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roadhog99 · 21 December 2015, 04:01 AM

Hi all

I was just looking at an article about vintage subs and how minor differences can make a big difference to value.

It got me thinking about the future collectability of modern subs and what might make a certain sub more collect able in the future.

We all know that modern subs are produced in far larger numbers and that LVs are produced in lower numbers than LNs, but I wonder if some manufacturing "quirks" will make some more collectable in years to come.

Things like the different in the "1000 = 300m" font on some LNs which doesn't seem to be that common, the change to a polished inner clasp.

What do people think??

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Bakasana · 21 December 2015, 04:04 AM

The last "modern" sub that has value increase potential for the coming years, or for the next 10-15, based on recent changes to the Sub, hands, dial, lugs, ceramic etc., is the 14060, specifically the ones that are 2 liners, with the clean look. The 4 liners as well, but IMO, those Subs, that ref., due to its modern feel but vintage aesthetic will be the Sub that will go up in price, in increments as the years go on.

dysondiver · 21 December 2015, 04:10 AM

buy them to wear , and you wont be disappointed ,,, too many about to be any sort of investment.
in my view the cut off point was sapphire crystal.

and this is from a man who could have bought two 5517s for 32 pounds sterling each.

landroverking · 21 December 2015, 04:19 AM

IMHO none.

Speed · 21 December 2015, 04:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dysondiver

buy them to wear , and you wont be disappointed ,,, too many about to be any sort of investment.
in my view the cut off point was sapphire crystal.

and this is from a man who could have bought two 5517s for 32 pounds sterling each.

Agreed.

Ouch! 32 pounds! 😭

Black Bay Dan · 21 December 2015, 04:33 AM

I don't think modern (Maxi Case) Submariners will be collectable in the future. A bit like Chris Bangle BMW's.

Dan

Seaswirl · 21 December 2015, 04:41 AM

I would think none would be collectible given the volumes produced, but, then again, it still amazes me how much certain Rolex from the '80s are going for.

beshannon · 21 December 2015, 04:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by roadhog99

What do people think??

That there are far too many to be "collectible".

I collect what I want to wear.

brettpaul · 21 December 2015, 04:48 AM

Maybe the 16610LV but not much else IMHO....too many produced.

Mr. K · 21 December 2015, 04:58 AM

I am sure at some point all my modern sub-c watches will be collectible. But probably not in my lifetime and maybe not in my daughter's lifetime. But yes one day. If I keep all the box an papers.

crowncollection · 21 December 2015, 05:03 AM

Not in our lifetime there just too many made these days

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WatchinMD · 21 December 2015, 05:56 AM

Just wear and enjoy

Rolex addict · 21 December 2015, 06:06 AM

There's only one solution. Buy two of everything. Wear one and keep the other in a safe until you're so old you can't remember why you bought them. Yes, I'm joking. Yes, this is sarcasm.

waQstar · 21 December 2015, 06:23 AM

All the so called uglies of today will be the uber rare of tomorrow.

Daytonaman799 · 21 December 2015, 06:44 AM

I think only the 'specials' like the Panama Canal commemorative, the RN Ckearance Diver DSSD, the Somazzatori, etc. You just don't have as many nuances in manufacturing as you used to and the production numbers are much higher.

Abdullasaif · 21 December 2015, 06:48 AM

Can't see any modern Rolex sub without factory diamonds being collectible

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Etschell · 21 December 2015, 06:49 AM

Any sub c with low and bad magnification.

tjjma · 21 December 2015, 07:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Air King Dan

I don't think modern (Maxi Case) Submariners will be collectable in the future. A bit like Chris Bangle BMW's.

Dan

Well I don't know about the modern maxi case subs, but I do agree with your comment on Chris Bangle's BMW designs.

DeeTee · 21 December 2015, 08:33 AM

The LV and Smurf will be sought after in a few decades.

dlack · 21 December 2015, 08:48 AM

Buy them to wear and enjoy them. They'll appreciate to a degree or will at least keep their value (as would any Patek and a few other high-end names); however, investment-wise, unless you're a professional dealer in vintage sports-model Rolexes, you're unlikely to get rich just by hanging on to one or two for 30 or more years!

Chadridv · 21 December 2015, 09:53 AM

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think the OP is implying that he (assuming roadhogg is a he) will only buy and/or enjoy a watch if it is in fact "collectable".

It's an interesting topic and conversation even if answer is, "No, modern subs will not be collectable".

All of these, "just buy to wear and enjoy" remarks are of course good intentioned and good advice, but kind of off track.

Sublovin · 21 December 2015, 10:16 AM

Cracks me up all of the people definitively saying"no"....how the hell do you know?
I'm sure in the 80's people never imagined that the old plastic crystal watches would become more valuable than the new improved sapphire.
Oh yeah, and how about the 1990's air cooled Porsches that are already selling for more than they did new....

21 December 2015, 04:01 AM	#1
roadhog99 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Uk Posts: 37	Future collectability of modern subs Hi all I was just looking at an article about vintage subs and how minor differences can make a big difference to value. It got me thinking about the future collectability of modern subs and what might make a certain sub more collect able in the future. We all know that modern subs are produced in far larger numbers and that LVs are produced in lower numbers than LNs, but I wonder if some manufacturing "quirks" will make some more collectable in years to come. Things like the different in the "1000 = 300m" font on some LNs which doesn't seem to be that common, the change to a polished inner clasp. What do people think?? Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

21 December 2015, 04:33 AM	#6
Black Bay Dan 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Real Name: Dan Location: Chichester Watch: Tudor Black Bay Posts: 1,600	I don't think modern (Maxi Case) Submariners will be collectable in the future. A bit like Chris Bangle BMW's. Dan __________________ Tudor Heritage Black Bay 79220R (2015) Tudor Black Bay GMT 79830RB (2022) Tudor Black Bay Fifty-Eight 79030B (2023)

21 December 2015, 04:48 AM	#9
brettpaul "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Real Name: Brett Location: Bahrain, Dubai Watch: Rolex and AP Posts: 5,538	Maybe the 16610LV but not much else IMHO....too many produced. __________________ Photostream on Instagram brett_in_bahrain

21 December 2015, 05:03 AM	#11
crowncollection "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Real Name: David Location: australia Posts: 20,247	Not in our lifetime there just too many made these days Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ watches many

21 December 2015, 06:23 AM	#14
waQstar "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Real Name: Walter A. Location: Sunny California Watch: 16760 Posts: 2,629	All the so called uglies of today will be the uber rare of tomorrow. __________________ Our shadows taller than our soul........

21 December 2015, 04:04 AM	#2
Bakasana Banned Join Date: Sep 2014 Location: Greenwich Village Posts: 588	The last "modern" sub that has value increase potential for the coming years, or for the next 10-15, based on recent changes to the Sub, hands, dial, lugs, ceramic etc., is the 14060, specifically the ones that are 2 liners, with the clean look. The 4 liners as well, but IMO, those Subs, that ref., due to its modern feel but vintage aesthetic will be the Sub that will go up in price, in increments as the years go on.

21 December 2015, 04:10 AM	#3
dysondiver "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Real Name: tom Location: northern ireland Watch: my fins Posts: 10,062	buy them to wear , and you wont be disappointed ,,, too many about to be any sort of investment. in my view the cut off point was sapphire crystal. and this is from a man who could have bought two 5517s for 32 pounds sterling each.

21 December 2015, 04:19 AM	#4
landroverking "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Real Name: Jay Location: TEXAS Watch: Daytona Posts: 7,648	IMHO none.

21 December 2015, 04:41 AM	#7
Seaswirl "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: NYC Posts: 1,761	I would think none would be collectible given the volumes produced, but, then again, it still amazes me how much certain Rolex from the '80s are going for.

21 December 2015, 04:58 AM	#10
Mr. K "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2005 Real Name: Mark Location: Seattle-ish Posts: 6,090	I am sure at some point all my modern sub-c watches will be collectible. But probably not in my lifetime and maybe not in my daughter's lifetime. But yes one day. If I keep all the box an papers.

21 December 2015, 05:56 AM	#12
WatchinMD "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2014 Real Name: Larry Location: Maryland Watch: Saxonia Moonphase Posts: 3,428	Just wear and enjoy

21 December 2015, 06:06 AM	#13
Rolex addict Banned Join Date: Oct 2014 Real Name: The Enabler Location: South Cackalacky Watch: me crash my bike Posts: 5,564	There's only one solution. Buy two of everything. Wear one and keep the other in a safe until you're so old you can't remember why you bought them. Yes, I'm joking. Yes, this is sarcasm.

21 December 2015, 06:44 AM	#15
Daytonaman799 2025 Pledge Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: NYC/South Fl Watch: Rolex, Patek Posts: 3,734	I think only the 'specials' like the Panama Canal commemorative, the RN Ckearance Diver DSSD, the Somazzatori, etc. You just don't have as many nuances in manufacturing as you used to and the production numbers are much higher.

21 December 2015, 06:48 AM	#16
Abdullasaif "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: Dubai Watch: bipolar Posts: 2,854	Can't see any modern Rolex sub without factory diamonds being collectible Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

21 December 2015, 06:49 AM	#17
Etschell "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: FL Watch: platinum sub Posts: 15,884	Any sub c with low and bad magnification.

21 December 2015, 08:33 AM	#19
DeeTee "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: Los Angeles Watch: Netflix Posts: 3,977	The LV and Smurf will be sought after in a few decades.

21 December 2015, 08:48 AM	#20
dlack "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Toronto Posts: 191	Buy them to wear and enjoy them. They'll appreciate to a degree or will at least keep their value (as would any Patek and a few other high-end names); however, investment-wise, unless you're a professional dealer in vintage sports-model Rolexes, you're unlikely to get rich just by hanging on to one or two for 30 or more years! __________________ "Hey sweetie, that a new watch you're wearing?".... "No hun, got this one A-G-E-S ago."

21 December 2015, 09:53 AM	#21
Chadridv "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2014 Real Name: Chadri Location: LI, NY Watch: 116610LV Posts: 11,358	Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think the OP is implying that he (assuming roadhogg is a he) will only buy and/or enjoy a watch if it is in fact "collectable". It's an interesting topic and conversation even if answer is, "No, modern subs will not be collectable". All of these, "just buy to wear and enjoy" remarks are of course good intentioned and good advice, but kind of off track.

21 December 2015, 10:16 AM	#22
Sublovin "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: USA Watch: Lots Posts: 4,608	Cracks me up all of the people definitively saying"no"....how the hell do you know? I'm sure in the 80's people never imagined that the old plastic crystal watches would become more valuable than the new improved sapphire. Oh yeah, and how about the 1990's air cooled Porsches that are already selling for more than they did new....

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