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themast · 2 June 2015, 12:50 PM

Ok, I know that somehow this is a topic beaten to death... however, a couple of days ago I was at an AD and I noted that the BLRO that they had in the window had all the stickers on the side of the lugs partially peeled off.
I would say not like somebody removed and reapplied them, but like one had worn the watch for a few days and then returned it.

I did not ask, so I do not know whether the watch was really "pre-owned" or just showing some signs of the many people who tried it in the store.

The question is: would you pay full retail price for a piece in that conditions?

ps: I apologize, no pictures

tkerrmd · 2 June 2015, 12:56 PM

Absolutely not!!!!

AS1 · 2 June 2015, 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by tkerrmd

Absolutely not!!!!

what the doctor said...

watchnutty · 2 June 2015, 01:02 PM

bnib should imply such. unworn, brand new in box. all stickers in place.

Rogdogg · 2 June 2015, 01:05 PM

I wouldn't either, especially a PM piece of that price. It would have to be straight out of the coffin for me. Also, I wouldn't pay full retail for a PM piece anyway. There are good discounts to be had.

Muzz · 2 June 2015, 01:17 PM

That would be a pass unless there is a significant discount reflecting it's obvious used status.

kilyung · 2 June 2015, 01:21 PM

Depends on how much I can bargain off the price.

Andrés G · 2 June 2015, 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by kilyung

Depends on how much I can bargain off the price.

I agree.

JRT · 2 June 2015, 01:57 PM

I won't take any luxury timepieces on display (even in a perfect condition with all the stickers on) from AD except a reasonable discount offered. The PM (or TT) models are usually hard to sell compared to some hot SS models. But many people like to wear some expensive PM models in the AD places just for fun or pleasure.

rollee1 · 2 June 2015, 02:03 PM

Every piece of stickers should be sealed seamless, even if a corner peels 1/2mm that is the first sign of wrist time.
For a Rolex in an AD, totally unacceptable to be sold as new.
Not brand new baby

thomaspp · 2 June 2015, 02:05 PM

Not a big deal if watch is mint

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Kanawha · 2 June 2015, 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by kilyung

Depends on how much I can bargain off the price.

That right there!

jhe888 · 2 June 2015, 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by thomaspp

Not a big deal if watch is mint

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I agree. You expect the dealer to not allow anyone to touch it at all? Or to have a "sample only" example of a $27K watch? That is unreasonable.

havingagoodtime · 2 June 2015, 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by jhe888

I agree. You expect the dealer to not allow anyone to touch it at all? Or to have a "sample only" example of a $27K watch? That is unreasonable.

I completely agree with you, however, I believe the majority is speaking from their personal view on a potential next purchase. I doubt anyone (or WIS) wants to purchase a previously handled watch if they don't necessarily have to, especially when given the option.

Cru Jones · 2 June 2015, 07:09 PM

if it were pre-owned, the AD couldn't offer a new warranty card, right?

my guess is that the stickers were peeling due to use in the store....which hints at the model having sat at the AD for some time.

joli160 · 2 June 2015, 07:09 PM

Nice point to haggle over

Urosfan · 2 June 2015, 07:24 PM

If the price was hard to pass up I'd wouldn't care

HogwldFLTR · 2 June 2015, 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by kilyung

Depends on how much I can bargain off the price.

"The question is: would you pay full retail price for a piece in that conditions? "

That would imply, "No!"

I guess for me it would depend how available I found the watch. In this case it is a BLRO; how available are they at ADs? PM then a discount is in order likely anyway.

AK797 · 2 June 2015, 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Cru Jones

if it were pre-owned, the AD couldn't offer a new warranty card, right?

my guess is that the stickers were peeling due to use in the store....which hints at the model having sat at the AD for some time.

Yes if the warranty card is still open it is not pre-owned, however those stickers are on pretty tight so for it to have peeled means a fair bit of handling so I would use that to get a discount.

1William · 2 June 2015, 08:29 PM

Inspection for condition and negotiation.

travisb · 2 June 2015, 08:42 PM

Nope. I'd have them order in a fresh one.

Racerdj · 2 June 2015, 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by tkerrmd

Absolutely not!!!!

No way, period!

watchwatcher · 2 June 2015, 09:17 PM

To answer the question...no.

But, I wouldn't be opposed to using this as a bargaining chip if the condition was acceptable.

johneh · 2 June 2015, 11:15 PM

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Originally Posted by rollee1

Every piece of stickers should be sealed seamless, even if a corner peels 1/2mm that is the first sign of wrist time.
For a Rolex in an AD, totally unacceptable to be sold as new.

Absolutely ridiculous! How many BLROs (or any other PM model) do you think ADs have laying around? Do you honestly expect people to buy a watch without trying it on?

As for paying full price...No. But then again, I don't think anyone here would pay full price for a PM model in the first place.

mjclark32 · 2 June 2015, 11:19 PM

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Originally Posted by johneh

Absolutely ridiculous! How many BLROs (or any other PM model) do you think ADs have laying around? Do you honestly expect people to buy a watch without trying it on?

As for paying full price...No. But then again, I don't think anyone here would pay full price for a PM model in the first place.

Bingo

Alpino · 2 June 2015, 11:25 PM

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If I was this AD I would invest on Rolex tool 3773 ... no more TRF'ers questions after that

kilyung · 2 June 2015, 11:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Alpino

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If I was this AD I would invest on Rolex tool 3773 ... no more TRF'ers questions after that

Oh Lordy... now we'll get a bunch of questions about buying those stickers.

schwartz914 · 2 June 2015, 11:37 PM

sounds like they were selling a preowned watch

goldfixer21 · 2 June 2015, 11:40 PM

Wear it for a week...it'll look worse than that.

Mr DateJust · 3 June 2015, 12:17 AM

It sounds like a watch that has been bought and returned or has been handled a lot! If you can swing a massive discount on it then it might be worth it. Otherwise then no.

2 June 2015, 12:50 PM	#1
themast "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: US Posts: 2,707	A frivolous question Ok, I know that somehow this is a topic beaten to death... however, a couple of days ago I was at an AD and I noted that the BLRO that they had in the window had all the stickers on the side of the lugs partially peeled off. I would say not like somebody removed and reapplied them, but like one had worn the watch for a few days and then returned it. I did not ask, so I do not know whether the watch was really "pre-owned" or just showing some signs of the many people who tried it in the store. The question is: would you pay full retail price for a piece in that conditions? ps: I apologize, no pictures

2 June 2015, 01:05 PM	#5
Rogdogg 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Bangkok Posts: 6,124	I wouldn't either, especially a PM piece of that price. It would have to be straight out of the coffin for me. Also, I wouldn't pay full retail for a PM piece anyway. There are good discounts to be had. __________________ Nil Satis Nisi Optimum

2 June 2015, 02:03 PM	#10
rollee1 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2015 Real Name: Rollee Location: Boston Watch: it watching me Posts: 1,945	Every piece of stickers should be sealed seamless, even if a corner peels 1/2mm that is the first sign of wrist time. For a Rolex in an AD, totally unacceptable to be sold as new. Not brand new baby __________________ Time you enjoy wasting was not wasted

2 June 2015, 02:05 PM	#11
thomaspp "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: N/A Posts: 11,137	Not a big deal if watch is mint Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ Instagram: @watches_anonymous

2 June 2015, 07:09 PM	#16
joli160 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: NL Watch: Yachtmaster Posts: 14,737	Nice point to haggle over __________________ Day Date 18238, Yachtmaster 16622, Deepsea 116660, Submariner 116619, SkyD 326935, DJ 178271, DJ 69158, Yachtmaster 169622, GMT 116713LN, GMT 126711.

2 June 2015, 12:56 PM	#2
tkerrmd "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Real Name: Tom Location: In a race car! Watch: ME RACE PORSCHES Posts: 24,123	Absolutely not!!!!

2 June 2015, 01:02 PM	#4
watchnutty "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Florida Posts: 347	bnib should imply such. unworn, brand new in box. all stickers in place.

2 June 2015, 01:17 PM	#6
Muzz "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2014 Real Name: Steve Location: TO CAD, HCMC VN Watch: MP 18946 Posts: 7,292	That would be a pass unless there is a significant discount reflecting it's obvious used status.

2 June 2015, 01:21 PM	#7
kilyung 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Cave Watch: Sundial Posts: 33,940	Depends on how much I can bargain off the price.

2 June 2015, 01:57 PM	#9
JRT "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2015 Location: Taiwan Watch: Rolex BLNR Posts: 2,308	I won't take any luxury timepieces on display (even in a perfect condition with all the stickers on) from AD except a reasonable discount offered. The PM (or TT) models are usually hard to sell compared to some hot SS models. But many people like to wear some expensive PM models in the AD places just for fun or pleasure.

2 June 2015, 07:09 PM	#15
Cru Jones 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Paris, France Posts: 35,254	if it were pre-owned, the AD couldn't offer a new warranty card, right? my guess is that the stickers were peeling due to use in the store....which hints at the model having sat at the AD for some time.

2 June 2015, 07:24 PM	#17
Urosfan "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: NYC Watch: Me now Posts: 19,372	If the price was hard to pass up I'd wouldn't care

2 June 2015, 08:29 PM	#20
1William 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: North Carolina Watch: Rolex/Others Posts: 47,598	Inspection for condition and negotiation.

2 June 2015, 08:42 PM	#21
travisb 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Real Name: Travis Location: FL / NYC Watch: Yes.. Posts: 33,419	Nope. I'd have them order in a fresh one.

2 June 2015, 09:17 PM	#23
watchwatcher "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Real Name: Larry Location: Kentucky Watch: Yes Posts: 35,002	To answer the question...no. But, I wouldn't be opposed to using this as a bargaining chip if the condition was acceptable.

2 June 2015, 11:25 PM	#26
Alpino "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Paris Posts: 2,555	. If I was this AD I would invest on Rolex tool 3773 ... no more TRF'ers questions after that

2 June 2015, 11:37 PM	#28
schwartz914 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Real Name: David Location: NY Watch: Rolex Posts: 917	sounds like they were selling a preowned watch

2 June 2015, 11:40 PM	#29
goldfixer21 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Florida Posts: 805	Wear it for a week...it'll look worse than that.

3 June 2015, 12:17 AM	#30
Mr DateJust "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Glasgow, UK Watch: 16570 Posts: 909	It sounds like a watch that has been bought and returned or has been handled a lot! If you can swing a massive discount on it then it might be worth it. Otherwise then no.

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