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Old 6 January 2015, 05:15 AM   #1
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Any suggestions for a reliable and affordable watch winder for my new Sub and older Datejust? Also, which direction should the the winder wind, or is bi-directional best?

Thanks for any advice, and Happy New Year to all!

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Old 6 January 2015, 05:18 AM   #2
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Wolf Designs watch winder is pretty good.
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Old 6 January 2015, 05:20 AM   #3
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Old 6 January 2015, 05:22 AM   #4
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I personally hate winders and I really dont see the use unless you have a very large collection. With that said Wolf Design is average. Orbita would be a top quality winder.
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Old 6 January 2015, 05:22 AM   #5
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Personally don't have the need for one but the two brands that seemed mentioned a lot are Wolfe and Orbita.

A search of the topic will bring up a ton of info...and debate.
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Old 6 January 2015, 06:20 AM   #6
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I personally hate winders.....
How is that even possible How can you hate something that always has your watch ready to go.....
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Old 6 January 2015, 06:36 AM   #7
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I have always used Wolfdesign winders. I had a triple and moved on to the 6 bay version. I like to grab a watch and go with no setting. Each bay can be individually programed.
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Old 6 January 2015, 06:41 AM   #8
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Brookstone make s very good affordable and programmable quad winder. Each head is programmable and bi or one directional. I own one and a Orbita for the last 20 years. Wolf is another good one.

I don't think there is any debate on the subject rather than opinions. Fact is, a quality programable winder will not hurt a movement.
I have more time with my TT Sub Rolex on a Orbita winder than I think anyone on the forum does. (19 years running constantly). After the 15 year mark for its first service ever and the movement was is excellent condition needing nothing than the typical routine service parts. That's non stop running for 15 years either on my wrist or on its Orbita winder! I should also mention, it didnt need any servicing at the 15 year mark but after many forum discussions on the matter, I decided to send my watch in for a routine service and have its results posted on the forum for empirical data on "delayed routine service" and "extensive watch winder use". It was well documented in previous threads.

Winders are great and my watch is kept in tip top condition.
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Old 6 January 2015, 06:47 AM   #9
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Any suggestions for a reliable and affordable watch winder for my new Sub and older Datejust? Also, which direction should the the winder wind, or is bi-directional best?

Thanks for any advice, and Happy New Year to all!

Cheers,
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For Rolex it needs to be bi-directional and set at 650 TPD.

Oooops, Orbita is the best.
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Old 6 January 2015, 06:48 AM   #10
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I have the rolex wonder and wolf design single winder, both are very good.
Having said that I don't use them very often!
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Old 6 January 2015, 06:55 AM   #11
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A brand called Rapport make beautiful quality watch winders.
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Old 6 January 2015, 06:55 AM   #12
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Orbita winders are good but $$$$. I personally use Wolf winders and have 12 of them currently. PM me and I can hook you up with an AD that can give you a nice discount.
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Old 6 January 2015, 07:07 AM   #13
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Wolf for me. Great balance between affordability and quality.
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Old 6 January 2015, 07:12 AM   #14
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Out of interest - why do Rolexes require bi-directional winders ?

If you have it on a uni-directional winder you'll damage the watch ?
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Old 6 January 2015, 07:21 AM   #15
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Out of interest - why do Rolexes require bi-directional winders ?

If you have it on a uni-directional winder you'll damage the watch ?
They don't *require* one. The movement can be wound in either direction which, when on the wrist, makes the watch more efficient at winding. Setting it to one direction or having a unidirectional winder will not harm the movement.

For example, the ETA 7750 only winds in the clockwise direction (thus the telltale "Valjoux Wobble"), but the ETA 2892 is bidirectional.
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Old 6 January 2015, 07:26 AM   #16
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For Rolex it needs to be bi-directional and set at 650 TPD.
For a Wolf bi-directional winder, that's the 325 TPD setting, right?
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Old 6 January 2015, 07:32 AM   #17
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For a Wolf bi-directional winder, that's the 325 TPD setting, right?
I believe Wolf increments by 50, so I'd go with 350. Side note - Daytonas require around 800 TPD... so for Wolf - bidirectional, set to 400.
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Old 6 January 2015, 07:47 AM   #18
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Remember to get a locking cuff. My watches have "base jumped" on their own in the past. I was sent a new larger cuff, and that has seemed to resolve the issue.

Honestly though, I haven't used it in a while, I just let my watches run down and set them when I am ready to wear. The most time consuming is my Omega AT, only because there is no quick set date. Even that takes about a minute at the longest... Good Luck...
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Old 6 January 2015, 09:03 AM   #19
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Now that I have 2 Subs, I am really glad I bought a winder. There seems to be a lot of anti-sentiment against winders, but I have never heard of a winder damaging a movement on this forum. What I have heard is many threads starting like this; "Was winding my Rolex this morning and something snapped, now the watch wont wind". My winder is a dust free environment for my watches, they are always fully wound and set to the right time, and if I have a day where I am either doing yard work or am sick I can choose not to wear any watch that day and they always remain ready to go. What is there not to like? BTW my winder can run on 2 D batteries which will last for nearly a year. This makes it convenient to lock the winder in my safe when I am not home.
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Old 6 January 2015, 09:44 AM   #20
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been using a winder for years....

here's a great website for info on what direction and how many tpd needed

http://orbita.com/2010_web/NEW/WatchDatabase.htm

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Watch Winders

I have a wolf viceroy 2.7 triple and set it to 350 bi-directional with a 42 hour delay for my DSSD, DJ, and wife's date.
Doesn't do much good for the manual winds though. They just nap in the storage area up top


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Old 6 January 2015, 10:58 AM   #22
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Old 6 January 2015, 11:28 AM   #23
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Been using an Orbita Sienna triple winder for my Breitling, Omega PO and SubC. Been no issues for over a year now.

Breitling requires single direction at 650 TPD and the Omega and Sub are 650 TPD Bi-Direction.

As someone already posted a link to Orbita's database, which is a GREAT resource for how many TPD you need for each watch. My Orbita can be programmed individual for TPD, however all three are on regardless of the setting which is the only drawback of my particular unit.

BTW: I am in the camp of "liking" a winder.......nough said I gues:-).
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Old 6 January 2015, 11:58 AM   #24
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I have heard that winders will actually extend the life of a movement vs. not being worn/winded. Is this true?
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Old 6 January 2015, 01:43 PM   #25
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Wolf Designs watch winder is pretty good.
Have always had very good luck with a Wolf myself too. They are affordable when compared to Orbita and no issues here.
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I have heard that winders will actually extend the life of a movement vs. not being worn/winded. Is this true?

No. This is open to debate among the experts but no one has convinced me the winders do anything for the movements. I would only get one if I had an annual/perpetual calendar so I don't have to set the thing all the time.
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How is that even possible How can you hate something that always has your watch ready to go.....

I have a few reasons:

1. They are not practical unless you have a large home safe and a winder that runs on batteries inside the safe. I don't have my watches displayed in the house. I don't find it safe.

2. I prefer to set the watch myself instead of having the watches run 24/7 just in case I want to use one of them. Although debatable I tend to believe that it puts more wear on the watches for no reason.

3. I like setting up my watches in the morning. It's kind of a bonding ritual. Call me crazy.

Again this is just my experience so some folks might find them useful. I had one and sold it after two weeks.
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