Manual wind speedies....comments?

[petah]

As of late, i have been infatuated with the original moon watch but the problem is that they are all manual winds, not autos. Anyone own this timepiece and found it to be a pain to be winding your watch every morning? Also, are there mechanisms to protect you from over winding the watch? Any comments will be welcomed.

Thanks.

[Ursa Major]

If you wind it every morning, it only takes 10 or 15 seconds. It's not that painful. It's a decent watch to wear occasionally, too, since you can just wind it and set the time, rather than setting the date, making sure the 24 hr hand is correct, etc. I believe there's a clutch that prevents overwinding. The Omega manual doesn't have any warnings about limiting the number of turns.

[doc_colton]

I'm not sure if there is a clutch to prevent overwinding or not. When I wind my Speedmaster Pro, you know when it's fully wound because you come to a point where you feel resistance. I stop at that point, don't know what would happen if you kept on forcing it, don't want to know....

Windings no problem, the thing that I don't like is that the movement isn't hackable, you got to fiddle around with it to accurately set the time. But I can live with it.

[Tools]

There is no clutch, you wind until it physically stops...Usually ~50 winds from dead stop or ~26 each morning..

If you get in the routine of picking it up and winding while you walk out of the bedroom/whatever, it is usually wound fully before you hit the next room and on your wrist..

There is probably no good reason to keep this piece a manual except for tradition and the heavy marketing as the "moon watch" this watch sees. You know, the Speedy does come in an auto movement, just not the 1861/1863, but the respectible Omega 3606 (ETA/Valjoux 7751).

[Ursa Major]

Duh, of course it stops when it's wound. I stand corrected. I'm used to winding the auto's, I don't wear the Speedy much.

[doc_colton]

Originally Posted by Tools

There is probably no good reason to keep this piece a manual except for tradition and the heavy marketing as the "moon watch" this watch sees. You know, the Speedy does come in an auto movement, just not the 1861/1863, but the respectible Omega 3606 (ETA/Valjoux 7751).

I agree, they had this at Basel this year, a CoAxial Sapphire Sandwich. I'd buy this watch........


b4.jpg[

[RW16610]

Manual wind is a hit with collectors. Thing is for those who love to play with their watches all the time it is great fun. For me though I like not having to un screw my crowns all the time.

[DeepSeaWatches]

Manual winds are great, there's more of a connection many times between you and the watch when you wind it each day...

[petah]

Thanks for all the replies. I did not know that they will have a auto with classic design/look. Maybe i will wait until that is released.

Thanks.

[RW16610]

Totally your call, and that is easier for daily use but winding is fun espectially if you have a collection to pick from so you do not have to use a manual wind all the time.

[petah]

Problem is that this piece only comes in a 40mm format and has all the date functions which i don't like. I prefer the look of the original moon watch, which will be ideal if it was self-winding.

Originally Posted by Tools

The Speedy does come in an auto movement, just not the 1861/1863, but the respectible Omega 3606 (ETA/Valjoux 7751).

[applebook]

Manual-winding movements generally have fewer parts, are simpler, and can be more rugged.

[darron]

Do any of you like the moonwatch moonphase: 3576.50.00. I like the concept of a manual, but then again never owned one. Do you have to pull out the crown to wind? That would be more annoying, then just winding. This would be a daily wearer, except maybe not on the weekends. I don't see a lot of forum traffic on this watch. Do most collectors only like the original?

[SLRdude]

Originally Posted by RW16610

Manual wind is a hit with collectors. Thing is for those who love to play with their watches all the time it is great fun. For me though I like not having to un screw my crowns all the time.

The Speedmaster Professional does not have a screw in crown.

I for one don't mind winding it. I do it every other night before I go to bed.
Truth is that if I could have just one watch for ever, this would be the one.

[miner]

This is the most comfortable watch I own





You would have to have no feeling in your fingers to overwind it, you just grip the crown between your thumb and index finger with just enough pressure to turn the crown then keep winding until the crown slips between your fingers, 50 winds when its completely stopped then 20 a day.

[RW16610]

Originally Posted by SLRdude

The Speedmaster Professional does not have a screw in crown.

I for one don't mind winding it. I do it every other night before I go to bed.
Truth is that if I could have just one watch for ever, this would be the one.

Yes I do not own one hints why I said "my" crowns on the watches. Screw down crown is just a prefrence of mine. Winding is not too big deal but Automatic is my thing for daily wear more so

Originally Posted by miner

This is the most comfortable watch I own
You would have to have no feeling in your fingers to overwind it, you just grip the crown between your thumb and index finger with just enough pressure to turn the crown then keep winding until the crown slips between your fingers, 50 winds when its completely stopped then 20 a day.

Love how the back of that watch looks.

[Paulie]

For my 1967 Cal 321, I give it 13 winds in the morning, then a few turns throughout the day. Given that you don't have to pull out the crown to wind it, it's really no hardship. And it's a wonderful feeling having to wind life into a watch, it really connects you.

My poor 16710 spends quite a bit of time on a winder. That's the one downside to owning this piece of history; you can't take it off.

[jasper]

I wore my Speedmaster every single day for 12 years and I downright looked forward to winding it every morning. One of the highlights of my day...which tells you how exciting my life is (j/k...sort of). Now I have a full auto GMT I kind of miss the connection. It almost doesn't feel right just strapping the watch on without anything more than a glance at the time.

When I get back to the UK next week the GMT is going in for a full service and I'll daily wear the speedmaster for a few months. I'll miss the GMT though..

[RW16610]

Originally Posted by Paulie

For my 1967 Cal 321, I give it 13 winds in the morning, then a few turns throughout the day. Given that you don't have to pull out the crown to wind it, it's really no hardship. And it's a wonderful feeling having to wind life into a watch, it really connects you.

My poor 16710 spends quite a bit of time on a winder. That's the one downside to owning this piece of history; you can't take it off.

Yes for a TRUE watch lover who enjoys the interaction with the watch it is perfect. Gives you the reason to play around with it a little and enjoy the history as you say or traditional aspect to it. The clear caseback like on the one above just makes it that much more interesting too.

Originally Posted by jasper

I wore my Speedmaster every single day for 12 years and I downright looked forward to winding it every morning. One of the highlights of my day...which tells you how exciting my life is (j/k...sort of). Now I have a full auto GMT I kind of miss the connection. It almost doesn't feel right just strapping the watch on without anything more than a glance at the time.

When I get back to the UK next week the GMT is going in for a full service and I'll daily wear the speedmaster for a few months. I'll miss the GMT though..

Hey nothing is wrong with that! As I said above, for a true watch lover we value the excitment from them almost as one would with say their favourite car etc. It is nice that you will be wearing the SpeedMaster when your GMT Master is in for service. Please show us some after pictures when ever it comes back

[airhkg]

Depends on what you want it for. If you just like the Speedmaster I'd go auto but, if you want original "this watch was on the moon" or work for NASA got to be manual wind. Autos don't work in microgravity

[RW16610]

Originally Posted by airhkg

Depends on what you want it for. If you just like the Speedmaster I'd go auto but, if you want original "this watch was on the moon" or work for NASA got to be manual wind. Autos don't work in microgravity

Yeah, to me though like was stated above it feels to be mainly tradition. Fortis makes professional space watches also and they are automatic. Can be would manually when up in space of course but your right.

[Cmaster03]

I love a manual wind watch. As everybody says, if you love watches the tactile pleasure of "charging" your little time machine is a pleasure, not a chore.

Speedmaster Pro- manual wind Moon, of course- is next on my list of classics I must acquire! (Well, either that or a GMT.)

[petah]

Thanks for all the replies. Does the following pics of the 50th anniversary speedy pro look right? Correct boxset/bands? What is the going price for a used one? Are there anything to look for to ensure authenticity?

Thanks.

[RW16610]

That thing looks amazing. Remember taking a look at one when I was in an AD. Seems to all be there in terms of packaging

[Genevapics]

Originally Posted by DeepSeaWatches

Manual winds are great, there's more of a connection many times between you and the watch when you wind it each day...

When I was researching the Speedy Pro, many people said the same thing. I agree 100%. Waking up in the morning and winding my watch is something that I find very enjoyable. You really do develop a bond towards the watch. It's "old' school" as they say. I look forward every morning to winding my Speedy Pro.

[watchthisone2]

Originally Posted by airhkg

Depends on what you want it for. If you just like the Speedmaster I'd go auto but, if you want original "this watch was on the moon" or work for NASA got to be manual wind. Autos don't work in microgravity

I am not sure you are right, I think the autos would have worked in space and I am sure I have read somewhere that they would have. NASA would not have used any thing officially (some spacefarers used there own watches as well) the reason being that they had spent so much time and considerable money on testing the 321 calibre and they new that it worked, so why risk using anything else? I am not sure that the 861 that replaced the 321 calibre was ever actually used either.
I am sure I will be corrected if I am wrong!

[jmsrolls]

Originally Posted by watchthisone2

I am not sure you are right, I think the autos would have worked in space and I am sure I have read somewhere that they would have. NASA would not have used any thing officially (some spacefarers used there own watches as well) the reason being that they had spent so much time and considerable money on testing the 321 calibre and they new that it worked, so why risk using anything else? I am not sure that the 861 that replaced the 321 calibre was ever actually used either.
I am sure I will be corrected if I am wrong!

Autos will work in space.

And yes, NASA has used the 861 and the 1861 movements in space but so far as is documented, only the cal. 321 was used by the moon walkers.

Fr. John+

[SLRdude]

Originally Posted by airhkg

Depends on what you want it for. If you just like the Speedmaster I'd go auto but, if you want original "this watch was on the moon" or work for NASA got to be manual wind. Autos don't work in microgravity

Actually autos work just fine in microgravity or zero gravity.
Remember Sir Newton's First Law: An object at rest tends to stay at rest and an object in motion tends to stay in motion with the same speed and in the same direction unless acted upon by an unbalanced force.

[haners]

Not a huge fan of the Speedy nor chronographs in general. I used to have a Speedmaster, but sold it. I like my second hand to be the central hand, the sweeping central hand is what makes a watch amazing and tentalizing. It's a bummer when you have the huge dial of a Speedy, but have the second hand spinning around a tiny little circle. In fact, there were a number of times my friends or family would say "your watch has stopped." I remember I would sometimes run the stopwatch just so I could see the central hand spin.

I also have a small wrist, so the Speedy sometimes looked like a gray plastic sun dial (or hockey puck) on my arm. Though in some lightings, it looked spectacular.

I'm more of a diver watch kind of guy. And my car's speedometer works just fine.

[watchthisone2]

Originally Posted by jmsrolls

Autos will work in space.

And yes, NASA has used the 861 and the 1861 movements in space but so far as is documented, only the cal. 321 was used by the moon walkers.

Fr. John+

Part right then!
Thanks,
Jeff.