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10 January 2015, 12:49 AM | #1 |
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116506 - which watch winder
Hi All and Happy New Year.
I have just ordered my very first Rolex and Im very very excited (116506 - Rolex Platinum Daytona). Traded in my Pam 233K. As I am a manual worker I will only be wearing my Rolex at weekends so I understand to keep it in tip top condition I really need to invest in a watch winder. I have searched the internet but I am not really have much success, so I'm hoping someone on here can give me some sound advice. I have quite small wrists about 6.5 inches and the 116506 is a heavy watch. I understand the watch is bi-directional and needs about 800 turns every 12 hours so it needs to be programmable ? I am based in the UK. I will post some pictures of my beauty when she arrives in about 3 weeks time Cheers Steve |
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Congrats on that very significant timepiece
I'm sure there will be lots of suggestions, but remember that winders in the USA will run on a different voltage than in the UK. Guys need to be aware of that
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Your wrist. Really, it takes seconds to set a Rolex. Why the need for a watch winder?
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10 January 2015, 02:49 AM | #6 |
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lol-x - Thank you
Norbert - Thankyou for your responses - I am a manual worker and can't wear it on my wrist everyday hence why I'm asking the question. Alpino - The watch winder and watch will be kept in a safe - plus we don't have robbers in our neck of the woods lol :-) padi56 - I thought it was best to keep it going rather than keep winding it back up with the crown - I have read on many sites that it is best to keep it wound above 75% of its tension. I would still like to get a watch winder - any suggestions please |
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CONGRATS! I personally don't have any winders, I don't mind winding them when in and out of rotation.
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Congrats on a wowser of a watch. I used to have a winder but as Alpino mentioned I had it on the bedroom dresser and realized one day that it was quite a noticeable beacon to anyone breaking in. Now the winder is in storage and I hide the watches in a special way and just either wear in rotation or wind them and set them when needed. But if you have a safe place to put it then maybe its ok.
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If you're wearing the watch weekends only, then an autowinder seems to make sense to avoid the hassle of constantly having to reset it.
Interesting question, though -- is it better to let a Rolex unwind all the way down and sit stopped for weeks/months at a time? Or to keep it constantly wound using an autowinder? Which will cause the watch to need service faster? Common sense would say let it stop -- if it's not running then there's no friction on the bearings, etc, so it shouldn't "age". But is there an issue with the lubricant flowing out of the bearings if the gears aren't moving? -Dan |
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I am a non technical guy when talking about watch movements but I have been told the same thing sublover2166 :-) - several people had said try and keep it 3/4 wound at all times. Like I say i don't know whether this is fact or not ?
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winder or no winder, this has been beaten to death....look at orbita, heiden, wolfe, all quality products.
been using one for years never an issue.
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I'm an Eilux guy, owning two of those with multiple heads each, but for this particular watch and wearing habits, I think the best would be a battery operated, single-head winder that you can easily put in the safe Mon-Fri. Rolex makes its own winders (well, I suppose they only relabel them), why not pick one of those up?
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I use Scatalo, Wolf and Orbita winders. All are great options. Congrats on a great watch...been thinking about one myself!
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I believe the above is a Swiss Kubik
thanks for all your input - I will keep you updated |
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Buying a platinum Daytona from an AD, you could ask for a free Rolex winder.
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I bought an Orbita and am very happy. I own a swimming pool company so in the spring I may go 4-5 days without wearing my watch. If I do want to go out to dinner I want to avoid having to set the date 3 or so days ahead. That and it's fun to watch it slowly rotate then swing back and forth.
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Lordy, Lordy there is way too much misinformation on the web.
Facts are: A watch movement will wear out when it is running it won't wear out when it is not running. Engineering 101. The latest lubricants (and there are many) will not suddenly dry up or migrate from the bearings etc. when movements stops running. Winding automatic movements any more than a couple of turns to start them up not necessary as the auto winding mechanisms are very efficient. Contrary to some beliefs the automatic winder on a Rolex watch WILL wind it fully to the slip point of the mainspring. Even a 72 hr PR Daytona. No need to 'top up' as some say. Nice choice of model but myself prefer the YG and dial range. E. You also have a bonus with the Daytona as there is no date to set so that makes things even easier. Oh!!....x2 on the next post.
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My 2 cents = only get a winder for annual complications and above
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I'm in the same boat, wearing my watch just on the weekends. I use a winder just for the convenience, but since I have a milguass (no date obviously) maybe I should just let it wind down. I do have other cheaper automatics that I sometimes use it with too, but usually the rolex is in there since its in the safe.
I went with a wolf winder which was reasonably priced as I wasn't quite sure if I was going to use it or not. It runs off batteries in my safe and I have been happy with it. The batteries last a few months but wish it were a little better. Even if I don't bother using the winder it makes for a nice display case too. |
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@OP: it's probably enough to wear your watch in the evening when you get home.
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[QUOTE=Sublover2166;5527904]Are you by chance a CW21 Watchmaker? Can you show me proof that just the rotor alone will completely wind up a mainspring that has wound down and stopped.
You can check this yourself as I have. I wear my 14060 during weekdays. Each Friday evening at 4.30 I take it off and I wear a different watch over the weekend. The 14060 usually stops on Sunday afternoon at around 2.30 - 3.30 which give me a PR of around 46hr which is about the same result as a full wind. Why ask for proof when you can easily check this out for yourself? Daytona needs 60 full turns of the winding crown, no? My SS Daytona also fully winds on my wrist, yes! If the OP wishes to use a winder it is his prerogative. The anti watch winder Debbie downers here keep preaching to the choir. If you read the OP's first post you would see that he was looking for a watch winder based on his 'understanding' I was giving my opinion on this understanding which IMO is based on misinformation. I am not anti-watch winders in fact I sell watch winders and have some in stock. PM me if you want to purchase one. Please show me proof that a winder wears out a movement. The movement is made to run. You could just use some common sense here: On the basis that you have one Rolex watch and wear it every day Rolex recommend a service every 5 years. If you have a number of Rolex watches but you don't wear them often it will take you a lot longer to knock up 5 years of use. While a watch isn't running there is no wear taking place unless you put ot on a winder 24/7. The watch will need a service down the road regardless of whether it runs on a winder or sits idle and I betcha 9 times out of 10 the service cost and parts replacement will be the same. Some Rolex owners have their watches seviced every 5 years and others only have them serviced when something goes wrong or they stop altogether. In some cases this has been as much as 30 years. According to threads here on the Forum the service costs has been about the same in both cases. Search and you will find them. Some Rolex models have been purchased my members BNIB and have been more than 8 years old. The Forum concensus was not to service these 'old' models but just to wear them as new as the movements had 'never been run'. I guess you can also explain this to me?
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Your best, and most economical, option would be to invest in a good quality air guitar. When you get home from work, strap on your watch and play air guitar for fifteen minutes each night and that'll keep your watch going. Air drums work better in so far as you'll need less playing time to achieve the same effect. Conversely, if, like myself, you can't play air guitar and play air bass instead then you'll need about thirty minutes playing time per night.
Good luck in your choice of instrument and be sure to post some pics of your watch when it arrives |
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