Rolex Tudor Dials

[springer]

http://reviews.ebay.com/California-D...00000000821781

Here is a link to a tutorial on ebay regarding the "California" or Rolex dialed Tudor watch brand. He states "The "California Dial " Tudor watch in most cases has had it's dial refinished (not an uncommon practice with vintage watches) and has the ROLEX name prominently added to the face of the dial, something that wasn't there when it left the factory. To a purist, this practice has caused much debate both pro and con....."

Well here is my take on the "con" by the con...it is called trademark infringement, illegal and fraud. The watch dial indicates it is a Rolex brand watch, Tudor model. It is not, never will be because Rolex never made a model called Tudor.

The confusion can cause much consternation for the buyer, especially when they find out that their Tudor is not a Rolex, but a brand owned by Rolex and worth substantially less than a Rolex. Follow my next link to read about the problems one lady had with her Tudor Rolex purchase and the legal battle that ensued between the buyer and seller. It is clear that if the buyer knew what she was buying, she never would have completed the purchase. Although this did not involve a California dial, it did involve a Tudor that was misrepresented as a Rolex.

Much of the info provided by the ebay tutorial, is available in reference books detailing the history of Rolex.

My point here is, again, buyer beware and seller beware, especially if you have one and attempt to sell it. You could end-up refunding the purchaser, or worse, end-up with legal problems.

http://www.nosalvagewatch.com/QD%20Letters.htm

[stevemulholland3]

agree 100%,wow a lot of reading.my eyes are sore.
cheers

[springer]

Steve, It was nice seeing you finally got your Explorer. Wear it in good health, they're great watches.

[tudorman8276]

Thanks to you JP for the DETAILED info and review!!

AND, just as the author stated, he himself owns 2 of the Tudor California dialed Tud's.

I have a few and will continue to wear them accordingly and enjoy their beauty. SOMETIME, I hope to put together a collage of my collection and post it here on the forum......time is the culprit, however.

I beleive the Curators/Moderators should archive this thread for the forum Tudor collectors....FANTASTIC writing.

Stan.

[guydebordgame]

personally, I think its ok unless sellers fail to disclose that it is a redail, modified dial, or fake dial. A buyer should be able to buy a watch that says rolex on it if they want to, it would be petty for rolex to impede on these auctions that are redailed tudors which go for less than 1000 usually. this is just my personal opinion, i understand purists who would disagree... i just think its ok as long as people know what they are buying.

[stevemulholland3]

Originally Posted by guydebordgame

personally, I think its ok unless sellers fail to disclose that it is a redail, modified dial, or fake dial. A buyer should be able to buy a watch that says rolex on it if they want to, it would be petty for rolex to impede on these auctions that are redailed tudors which go for less than 1000 usually. this is just my personal opinion, i understand purists who would disagree... i just think its ok as long as people know what they are buying.

that is still trademark infringement.
and thanks for the comment john-I am really very pleased by the explorer II.
I see your sold pretty quick.

[springer]

Well, well guy, that's why there's a market for this stuff. Some people believe trademark infringement doesn't apply to them.

[Terry Newton]

Originally Posted by springer

Well, well guy, that's why there's a market for this stuff. Some people believe trademark infringement doesn't apply to them.

I agree. I report them because most of the sales I've seen do not disclose the conflict anyway which I believe is wrong. If someone wants it in their collection that's up to them but the general public does not have this knowledge. It's wrong, period, to sell it due to the trademark infringement.

Thanks John for posting this article.

Terry Newton