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skippy1 · 8 February 2015, 01:13 AM

In my quest to become a one watch man (we can dream can't we) I have seriously been considering flipping what I own and buying a SeaDweller C 116600. This watch checks so many boxes for me on its way to being perfect : classic tapered lugs, matte dial, date with no Cyclops, beautiful fully graduated ceramic bezel, glide-lock clasp, raised crystal. The only things that worry me are the weight (165 grams is pretty heavy) and most of all the thickness. I wear a suit to work most days and am concerned about it sliding easily under a shirt cuff. I have tried the watch on at an AD but without having them actually size it for my wrist (which they seem less than keen to do) I can't tell if this will be a problem.

So, I have a question for the owners of this fine watch, especially those who wear a suit on a regular basis. Do you find the thickness of this watch to be a problem with some of the "dress" shirts you wear? I have had some watches in the past that I could not wear with certain shirts and would hate to have this happen again.

Thanks for all of the anticipated responses.

c.capt · 8 February 2015, 01:39 AM

No problems here at all. Of course it all depends on what kind of shirts you wear, etc. I had a few custom dress shirts made and specifically made the left cuff a bit wider than the right to accommodate a watch! Most of the dress shirts I wear are Charles Tyrwhitt, and I have no problem with those either. But again, depending on your build and the shirts you wear, this could all be different. Good luck, it's a great watch!

AS1 · 8 February 2015, 01:50 AM

I have a 116600 and have to say that it wouldn't work for 90% of my dress shirts because they are quite tapered and slim to the arm.

As Joe says, it depends on various factors and his suggestion of custom is obviously a great solution if that works for you.

Karbo · 8 February 2015, 01:54 AM

The perfect watch for a one watch man by a hundred miles

AK797 · 8 February 2015, 01:58 AM

165 grams is heavy? I don't have a Rolex that weighs within 50g of that anymore!

Go for it!

CabbageHead · 8 February 2015, 02:53 AM

Alright brother, just for you...

I wear bespoke shirts with my suits. I am tall, slim, and for me, it is a must. So the cuff may be a little more fitted than the norm, just FYI.

First up is the regular button cuff. Both cuffs are the same cut and sleeves the same length.

I like that the watch shows but in the future I will have the left sleeve shortened to prevent the sleeve from bunching. Its not a huge deal though.

Next up is a French Cuff shirt that was made with an extra 1/2 inch in the cuff to accommodate a larger watch. The watch fits snug and comfortable under the cuff. It does feel a bit odd at first if you aren't used to it. A good way to go if you if you want the SD4000 under the cuff.

Good luck and Congrats on the SD! Awesome watch!

Auragentum · 8 February 2015, 03:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AS1

I have a 116600 and have to say that it wouldn't work for 90% of my dress shirts because they are quite tapered and slim to the arm.

+1. Same goes for my shirts. I can just fit in my Sub-Cs, but the SD-C is a challenge.

Clay · 8 February 2015, 03:22 AM

I do not wear dress shirts, so I can't help you there...

But I did recently sell off my entire collection and have only one watch left...

It works for me...

sturgeon123456 · 8 February 2015, 03:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by skippy1

In my quest to become a one watch man (we can dream can't we) I have seriously been considering flipping what I own and buying a SeaDweller C 116600. This watch checks so many boxes for me on its way to being perfect : classic tapered lugs, matte dial, date with no Cyclops, beautiful fully graduated ceramic bezel, glide-lock clasp, raised crystal. The only things that worry me are the weight (165 grams is pretty heavy) and most of all the thickness. I wear a suit to work most days and am concerned about it sliding easily under a shirt cuff. I have tried the watch on at an AD but without having them actually size it for my wrist (which they seem less than keen to do) I can't tell if this will be a problem.

So, I have a question for the owners of this fine watch, especially those who wear a suit on a regular basis. Do you find the thickness of this watch to be a problem with some of the "dress" shirts you wear? I have had some watches in the past that I could not wear with certain shirts and would hate to have this happen again.

Thanks for all of the anticipated responses.

165 grams is pretty light for a sports watch these days, in fact there are many other brands out there that have watches on rubber that weigh more than this.

The watch can be worn everyday just like any other watch.

skippy1 · 8 February 2015, 05:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sturgeon123456

165 grams is pretty light for a sports watch these days, in fact there are many other brands out there that have watches on rubber that weigh more than this.

The watch can be worn everyday just like any other watch.

All,

Thanks for the many replies, I really appreciate a variety of opinions.
I think there is one thing I should clarify. I realize that in today's terms 165 grams is not all that heavy. I am merely thinking it might be top heavy with the small case-back surface that actually touches the wrist (which in turn may make it uncomfortable for long term wear or flop around a lot). So comfort is one of the things I'm curious about as well as how it fits under your traditional (say Brooks Brothers) dress shirt. From what I've read so far it seems that it might be a bit thick to easily slide under such a sleeve.

c.capt · 8 February 2015, 06:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by skippy1

All,

Thanks for the many replies, I really appreciate a variety of opinions.
I think there is one thing I should clarify. I realize that in today's terms 165 grams is not all that heavy. I am merely thinking it might be top heavy with the small case-back surface that actually touches the wrist (which in turn may make it uncomfortable for long term wear or flop around a lot). So comfort is one of the things I'm curious about as well as how it fits under your traditional (say Brooks Brothers) dress shirt. From what I've read so far it seems that it might be a bit thick to easily slide under such a sleeve.

You could always just measure the diameter or your personal shirt cuffs and then judge based on your wrist size plus the bracelet and case thickness of the SDc.

oneev · 8 February 2015, 06:23 AM

I think the weight is fine and the SDC is really comfortable for such a watch and it is not top heavy. The bracelet is very well made and the glide lock permits a perfect fit. Furthermore, it doesn't feel its thickness in daily wear and it is compact.
However, I would still not recommend it for a daily watch to be worn with a suit. Yes I can squeeze it under all my shirts but it's not in its element, specially not with a suit. So yes it can be done but in my opinion the SDC is not a good watch to wear with a suit, it would feel awkward for me. The Milgauss would be better for example.

Having said that, this new SDC is just the perfect sport and tool watch. It is beautiful, has perfect dimensions, excellent readability, very comfortable. It is the ultimate dive watch that can be worn in so many situations. But a suit is just not where it shines.
I highly recommend this watch, for me it is one of the most mythical watch Rolex ever made, build for a function and kept true to its origins until now. Can you afford to ear it only when not in a suit? If yes then go for it.

oneev · 8 February 2015, 06:29 AM

I think the weight is fine and the SDC is really comfortable for such a watch and it is not top heavy. The bracelet is very well made and the glide lock permits a perfect fit. Furthermore, it doesn't feel its thickness in daily wear and it is compact.
However, I would still not recommend it for a daily watch to be worn with a suit. Yes I can squeeze it under all my shirt sleeves but it's not in its element, specially not with a suit. So yes it can be done but in my opinion the SDC is not a good watch to wear with a suit, it would feel awkward for me. The Milgauss would be better for example.

Having said that, this new SDC is just the perfect sport and tool watch. It is beautiful, has perfect dimensions, excellent readability, very comfortable. It is the ultimate dive watch that can be worn in so many situations. But a suit is just not where it shines.
I highly recommend this watch, for me it is one of the most mythical watch Rolex ever made, build for a function and kept true to its origins til today. Can you afford to wear it only when not in a suit? If yes then go for it.

R Douglas · 8 February 2015, 11:33 AM

I was at the AD today, I tried on the SeaDweller 4000 and it's not that big (height) at all, I have a Sub-C, the images on the web are a bit deceiving, it wears very well, beautiful piece, it's all business, very tough looking.

sheldonsmith · 8 February 2015, 11:41 AM

I have had no problems with 15 1/2 - 32 shirts and the 116600. All works on both wrists.

Here's one image on the way to work

anothernewphone · 8 February 2015, 12:00 PM

I had the old Sea-Dweller, and it was legitimately the most uncomfortable watch I've ever worn. A lot of these modern dive watches are just too thick to look good in a suit-and-tie setting. That doesn't mean people won't still do it.

joejoe1225 · 8 February 2015, 01:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by karbo

the perfect watch for a one watch man by a hundred miles

x2.

DCheeta · 8 February 2015, 01:23 PM

Definitely the perfect watch for a one-watch man.

First, regarding top-heaviness - with the glidelock clasp you can achieve a perfect fit. It doesn't flop around on my wrist at all.

Second, regarding cuffs - If I'm wearing a suit I loosen the glidelock by one notch and wear the SD a little further up my wrist (in the direction of my elbow) so it doesn't compete with my shirt cuff at all. But I don't wear a suit every day.

And...a photo for temptation..

Afghanvet · 8 February 2015, 01:36 PM

No longer own a DSSD, but did at one time... the only reason why it can't be a daily wearer is because you don't allow it to be... an 116660 can certainly handle anything that us average humans can throw at it!

AIKO · 8 February 2015, 02:30 PM

I agree with the OP, the SD would be perfect. I tried it on twice in dress shirts ... Too thick, I have a Subc and exp2.

CabbageHead · 8 February 2015, 02:50 PM

As stated already, this is the one watch for a one watch man. If you can't fit it under your dress shirt's cuffs as they are, have a tailor move your buttons on your cuffs. If that is not a feasible options or there is not enough real estate to work with.. then have a few shirts made! The cost is reasonable considering the shirt is made for YOU and your watch will fit. Plus you will look and feel like a million bucks. Although I have not gone this route, made to measure shirts can be purchased online for the cost of a regular off the rack shirt. If you(not the OP but people in general) are going to drop close to or exceeding $10K on a watch then get some shirts to squeeze that bad boy under. You can't go wrong.

EricM · 8 February 2015, 03:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DCheeta

Definitely the perfect watch for a one-watch man.

First, regarding top-heaviness - with the glidelock clasp you can achieve a perfect fit. It doesn't flop around on my wrist at all.

Second, regarding cuffs - If I'm wearing a suit I loosen the glidelock by one notch and wear the SD a little further up my wrist (in the direction of my elbow) so it doesn't compete with my shirt cuff at all. But I don't wear a suit every day.

And...a photo for temptation..

Awesome looking watch. The more I see it the more I want one.

Eric

MelB · 5 April 2017, 12:04 PM

I understand your struggle to decide. I've owned 2 GMTIIs; Pepsi and BLNR. I just got the SD4000 and live both the SD and GMTII. Only issue is which one today. Now my quest begins in search of a new Daytona in SS.

subtona · 5 April 2017, 12:13 PM

Yes is my answer on this one.

LitzDoc · 5 April 2017, 12:47 PM

I have a Sd4000. I wear a sport coat every day. The watch where is well in this situation. When I order shirts I order the left cuff slightly larger than the right. On the shirts that I cannot do this I have a tailor simply move the button to make the left cuff a little larger. It takes five minutes and cost five bucks it's very easy.

Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

HoustonRoo · 5 April 2017, 12:49 PM

I wear my SD4K with suits all the time. It's a great watch. The King of Tool Watches.
Go for it and you'll be glad you did.

sensui · 5 April 2017, 12:51 PM

The guys above got it right. The SD4K imo is the most balanced modern Rolex 6 digit diver and the best one.....my thoughts are still reserved about the SD43. I'd say it's a great choice.

GB-man · 5 April 2017, 01:05 PM

Well this thread is 2 years old. Have to say skippy, you live in San Francisco and call it San Fran!?

8 February 2015, 01:13 AM	#1
skippy1 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: SanFran Posts: 92	Calling all SeaDweller Ceramic 116600 Owners In my quest to become a one watch man (we can dream can't we) I have seriously been considering flipping what I own and buying a SeaDweller C 116600. This watch checks so many boxes for me on its way to being perfect : classic tapered lugs, matte dial, date with no Cyclops, beautiful fully graduated ceramic bezel, glide-lock clasp, raised crystal. The only things that worry me are the weight (165 grams is pretty heavy) and most of all the thickness. I wear a suit to work most days and am concerned about it sliding easily under a shirt cuff. I have tried the watch on at an AD but without having them actually size it for my wrist (which they seem less than keen to do) I can't tell if this will be a problem. So, I have a question for the owners of this fine watch, especially those who wear a suit on a regular basis. Do you find the thickness of this watch to be a problem with some of the "dress" shirts you wear? I have had some watches in the past that I could not wear with certain shirts and would hate to have this happen again. Thanks for all of the anticipated responses.

8 February 2015, 01:39 AM	#2
c.capt "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Chicago, IL Watch: Hulk Sub Posts: 683	No problems here at all. Of course it all depends on what kind of shirts you wear, etc. I had a few custom dress shirts made and specifically made the left cuff a bit wider than the right to accommodate a watch! Most of the dress shirts I wear are Charles Tyrwhitt, and I have no problem with those either. But again, depending on your build and the shirts you wear, this could all be different. Good luck, it's a great watch! __________________ BALL EHC Airborne · EHC Black \| EBEL 1911 BTR Chrono \| GLASHÜTTE ORIGINAL Senator Navigator Panodate IWC Aquatimer 2000 \| OMEGA SMPc · SM PO 8500 · Speedmaster Apollo XI 35th · Speedmaster GSOTM ROLEX Datejust · Datejust II · Explorer II · Sea Dweller Ceramic 4000 · Submariner LVc \| TUDOR Black Shield

8 February 2015, 01:54 AM	#4
Karbo "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2011 Location: Paris, France Watch: Dayto/5164 Posts: 1,631	The perfect watch for a one watch man by a hundred miles __________________ IG : @aka_karbo

8 February 2015, 11:41 AM	#15
sheldonsmith 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Member 202♛ Posts: 1,815	I have had no problems with 15 1/2 - 32 shirts and the 116600. All works on both wrists. Here's one image on the way to work __________________

5 April 2017, 12:13 PM	#24
subtona "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Real Name: gus Location: East Coast Watch: APK & sometimes Y Posts: 26,543	Yes is my answer on this one. __________________

8 February 2015, 01:50 AM	#3
AS1 "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: NYC / Milan Watch: 6263 Posts: 3,938	I have a 116600 and have to say that it wouldn't work for 90% of my dress shirts because they are quite tapered and slim to the arm. As Joe says, it depends on various factors and his suggestion of custom is obviously a great solution if that works for you.

8 February 2015, 01:58 AM	#5
AK797 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Real Name: Neil Location: UK Watch: ing ships roll in Posts: 59,368	165 grams is heavy? I don't have a Rolex that weighs within 50g of that anymore! Go for it!

8 February 2015, 02:53 AM	#6
CabbageHead "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: Texas Posts: 369	Alright brother, just for you... I wear bespoke shirts with my suits. I am tall, slim, and for me, it is a must. So the cuff may be a little more fitted than the norm, just FYI. First up is the regular button cuff. Both cuffs are the same cut and sleeves the same length. I like that the watch shows but in the future I will have the left sleeve shortened to prevent the sleeve from bunching. Its not a huge deal though. Next up is a French Cuff shirt that was made with an extra 1/2 inch in the cuff to accommodate a larger watch. The watch fits snug and comfortable under the cuff. It does feel a bit odd at first if you aren't used to it. A good way to go if you if you want the SD4000 under the cuff. Good luck and Congrats on the SD! Awesome watch!

8 February 2015, 03:22 AM	#8
Clay Banned Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Up a tree Posts: 4,001	I do not wear dress shirts, so I can't help you there... But I did recently sell off my entire collection and have only one watch left... It works for me...

8 February 2015, 06:23 AM	#12
oneev "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: Europe Posts: 14	I think the weight is fine and the SDC is really comfortable for such a watch and it is not top heavy. The bracelet is very well made and the glide lock permits a perfect fit. Furthermore, it doesn't feel its thickness in daily wear and it is compact. However, I would still not recommend it for a daily watch to be worn with a suit. Yes I can squeeze it under all my shirts but it's not in its element, specially not with a suit. So yes it can be done but in my opinion the SDC is not a good watch to wear with a suit, it would feel awkward for me. The Milgauss would be better for example. Having said that, this new SDC is just the perfect sport and tool watch. It is beautiful, has perfect dimensions, excellent readability, very comfortable. It is the ultimate dive watch that can be worn in so many situations. But a suit is just not where it shines. I highly recommend this watch, for me it is one of the most mythical watch Rolex ever made, build for a function and kept true to its origins until now. Can you afford to ear it only when not in a suit? If yes then go for it.

8 February 2015, 11:33 AM	#14
R Douglas "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: Springfield Pa Watch: 114060 Posts: 234	I was at the AD today, I tried on the SeaDweller 4000 and it's not that big (height) at all, I have a Sub-C, the images on the web are a bit deceiving, it wears very well, beautiful piece, it's all business, very tough looking.

8 February 2015, 12:00 PM	#16
anothernewphone Banned Join Date: Feb 2013 Real Name: Bill Location: Plymouth Meeting Watch: 116520 Posts: 3,209	I had the old Sea-Dweller, and it was legitimately the most uncomfortable watch I've ever worn. A lot of these modern dive watches are just too thick to look good in a suit-and-tie setting. That doesn't mean people won't still do it.

8 February 2015, 01:23 PM	#18
DCheeta "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Real Name: Dave Location: NYC Posts: 7,181	Definitely the perfect watch for a one-watch man. First, regarding top-heaviness - with the glidelock clasp you can achieve a perfect fit. It doesn't flop around on my wrist at all. Second, regarding cuffs - If I'm wearing a suit I loosen the glidelock by one notch and wear the SD a little further up my wrist (in the direction of my elbow) so it doesn't compete with my shirt cuff at all. But I don't wear a suit every day. And...a photo for temptation..

8 February 2015, 01:36 PM	#19
Afghanvet "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: Virginia Watch: Subs, SD4K Posts: 2,272	No longer own a DSSD, but did at one time... the only reason why it can't be a daily wearer is because you don't allow it to be... an 116660 can certainly handle anything that us average humans can throw at it!

8 February 2015, 02:30 PM	#20
AIKO "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: South Carolina Posts: 1,937	I agree with the OP, the SD would be perfect. I tried it on twice in dress shirts ... Too thick, I have a Subc and exp2.

8 February 2015, 02:50 PM	#21
CabbageHead "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: Texas Posts: 369	As stated already, this is the one watch for a one watch man. If you can't fit it under your dress shirt's cuffs as they are, have a tailor move your buttons on your cuffs. If that is not a feasible options or there is not enough real estate to work with.. then have a few shirts made! The cost is reasonable considering the shirt is made for YOU and your watch will fit. Plus you will look and feel like a million bucks. Although I have not gone this route, made to measure shirts can be purchased online for the cost of a regular off the rack shirt. If you(not the OP but people in general) are going to drop close to or exceeding $10K on a watch then get some shirts to squeeze that bad boy under. You can't go wrong.

5 April 2017, 12:04 PM	#23
MelB "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2017 Location: Binghamton, NY Posts: 13	I understand your struggle to decide. I've owned 2 GMTIIs; Pepsi and BLNR. I just got the SD4000 and live both the SD and GMTII. Only issue is which one today. Now my quest begins in search of a new Daytona in SS.

5 April 2017, 12:47 PM	#25
LitzDoc "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2015 Location: Boston, Ma Posts: 443	I have a Sd4000. I wear a sport coat every day. The watch where is well in this situation. When I order shirts I order the left cuff slightly larger than the right. On the shirts that I cannot do this I have a tailor simply move the button to make the left cuff a little larger. It takes five minutes and cost five bucks it's very easy. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

5 April 2017, 12:49 PM	#26
HoustonRoo "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2016 Real Name: Matthew Location: Houston, TEXAS Watch: Sea Dweller 116600 Posts: 212	I wear my SD4K with suits all the time. It's a great watch. The King of Tool Watches. Go for it and you'll be glad you did.

5 April 2017, 12:51 PM	#27
sensui 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jan 2016 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 12,437	The guys above got it right. The SD4K imo is the most balanced modern Rolex 6 digit diver and the best one.....my thoughts are still reserved about the SD43. I'd say it's a great choice.

5 April 2017, 01:05 PM	#28
GB-man 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: USA Watch: addiction issues Posts: 37,320	Well this thread is 2 years old. Have to say skippy, you live in San Francisco and call it San Fran!?

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