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DOUBLE 0 SE7EN · 17 May 2015, 06:37 PM

As the title says thinking to trade my gmt with pam 423. My gmt is 7 years old, v series.. Pam is 1 year old and still in guarantee. The seller wants 1000$ on my gmt. What do you think? For a long time I am thinking to get a leather band watch and I really want a pam. But the size is 47 mm and it's not automatic, a manuel winding one and has a 3 day power reserve gauge. It is very in good condition like brand new .. Need your advices.. Thank you..

Choo Yao Chuen · 17 May 2015, 07:03 PM

Don't do it! You'll regret it later-:)

jernigan78 · 17 May 2015, 07:06 PM

I wouldn't do it. Never been a fan of Pam watches. Tried to like them, but can't. The size is too big, to me. The rolex will always be timeless and admired, and value will hold if that important to you. Your desire for the Pam will fade, and then you will be trying to flip it for another rolex. In my opinion, the really large watches are more of a fad. Some people disagree. But the rolex will always be perfect.

joli160 · 17 May 2015, 07:11 PM

Kaan, I would buy a leather strap with end links.
Lot cheaper and gives your GMT a complete new look. Something like below. Trading a Rolex for a Pam and pay does not strike me as a good deal

Singslinger · 17 May 2015, 07:54 PM

Panerai make some very nice watches so if you think the PAM would get more time on your wrist than the Rolex, then go for it.

Personally though, I would stick to the GMT 2.

Psmith · 17 May 2015, 08:45 PM

The trade would leave you with two Rolexes and a PAM (going by your signature) so I say go for it. Great to have some variety in the collection, plus the 423 will give you access to some strap fun. A manual winding PAM with a 3-day power reserve is a good thing

soho · 17 May 2015, 08:54 PM

Don't let the manual versus automatic deter you, but if you are apprehensive about the size of the PAM then pass.

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up2nogood · 17 May 2015, 08:55 PM

Ah, why not. You can always trade back if you don't like it.

AK797 · 17 May 2015, 09:18 PM

I've tried to like Pams but they don't do it for me, and that was back when I liked 42mm plus watches.

travisb · 17 May 2015, 09:22 PM

Since you'd still have your LVC, I say yes.
If you're good with the 47mm case (I know I am:smoking:), Panerai is a great option to have and strap shopping can be a lot of fun (and addictive).

nick c · 17 May 2015, 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Psmith

The trade would leave you with two Rolexes and a PAM (going by your signature) so I say go for it. Great to have some variety in the collection, plus the 423 will give you access to some strap fun. A manual winding PAM with a 3-day power reserve is a good thing

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brandrea · 17 May 2015, 09:54 PM

If the GMT isn't doing it for you anymore then I'd flip. Panerai make some very nice pieces IMO. You could also look at some of there sampler case sizes, unless you really want 47 mm

Chrispare · 17 May 2015, 09:57 PM

I would not do it but it is your decision !

Tudor66 · 18 May 2015, 12:11 AM

GMT and and PAM are both great watches, but I would put a rubber B strap on your GMT II-C, that will make a nice summer watch.

I stopped selling my stainless steel Rolex watches this year, so my vote is to keep the GMT, and look for other assets to sell if you really want the PAM

Good luck,

Watch This · 18 May 2015, 12:33 AM

I now own a BLNR and PAM 422 (423 with PR on back). I like the variety of owning both. Reduces the boredom and urge to flip. Manual wind is great, no worries. Keep the GMTIIC if you can. Best Rolex SS sports model out there IMHO. You'll miss it and want it back. I did. Twice.

423 is awesome although I prefer the PR on the back. With Panerais recent price drop, I don't think I would be inclined to add that much cash to the deal.

Panerai are unique and great. Don't let anyone tell you otherwise. Just speaking from personal experience, I would add a PAM to the collection rather than trade a piece as nice as the GMTIIC. Good luck with your decision.

tomcorkery · 18 May 2015, 12:45 AM

You still have the lvc so I would do it. Its a great watch. I have a 372, it is too big for me , but I just love it. Mostly wear it with a long sleeve shirt.

Tudor66 · 18 May 2015, 12:48 AM

I love this quote below in bold. I as well really want to own GMTIIC someday...

Quote:

Originally Posted by Watch This

..... Keep the GMTIIC if you can. Best Rolex SS sports model out there IMHO. You'll miss it and want it back. I did. Twice.

.....:

DOUBLE 0 SE7EN · 18 May 2015, 02:43 AM

I really love the look of my gmt, but the historic shape and the Patina look of the pam attracts me.. I am just curious about the second hand price of the pam, I mean if I get bored of it can I sell it at a price that I can get a gmt without giving any money on it.. I really loved the domed sapphir on it.. And the calf skin leather..

The pam 423 I want to buy:

And my gmt ( actual photo ) :

Fleetlord · 18 May 2015, 02:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DOUBLE 0 SE7EN

I.. I am just curious about the second hand price of the pam, I mean if I get bored of it can I sell it at a price that I can get a gmt without giving any money on it.. I really loved the domed sapphir on it.. And the calf skin leather..

The pam 423 I want to buy:

And my gmt ( actual photo ) :

This is why you don't trade ROLEX into Panerai...

If you want the Panerai...by all means get it. But if you must do so at the expense of a ROLEX....it's a BAD MOVE.

Buy the Pam when you don't have to trade a ROLEX for it..

watchwatcher · 18 May 2015, 03:05 AM

The Pam is a super nice looking watch...but I wouldn't trade a GMT2c for it. Add the Pam, and then if the GMT is no longer needed, sell it outright for cash.

soundserious · 18 May 2015, 03:16 AM

ugh terrible trade, get a new strap for your GMT but don't flush it for that

joesetx · 18 May 2015, 04:09 AM

That Panerai is going to depreciate a lot quicker than your GMT.

Steel28 · 18 May 2015, 04:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AK797

I've tried to like Pams but they don't do it for me, and that was back when I liked 42mm plus watches.

Same for me. Went through 3..

Great watches but can't compare to Rolex in terms of style, value and quality in my humble opinion.

xjeeunitx · 18 May 2015, 04:43 AM

I wouldn't pay more than $6500 for the Panerai. How much can you get if you sold the GMT separately? From there, do the math and see what's the better option for you.

I would never trade unless the "deal" is in my favor.

Thatguy · 18 May 2015, 04:55 AM

I have a subc and a Pam 422. I think it is a good combo.

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Cru Jones · 18 May 2015, 04:58 AM

Given your collection, I would trade to Panerai in a heartbeat in order to mix things up. You will need to decide if the 423 is the right option, though, with the PR on the dial (many PAM DNA purists aren't fans, but, if you love it, go for it).

jenniferjanef · 18 May 2015, 05:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cru Jones

Given your collection, I would trade to Panerai in a heartbeat in order to mix things up. You will need to decide if the 423 is the right option, though, with the PR on the dial (many PAM DNA purists aren't fans, but, if you love it, go for it).

Totally agree! Better still, check out 372.. Happy hunting! Good luck!

jen

nick c · 18 May 2015, 07:03 AM

372,422,423 all great

wilfreb · 18 May 2015, 07:08 AM

47mm??? No way

Brian Page · 18 May 2015, 07:09 AM

This will be a tough crowd to get support for the 423. I had a 422 and do miss it at times - it's a totally different thing of course... I liked the manual wind, it was my favorite PAM, good luck!

17 May 2015, 06:37 PM	#1
DOUBLE 0 SE7EN "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Real Name: KAAN Location: ISTANBUL Watch: Explorer-PAM233 Posts: 1,645	Thinking to trade my GMTIIc with PAM 423; What do you think? As the title says thinking to trade my gmt with pam 423. My gmt is 7 years old, v series.. Pam is 1 year old and still in guarantee. The seller wants 1000$ on my gmt. What do you think? For a long time I am thinking to get a leather band watch and I really want a pam. But the size is 47 mm and it's not automatic, a manuel winding one and has a 3 day power reserve gauge. It is very in good condition like brand new .. Need your advices.. Thank you..

17 May 2015, 08:45 PM	#6
Psmith "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Real Name: Clive Location: Exoplanet Watch: spring-driven Posts: 38,856	The trade would leave you with two Rolexes and a PAM (going by your signature) so I say go for it. Great to have some variety in the collection, plus the 423 will give you access to some strap fun. A manual winding PAM with a 3-day power reserve is a good thing __________________

18 May 2015, 12:11 AM	#14
Tudor66 "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Real Name: Al Location: California, USA Watch: GMT- Pepsi Posts: 3,462	GMT and and PAM are both great watches, but I would put a rubber B strap on your GMT II-C, that will make a nice summer watch. I stopped selling my stainless steel Rolex watches this year, so my vote is to keep the GMT, and look for other assets to sell if you really want the PAM Good luck, __________________ -NAWCC Member

17 May 2015, 07:03 PM	#2
Choo Yao Chuen "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: Taiwan Posts: 518	Don't do it! You'll regret it later-:)

17 May 2015, 07:06 PM	#3
jernigan78 "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: hawaii Posts: 175	I wouldn't do it. Never been a fan of Pam watches. Tried to like them, but can't. The size is too big, to me. The rolex will always be timeless and admired, and value will hold if that important to you. Your desire for the Pam will fade, and then you will be trying to flip it for another rolex. In my opinion, the really large watches are more of a fad. Some people disagree. But the rolex will always be perfect.

17 May 2015, 07:54 PM	#5
Singslinger "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: singapore Posts: 6,424	Panerai make some very nice watches so if you think the PAM would get more time on your wrist than the Rolex, then go for it. Personally though, I would stick to the GMT 2.

17 May 2015, 08:54 PM	#7
soho 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: May 2012 Location: Planet Earth Watch: Varies Posts: 2,055	Don't let the manual versus automatic deter you, but if you are apprehensive about the size of the PAM then pass. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

17 May 2015, 08:55 PM	#8
up2nogood "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Real Name: Alex Location: Sydney, Australia Watch: Idiot Savant Posts: 1,944	Ah, why not. You can always trade back if you don't like it.

17 May 2015, 09:18 PM	#9
AK797 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Real Name: Neil Location: UK Watch: ing ships roll in Posts: 59,368	I've tried to like Pams but they don't do it for me, and that was back when I liked 42mm plus watches.

17 May 2015, 09:22 PM	#10
travisb 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Real Name: Travis Location: FL / NYC Watch: Yes.. Posts: 33,402	Since you'd still have your LVC, I say yes. If you're good with the 47mm case (I know I am:smoking:), Panerai is a great option to have and strap shopping can be a lot of fun (and addictive).

17 May 2015, 09:54 PM	#12
brandrea 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Real Name: Brian (TBone) Location: canada Watch: es make me smile Posts: 77,711	If the GMT isn't doing it for you anymore then I'd flip. Panerai make some very nice pieces IMO. You could also look at some of there sampler case sizes, unless you really want 47 mm

17 May 2015, 09:57 PM	#13
Chrispare "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2014 Real Name: Chrisstian Location: Paris France Watch: Daytona SS Posts: 937	I would not do it but it is your decision !

18 May 2015, 12:33 AM	#15
Watch This Banned Join Date: Mar 2015 Location: In your head Watch: SS YMII Posts: 1,619	I now own a BLNR and PAM 422 (423 with PR on back). I like the variety of owning both. Reduces the boredom and urge to flip. Manual wind is great, no worries. Keep the GMTIIC if you can. Best Rolex SS sports model out there IMHO. You'll miss it and want it back. I did. Twice. 423 is awesome although I prefer the PR on the back. With Panerais recent price drop, I don't think I would be inclined to add that much cash to the deal. Panerai are unique and great. Don't let anyone tell you otherwise. Just speaking from personal experience, I would add a PAM to the collection rather than trade a piece as nice as the GMTIIC. Good luck with your decision.

18 May 2015, 12:45 AM	#16
tomcorkery "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Real Name: Tom Corkery Location: westchester ny Watch: ap ro 15400 Posts: 502	You still have the lvc so I would do it. Its a great watch. I have a 372, it is too big for me , but I just love it. Mostly wear it with a long sleeve shirt.

18 May 2015, 02:43 AM	#18
DOUBLE 0 SE7EN "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Real Name: KAAN Location: ISTANBUL Watch: Explorer-PAM233 Posts: 1,645	I really love the look of my gmt, but the historic shape and the Patina look of the pam attracts me.. I am just curious about the second hand price of the pam, I mean if I get bored of it can I sell it at a price that I can get a gmt without giving any money on it.. I really loved the domed sapphir on it.. And the calf skin leather.. The pam 423 I want to buy: And my gmt ( actual photo ) :

18 May 2015, 03:05 AM	#20
watchwatcher "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Real Name: Larry Location: Kentucky Watch: Yes Posts: 34,996	The Pam is a super nice looking watch...but I wouldn't trade a GMT2c for it. Add the Pam, and then if the GMT is no longer needed, sell it outright for cash.

18 May 2015, 03:16 AM	#21
soundserious "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: usofmfa Posts: 3,157	ugh terrible trade, get a new strap for your GMT but don't flush it for that

18 May 2015, 04:09 AM	#22
joesetx "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: Texas Posts: 67	That Panerai is going to depreciate a lot quicker than your GMT.

18 May 2015, 04:43 AM	#24
xjeeunitx 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 5,456	I wouldn't pay more than $6500 for the Panerai. How much can you get if you sold the GMT separately? From there, do the math and see what's the better option for you. I would never trade unless the "deal" is in my favor.

18 May 2015, 04:55 AM	#25
Thatguy "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Real Name: Wayne Location: California Watch: Rolex, PAM Posts: 3,302	I have a subc and a Pam 422. I think it is a good combo. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

18 May 2015, 04:58 AM	#26
Cru Jones 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Paris, France Posts: 35,243	Given your collection, I would trade to Panerai in a heartbeat in order to mix things up. You will need to decide if the 423 is the right option, though, with the PR on the dial (many PAM DNA purists aren't fans, but, if you love it, go for it).

18 May 2015, 07:08 AM	#29
wilfreb "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Miami Posts: 537	47mm??? No way

18 May 2015, 07:09 AM	#30
Brian Page "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: USA Posts: 6,623	This will be a tough crowd to get support for the 423. I had a 422 and do miss it at times - it's a totally different thing of course... I liked the manual wind, it was my favorite PAM, good luck!

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