Is this the real deal?

[cmcm3]

Does this Tudor Sub look like the real deal?

Info from seller goes along the lines of...

Tudor Oyster Prince Submariner stainless steel men's divers watch, cicra. 1965, ref.no. is 7928,
Case = stainless steel mid case is overall clean with some wear & scratches, numbers on both sides are clearly visable, not much been polished with original bevealing still visable on the lugs
Caseback = caseback has some wear, no rust or corrosion, all factory inscription is clearly visable, screw thread is nice & crisp
Crystal = acrylic crystal is clean without any wear
Dial = Tudor signed glossy finish dial with gilt writing has been restored in the past, all luminous marker is in an even yellowish patina, all writing is clean and visable, signed "swiss" at the bottom
Hands = tritium gold hands are in good condition without any wear, in matching yellowish patina
Bezel = bezel is in good condition with some minor wear, turn bi-directionally
Movement = Tudor signed Cal. 390 automatic movement is in good running condition; not recently timed, regulated, or pressure tested; not guarantee for waterproof or accuracy
Winding crown = original Rolex signed screw down winding crown works well, can wind and set time
Band = comes with a Rolex folded oyster bracelet 7836 in clean and tight condition, in 13 links, about 16 cm long
This is a getting rare and yet still under value vintage sport Rolex / Tudor watch.

[stevemulholland3]

crown guards should be more "pointy"
movement looks correct,can you get the serial number?
any pictures of the inside caseback?

[cmcm3]

yes, the serial number is 507270. Thanks!

[stevemulholland3]

here ,have a look at a real case.
http://cgi.ebay.com/Vintage-Rolex-Tu...QQcmdZViewItem
not saying the one your looking at is fake,but I didnt think that they used that style crown guards for your model,ran a search and found this one from my collection of trusted sellers.

[bagel]

5xxxxx serial should already have a round crown guard .... you may be able to find pointy crown guard at 3xxxxx to 4xxxxx serial only ....

[stevemulholland3]

Originally Posted by bagel

5xxxxx serial should already have a round crown guard .... you may be able to find pointy crown guard at 3xxxxx to 4xxxxx serial only ....

you may be right.

[bagel]

According to my database, the case of 7928 in general have 3 types as follows :

30xxxx serial ~ square crown guard
30xxxx to 4xxxxx serial ~ pointy crown guard
4xxxxxx and onward ~ round crown guard

Also, the year stamp of the pointy crown guard inside case back should be no later than 63 ....

[cmcm3]

so that sounds fairly promising eh?

[stevemulholland3]

Originally Posted by cmcm3

so that sounds fairly promising eh?

yes I am willing to say it looks good.what price are you paying?
good luck,
steve

[cmcm3]

I have emailed the guy, to see if his price is negotiable - I think he's currently asking £1,100, so ~$2,200. Seems reasonable I think.

[bagel]

Originally Posted by cmcm3

I have emailed the guy, to see if his price is negotiable - I think he's currently asking £1,100, so ~$2,200. Seems reasonable I think.

I think the asking price is fair ...

[cmcm3]

Reply to email was as follows. I've not bought much via internet/ebay etc so don't know how suspicious I should be, but my current suspicious-ometer is reading a +8, out of 10. Any advice happily received.
Hi,

"Right now I am in Bristol with more business (ocupated with a verry important construction project). I've always been on the road so I've barely used it. The Rolex It's in pristine condition! And comes with all original manuals and box. I packaged it back up a few weeks ago because it was just sitting there so it doesn't even have dust on it! The item is ready to be shipped. For shipping I prefere UPS standart.I will provide a Return Policy for 7 days! The total price is £1,200 ( shipping included ). For payment I prefere Moneygram because I have used in the past to send money to my son and I know how it works. So if you want to procced with the purchase please send me an e-mail with your name and address so I can make the shipment arrangements for you.
Thanks!!!"

[2careless]

Is it on ebay? If so, insist on using paypal.

[stevemulholland3]

I am a firm believer in paypal.unless I am picking up in person-its paypal only.

[Terry Newton]

I agree. With MoneyGram he can disappear with your money and you will never see a watch. This would make my crap detector go off in an instant.

Terry Newton

[toph]

Originally Posted by Terry Newton

I agree. With MoneyGram he can disappear with your money and you will never see a watch. This would make my crap detector go off in an instant.

Terry Newton

do not use moneygram!! if you send the money and you dont receive the watch you have nothing to fall back on- as Terry says your money may just vanish.



Paypal only