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acarriles · 14 December 2015, 08:08 AM

I want to get a traditional looking chrono, bi-compax, but with more modern dimensions. At this point, I am between the Girard Perregaux 1966 Chrono, or the AP Jules Audemars Gstaad Classic. The GP is 42mm and the AP 41mm, so not much difference there. Both have in-house movements, with an add-on chrono module, so again, both are similar there.

Besides the looks of the watch, it comes down to what you get for your money.
For about the same price, I can get the Girard Perregaux in 18K gold, but besides the brand not being up there with AP, the movement is not as nicely finished as the AP. The AP on the other hand is Titanium (vs 18K), but has a nicer (better?) movement ticking inside.

This particular GP has been discontinued, just like the AP, and both can be had at a very good discount BNIB. Which would you choose?

Hairdude1 · 14 December 2015, 08:14 AM

For overall styling I prefer the GP

AK797 · 14 December 2015, 09:43 AM

AP for me.

subtona · 14 December 2015, 09:51 AM

neither makes the cut for me, buy what you like not what you can get the best discount on or ultimately you may pay twice?

i like the look of the GP better but not a fan of a date on a chrono especially one that seems poorly located on the dial.

also the large numeral 12 is inexplicable.

Peterandwatches · 14 December 2015, 09:56 AM

Look at the Zenith chronograph classic.

WhatTheDeuce · 14 December 2015, 09:57 AM

Why are the 5 and 4 reversed on the GP?

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acarriles · 14 December 2015, 10:03 AM

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Why are the 5 and 4 reversed on the GP?

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Haha, good catch! Apparently this was a pre-production image and someone at GP got an earful for that! ;)

WhatTheDeuce · 14 December 2015, 10:06 AM

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Haha, good catch! Apparently this was a pre-production image and someone at GP got an earful for that! ;)

Besides that

, aesthetically, I like the GP over the AP. I don't know much about GP as a brand, though.

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PJ S · 14 December 2015, 10:54 AM

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…but besides the brand not being up there with AP, the movement is not as nicely finished as the AP. The AP on the other hand is Titanium (vs 18K), but has a nicer (better?) movement ticking inside.

Regarding GP not being up there with AP – completely disagree.
The movements are nice enough but not exactly fascinating, with the AP having the more interesting rotor, and the GP slightly better decorated.
Then again, unless you plan to wear it back to front, the novelty of the movement’s look will wane in a very short timeframe.

I’m not fussed on the AP’s crown being so low in the case profile, whereas the GP’s is inline with the pushers and more central.
Overall, with a date too, the GP makes a stronger case for itself, so long as you’re willing to be brand agnostic.

RHIII · 14 December 2015, 12:54 PM

It would be AP for me...

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7sins · 14 December 2015, 03:04 PM

Neither…the one RG pusher on the AP looks completely out of place.

fai9al · 14 December 2015, 05:05 PM

AP is more interesting piece for me and the colors just pop!

masterkiller · 14 December 2015, 05:08 PM

Out of the 2 I would choose the AP, but personally I would go for a Classic IWC Portuguese 7 Days, 42mm....

My fav is the White dialed with blue numerals and strap

With more money to spend...

bayerische · 14 December 2015, 07:16 PM

Tough one. Maybe the GP.

VICI · 15 December 2015, 03:06 AM

I like the AP more but the IWC is compelling

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jrs146 · 15 December 2015, 05:51 AM

Since we brought IWC into the mix- No it's not an AP... But it's beautifully designed, the finish on the movement is outstanding and the proportions are just right.

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Galion · 15 December 2015, 06:22 AM

AP always over GP

Abdullasaif · 15 December 2015, 06:50 AM

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Since we brought IWC into the mix- No it's not an AP... But it's beautifully designed, the finish on the movement is outstanding and the proportions are just right.

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Out of the 2 I would choose the AP, but personally I would go for a Classic IWC Portuguese 7 Days, 42mm....

My fav is the White dialed with blue numerals and strap

With more money to spend...

Honestly YES!

srvrf · 15 December 2015, 10:36 AM

The IWCs are of course beautiful, but the OP wants a Bicompax chronograph. For me it would come down to the GP because I don't have a PM piece yet and I prefer a date function. The GP seems to be very heavily discounted on the gray market right now so that would probably seal it for me.

acarriles · 15 December 2015, 10:53 AM

Thank you all for your comments and feedback! As you can see, it is indeed a difficult decision!

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The IWCs are of course beautiful, but the OP wants a Bicompax chronograph. For me it would come down to the GP because I don't have a PM piece yet and I prefer a date function. The GP seems to be very heavily discounted on the gray market right now so that would probably seal it for me.

Agree with this completely. As much as I liked the IWC, it is not a chrono, although it looks similar to one with the two sub-dials. I am thinking along the same lines regarding a PM piece... and the date... and the HEAVY discounts.

Watcheroo · 15 December 2015, 10:36 PM

That AP looks good. Do you have any wrist shots?

14 December 2015, 08:08 AM	#1
acarriles "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Houston Watch: Blue SS SkyDweller Posts: 411	Classic chronos... which would you choose? I want to get a traditional looking chrono, bi-compax, but with more modern dimensions. At this point, I am between the Girard Perregaux 1966 Chrono, or the AP Jules Audemars Gstaad Classic. The GP is 42mm and the AP 41mm, so not much difference there. Both have in-house movements, with an add-on chrono module, so again, both are similar there. Besides the looks of the watch, it comes down to what you get for your money. For about the same price, I can get the Girard Perregaux in 18K gold, but besides the brand not being up there with AP, the movement is not as nicely finished as the AP. The AP on the other hand is Titanium (vs 18K), but has a nicer (better?) movement ticking inside. This particular GP has been discontinued, just like the AP, and both can be had at a very good discount BNIB. Which would you choose? Attached Images

14 December 2015, 08:14 AM	#2
Hairdude1 "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Real Name: Alex Location: Chicago Watch: AP,PP, Rolex Posts: 37,156	For overall styling I prefer the GP __________________ Instagram: @Hairdude Watches in Collection 5070R, 5522A, 214270 MK1, 228238 16750, 26401, 5711, 116718, 116710LN, 116300, 16710"Coke", 372, 15300, 15703 (All Flipped) Official Member "Perpetual 30" Las Vegas GTG 2016 Official Member "WIS-CON" Las Vegas International GTG 2017 Official Member 'WIS-CON' Las Vegas Int'l GTG 2018

14 December 2015, 09:51 AM	#4
subtona 2025 Pledge Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Real Name: gus Location: East Coast Watch: APK & sometimes Y Posts: 26,744	neither makes the cut for me, buy what you like not what you can get the best discount on or ultimately you may pay twice? i like the look of the GP better but not a fan of a date on a chrono especially one that seems poorly located on the dial. also the large numeral 12 is inexplicable. __________________

14 December 2015, 09:57 AM	#6
WhatTheDeuce "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Real Name: Kyung Location: Anywhere? Watch: cha want... Posts: 4,488	Classic chronos... which would you choose? Why are the 5 and 4 reversed on the GP? Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk __________________ Instagram: @whatthedeuce_

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14 December 2015, 09:43 AM	#3
AK797 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Real Name: Neil Location: UK Watch: ing ships roll in Posts: 59,369	AP for me.

14 December 2015, 09:56 AM	#5
Peterandwatches "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: WA Watch: 5167/15400/Sub/JLC Posts: 1,023	Look at the Zenith chronograph classic.

14 December 2015, 12:54 PM	#10
RHIII Member Join Date: Jul 2014 Real Name: Roger Location: ... Watch: AP/Rolex/PP Posts: 6,309	It would be AP for me... Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

14 December 2015, 05:05 PM	#12
fai9al "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Jeddah, KSA Posts: 413	AP is more interesting piece for me and the colors just pop!

14 December 2015, 05:08 PM	#13
masterkiller "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Sweden Watch: Rolex, AP & PAM... Posts: 1,403	Out of the 2 I would choose the AP, but personally I would go for a Classic IWC Portuguese 7 Days, 42mm.... My fav is the White dialed with blue numerals and strap With more money to spend... __________________ Rolex - SubC... AP - Diver... Panerai - PAM380 Omega - Speedy PRO

14 December 2015, 07:16 PM	#14
bayerische "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Real Name: Andreas Location: Margaritaville Watch: Smurf Posts: 19,879	Tough one. Maybe the GP. __________________ Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man.

15 December 2015, 03:06 AM	#15
VICI "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2012 Real Name: Alex Location: Gotham City Watch: IG: Mr_Right_NYC Posts: 5,672	I like the AP more but the IWC is compelling Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

15 December 2015, 05:51 AM	#16
jrs146 "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Real Name: Josh Location: Lost in time Watch: Me Nae Nae Posts: 9,823	Since we brought IWC into the mix- No it's not an AP... But it's beautifully designed, the finish on the movement is outstanding and the proportions are just right. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ "Sometimes the songs that we hear are just songs of our own." -Jerome J. Garcia, Robert C. Hunter

15 December 2015, 06:22 AM	#17
Galion "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: PE - BR Posts: 558	AP always over GP

15 December 2015, 10:36 AM	#19
srvrf 2025 Pledge Member Join Date: Dec 2013 Real Name: Steve Location: Indiana Watch: PP/AP/VC Posts: 2,180	The IWCs are of course beautiful, but the OP wants a Bicompax chronograph. For me it would come down to the GP because I don't have a PM piece yet and I prefer a date function. The GP seems to be very heavily discounted on the gray market right now so that would probably seal it for me.

15 December 2015, 10:36 PM	#21
Watcheroo "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: USA Posts: 3,928	That AP looks good. Do you have any wrist shots?

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