the potential for this to be a scam is quite high. However I have taken the correct precaution paid using my credit card and through paypal. The item is covered under ebay money back guarantee and the seller is communicating with me. I did right click, search image in google and I couldn't find anything suspicious. Way I see it is if it's no good the worst case is that I will have to mess about for a month getting my money back. However It could be a diamond in the rough and a good investment. Life is too short to play it safe all the time. Will let you know how it goes.

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