Help!!

[Hpozzuoli]

I am stumped. I want to install a safe dedicated to the watches and jewelry. My main requirement is I have a way to get power into it for the watch winders. My current winder is AC/battery, but when on battery it doesn't last long. I don't want to take a fire rated safe and drill a hole in it to run a cord. I have a large gun safe and some smaller safes, but I don't want to co-mingle their use.

HOW ARE YOU GUYS STORING YOUR WATCHES AND ALLOWING THEM TO BE ON WINDERS. I am not yelling. Just hit the caps button.

Thanks....pics would be great

[Blasketbanshee]

Winchester home safes have outlets inside.

[GradyPhilpott]

Sell the winders.

[swils8610]

My fire proof safe has a hole in it to run a power cord through.

[Lordofrolex]

I would call a custom safe company and inquire about safes that are fire rated and how they connect power in them. They might explain it to you. Wouldn't tell them you already own the safe though as they may not waste there time explaining it to you.

[carwash66]

Most "Safes" do provide a hole for power supply and/or security system monitoring. Even most of the higher end Burglar and Fire rated safes have a pre-drilled hole.

It depends on what you are trying to accomplish. If you are only concerned with fire protection and not theft protection, some of the choices would include:
1)Find the size you want and drill a small hole just big enough to insert the wire and then attach plug and seal hole with fireproof caulking.
2)Buy one with a hole already drilled.
3)Some of the Orbita Winders run on D cell Lithiums and I can tell you I've had them go for over 3 years. These do not require hard wired power supply.

Just for fun, below is a link for a Watch Safe with built in winders. They are not shy about publishing prices. Starting price is around a new Platnium Daytona!

http://www.brownsafe.com/chronos/watch-safe.htm

[bdex75]

I have a liberty safe that has asmall hole in the back to put cords thru. I have a de-humidifier and led lights.


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[Hpozzuoli]

Thanks guys. I am going to check out all the above mentioned.

I want fire resistant/proof/rated, but most importantly a way to run power inside without compromising security. It's going to house the watches and jewelry.

[linesiders]

First you gotta see Vinnie 2 Thumbs in EP.

[RichM]

Most safes have holes so that you can screw it into a concrete floor or to a wall. You could use one of them to run the wire.

[carwash66]

Maybe, TMI, but might be of interest.

The majority of the mass produced gun safes have a B-2 rating (Residential Security Container). This is fine in most cases, as the B-2 safes can also come fire rated. There are many B-4 and above rated safes that are very economical, as they are minus the high gloss paint and the tricked out interior. But, they do excel in burglary and fire protection.

Below is a summary from UL (Underwriters Laboratory) ratings for safes.
Most, not all, safes rated at or above B-15 (TL-15), will have sufficient fire rating.

UL Summary
Burglary Ratings
* B1 — Theft resistant (minimum security)
* B2 — Underwriters’ Laboratories Residential Security Container label
* B3 — Non-rated anti-theft (incorporates features of high security safes
without a UL rating)
* B4 — Underwriters’ Laboratories TL-15 label
* B5 — Underwriters’ Laboratories TL-30 label
* B6 — Underwriters’ Laboratories TL-30X6 or TRTL-30 label

UL Underwriters' Laboratories (UL) - UL is a non-profit, non-bias agency that tests and rates the safety and performance of consumer products. Safes that have earned specific UL ratings will carry a UL label which designates the product's security and fire-protection ratings.

* Net Working Time - This is the UL term for testing time which is spent trying to break into a safe using tools such as diamond grinding wheels, high-speed drills with pressure applying devices, or common hand tools such as hammers, chisels, saws, and carbide-tip drills. If a safe has been rated with a 30-minute net working time, (TL30), the rating certifies that the safe successfully withstood a full 30 minutes of attack time with a range of tools.
* Theft resistant - This rating means the safe provides a combination lock and minimal theft protection.
* Residential Security Container rating (RSC) - This UL rating is based on testing conducted for a net working time of five minutes, on all sides, with a range of tools.
* TL-15 rating - The TL-15 rating means the safe has been tested for a net working time of 15 minutes using high speed drills, saws and other sophisticated penetrating equipment.
* TL-30 rating - A product carrying the TL-30 security label has been tested for a net working time of 30 minutes with the same types of tools mentioned above.
* TL-30 x 6 - The TL-30 (30-minute) test is conducted on all six (6) sides of the safe.
* TRTL-30 - The TRTL rating designates a safe which successfully resisted 30 minutes of net working time with a torch and a range of tools which might include high speed drills and saws with carbide bits, pry bars, and other impact devices.

[Highland Ranger]

Some of these safes use moisture impregnated insulation to get the fire rating . . . need to watch that as they can be damp inside

[carwash66]

Originally Posted by Highland Ranger

Some of these safes use moisture impregnated insulation to get the fire rating . . . need to watch that as they can be damp inside

You are correct. The moisture impregnated insulation is commonly found in smaller document safes. It is part of how they achieve the fire rating required for documents, photos, etc....