Rolex 1665 DRSD opinions please on Ebay

[Gina Marie]

I was looking at this DRSD and a couple of things jumped out at me.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/VINTAGE-ROLE...item56709f16d7

1)the paperwork seems off. Normally Rolex does a pretty decent job of centering the numbers in the box, right?
2)the numbers should be 4x6, right? On non-English paperwork, I have only ever seen 4x6 and on English paperwork I have seen 4x5. Wasn't there a big to do about someone in LA doing paperwork aka fullsetgate or paperworkgate?
3)I would think that this would come with the seahorse box, right? This box with the tear below the Rolex sign on the top sold on eBay a few weeks ago.
4)am I losing my eyesight or is this watch also polished? I can tell by the lug holes and the area around the escape valve. I think the term unpolished is overused....I would say that this is lightly polished....but clearly not underpolished.

Please let me know if I am too jaded or cynical. Thanks.

[Kingface66]

And not the only one he's got
http://m.ebay.com/itm/VINTAGE-ROLEX-...295?nav=SEARCH

[RLX-lvr]

Originally Posted by Gina Marie

I was looking at this DRSD and a couple of things jumped out at me.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/VINTAGE-ROLE...item56709f16d7

1)the paperwork seems off. Normally Rolex does a pretty decent job of centering the numbers in the box, right?
2)the numbers should be 4x6, right? On non-English paperwork, I have only ever seen 4x6 and on English paperwork I have seen 4x5. Wasn't there a big to do about someone in LA doing paperwork aka fullsetgate or paperworkgate?
3)I would think that this would come with the seahorse box, right? This box with the tear below the Rolex sign on the top sold on eBay a few weeks ago.
4)am I losing my eyesight or is this watch also polished? I can tell by the lug holes and the area around the escape valve. I think the term unpolished is overused....I would say that this is lightly polished....but clearly not underpolished.

Please let me know if I am too jaded or cynical. Thanks.

Correct on the fullsetgate. He was the guy. Still selling.

[swish77]

Definitely polished, despite what the listing says. (I'm not a paperwork guy, so I can't speak to that point, really, other than to say it doesn't look right.).

And an absurd price! I get it ... vintage Rolex sport models, especially red SDs and Subs, are going up in price, but $45K? Can we get real, please? It's ridiculous. And I'd expect much better photographs for something that's the price of a new BMW.

[J!m]

He has several red subs and seadwellers for sale... Most (amazingly) will full paperwork...

I get papers add value, but based on the (apparent) history with this guy, all paer credibility is lost. Assume all watches do not have papers. Then, as credibility has been lost, every detail of every watch must be scrutinized.

Not that I could afford these watches anyway, but I would not buy a pen from this guy!

[Kingface66]

Did someone mention pens??

http://www.ebay.com/itm/MONTBLANC-SK...item565ba143f3

[willang]

Originally Posted by Kingface66

Did someone mention pens??

http://www.ebay.com/itm/MONTBLANC-SK...item565ba143f3

Good one!

[stmoore]

Originally Posted by Gina Marie

1)the paperwork seems off. Normally Rolex does a pretty decent job of centering the numbers in the box, right?

2)the numbers should be 4x6, right? On non-English paperwork, I have only ever seen 4x6 and on English paperwork I have seen 4x5.

Did you ever figure out number 1 and 2?

[rodwatch69]

All of his paperwork are the 5 hole punches and all of them are on International Warranty's. This is incorrect. 5 hole on US papers only, 6 hole on International only.

People have argued that it "could" be correct, and even thought I do not agree, the fact that everything he sells is a full set and they are ALL 5 hole punches on International Warranty's, there is no way they are genuine and correct to the watches.

It just so happens he hails from the exact same place the previous alleged fraudster was working from tells me there is a connection and fishy.

I wouldnt touch one of his auctions with a 50 foot pole. I think they are all frankenwatches made up of parts and boxes and papers sourced from all over the place.

My 2 cents

[nsumner]

Seller has had previous issues with even remotely accurate descriptions, I'll leave it at that.