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ar.parask13 · 16 April 2015, 08:33 AM

Hello all,

I am a new member of the forum I have tried to post before quite unsuccessfully!
Anyway to cut a long story sort, I have caught the bug of collecting automatic watches and especially chronographs.
My collection currently comprises from:
Omega speedmaster mark iV.5, ref. 176.0012
Omega speedmaster ref. 175.0043, dial ref. 3511.50
Tag Heuer 510.501/12
Tag Heuer Carrera Day Date 43mm (box & papers)
Seiko Ananta srq003j1 (box & papers)
Seiko 5 sports speed timer 6138
Raymond Weil Freelancer 2710-ST-2001(box & papers)
After some discussions with some collectors I have been persuaded that I should buy a Rolex to live the experience! I adore the polar explorer II and the 42mm would be ideal but too expensive for me. I currently have the opportunity to get a 16570 at a good price with no box or papers. It seems authentic and legit but I wouldn't like to be scammed. So I am asking all the experts of the forum if they think that the watch is authentic or not. Any information would be welcome.

Thank you all for your help!

DocJekl · 16 April 2015, 04:29 PM

I also have an S serial number Polar Explorer II from 1993, and yours looks legitimate - with same level of magnification in the cyclops over the date, and the same bracelet and clasp.

It's a great watch, and you should be able to get it for under $4K. A reasonable seller would allow you to confirm the movement is Rolex by taking off the back or taking it to a watchmaker. If the seller is a watchmaker or jeweler they should be able to certify it as genuine for you, if they are a reputable dealer that you trust.

The tritium lume is getting old on these, and my dial is not very bright at night. I have to let my eyes adjust to the dark and then put the watch about 4" from my good eye to read the time in the middle of the night. I'll probably let Rolex replace the dial and/or hands at the next service in 3 years, but it wont improve the value of the watch so it might not be worth doing that unless you plan to keep it forever (like me).

DocJekl · 16 April 2015, 04:33 PM

PS - the gears in the fakes usually look pink in color, and the fakes don't have the perlage finish on the bridges or plate like the real one in your photos.

ar.parask13 · 16 April 2015, 04:41 PM

Thank you.
The lume on this seems relatively white instead of forming patina like most of the tritium dials of the same age.
Could it be refinished? And if it is does it reduce the value of the watch?

crowncollection · 16 April 2015, 05:55 PM

Watch looks good to me

watchwatcher · 16 April 2015, 09:13 PM

Looks good to me, too.

16 April 2015, 04:29 PM	#2
DocJekl "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: Rocky Mountains Watch: SS Pepsi GMT II Posts: 246	I also have an S serial number Polar Explorer II from 1993, and yours looks legitimate - with same level of magnification in the cyclops over the date, and the same bracelet and clasp. It's a great watch, and you should be able to get it for under $4K. A reasonable seller would allow you to confirm the movement is Rolex by taking off the back or taking it to a watchmaker. If the seller is a watchmaker or jeweler they should be able to certify it as genuine for you, if they are a reputable dealer that you trust. The tritium lume is getting old on these, and my dial is not very bright at night. I have to let my eyes adjust to the dark and then put the watch about 4" from my good eye to read the time in the middle of the night. I'll probably let Rolex replace the dial and/or hands at the next service in 3 years, but it wont improve the value of the watch so it might not be worth doing that unless you plan to keep it forever (like me). __________________ ROLEX - GMT II BLRO Mk2 * Hulk * Sea Dweller 43 * Tudor BB Pepsi GMT OMEGA - Grey Side of the Moon * Speedmaster Pro Speedy Tuesday + 3570.50 + 3572.50 x2 + 145.022-76 * Speedmaster X-33 Solar Impulse LE * Titanium Planet Ocean 8500 and 9300 * Seamaster Pro Ceramic Chrono * Planet Ocean LM LE * Watchco 300 * 1962 Seamaster DeVille gold cap w/date + Seamaster manual

16 April 2015, 04:33 PM	#3
DocJekl "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: Rocky Mountains Watch: SS Pepsi GMT II Posts: 246	PS - the gears in the fakes usually look pink in color, and the fakes don't have the perlage finish on the bridges or plate like the real one in your photos. __________________ ROLEX - GMT II BLRO Mk2 * Hulk * Sea Dweller 43 * Tudor BB Pepsi GMT OMEGA - Grey Side of the Moon * Speedmaster Pro Speedy Tuesday + 3570.50 + 3572.50 x2 + 145.022-76 * Speedmaster X-33 Solar Impulse LE * Titanium Planet Ocean 8500 and 9300 * Seamaster Pro Ceramic Chrono * Planet Ocean LM LE * Watchco 300 * 1962 Seamaster DeVille gold cap w/date + Seamaster manual

16 April 2015, 04:41 PM	#4
ar.parask13 "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2015 Real Name: Aris Location: London, UK Posts: 191	Patina on dial? Thank you. The lume on this seems relatively white instead of forming patina like most of the tritium dials of the same age. Could it be refinished? And if it is does it reduce the value of the watch?

16 April 2015, 05:55 PM	#5
crowncollection "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Real Name: David Location: australia Posts: 20,215	Watch looks good to me __________________ watches many

16 April 2015, 09:13 PM	#6
watchwatcher "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Real Name: Larry Location: Kentucky Watch: Yes Posts: 35,002	Looks good to me, too.

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