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FOUNTAIN RACING · 5 July 2008, 04:29 AM

When someone is describing a Rolex,what does the term transitional mean?

JJ Irani · 5 July 2008, 04:31 AM

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Originally Posted by FOUNTAIN RACING

When someone is describing a Rolex,what does the term transitional mean?

It means that guy's just "transistised" from some other brand onto a Rolex!!

FOUNTAIN RACING · 5 July 2008, 04:35 AM

It's used in this description.

http://cgi.ebay.com/Rolex-Mens-18k-S...QQcmdZViewItem

Thanks JJ.

mborkow · 5 July 2008, 04:35 AM

I believe transitional refers to a short-lived model that spans the gap between two longer-lived models. Since the model run was short, there is an increased chance for the model to be collectible (rarity often translates to valuable).

SPACE-DWELLER · 5 July 2008, 04:38 AM

Transitional refers to changes of watches. For instance the change from matte to glossy dials, from non WG trimmed indices to WG trimmed ones, change from the use of plexi crystal to sapphire ones, change of movements (non fast-beat to fast beat), etc.

FOUNTAIN RACING · 5 July 2008, 04:49 AM

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Originally Posted by SPACE-DWELLER

Transitional refers to changes of watches. For instance the change from matte to glossy dials, from non WG trimmed indices to WG trimmed ones, change from the use of plexi crystal to sapphire ones, change of movements (non fast-beat to fast beat), etc.

Thanks SD, appreciate it.

Also thanks JYogi- I got your PM, and tried to respond, let me know if you got it.

Jocke · 5 July 2008, 04:58 AM

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Originally Posted by JJ Irani

It means that guy's just "transistised" from some other brand onto a Rolex!!

So you have a transistional fringe?

Jocke

mdx77 · 5 July 2008, 04:59 AM

I think RADO has something to do with it........

JJ Irani · 5 July 2008, 05:00 AM

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Originally Posted by mdx77

I think RADO has something to do with it........

Shut-up!! I think this is a serious thread!

mdx77 · 5 July 2008, 05:01 AM

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Originally Posted by JJ Irani

Shut-up!! I think this is a serious thread!

See that, and I though you missed me around here......

FOUNTAIN RACING · 5 July 2008, 05:11 AM

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Originally Posted by FOUNTAIN RACING

It's used in this description.

http://cgi.ebay.com/Rolex-Mens-18k-S...QQcmdZViewItem

Thanks JJ.

Whats the change between the above listing, and the new M series?

FOUNTAIN RACING · 5 July 2008, 05:13 AM

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Originally Posted by JJ Irani

Shut-up!! I think this is a serious thread!

Sorry JJ, I didn't mean to come off as an ass, but I have been talking to this guy, and needed answers fast! oh buy the way

JJ Irani · 5 July 2008, 05:14 AM

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Originally Posted by FOUNTAIN RACING

Sorry JJ, I didn't mean to come off as an ass, but I have been talking to this guy, and needed answers fast! oh buy the way

FOUNTAIN RACING · 5 July 2008, 05:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Jocke

So you have a transistional fringe?

Jocke

It may be more like a "transvestike" fringe!

mike · 5 July 2008, 05:44 AM

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Originally Posted by FOUNTAIN RACING

When someone is describing a Rolex,what does the term transitional mean?

You know, it's a term that is a bit over used to describe various references. In it's strictest sence "transitional" is a term that is used to describe a reference that combines a bit of the old and the new.

There was a period of time when Rolex introduced several upgrades to it's watches yet maintained the look of older references. The models that come to mind are the early 80s 16750, 16800, and 16660.

When introduced these models featured upgraded 3xxx fast beat movements, quick-set dates, etc... that, at the time, were new to the references. However; Rolex chose to maintain the "look and feel" of the models they replaced via the use of matt/tritium dials sans WG surrounds. In the case of the 16750 the acryllic crystal was also kept.

Beginning in the mid 80s as Rolex took the next step these models were equipped with the gloss/WG dials we see today. Generally the tern carried over to these versions, but some feel they are true transitionals.

early 16800

early 16750

Some of the TT and gold versions also carry the label as it relates to the movement.

FOUNTAIN RACING · 5 July 2008, 05:57 AM

Thanks Mike

WatchTimes · 5 July 2008, 06:29 AM

Wouldn't the 3186 GMT II be a transitional model?

mike · 5 July 2008, 06:38 AM

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Wouldn't the 3186 GMT II be a transitional model?

Jeremy, I wouldn't consider it as such since the watch is the same save an upgrade to an existing movement.

An historical example might be the 14060 and the 14060M. Same watch just an upgrade to the movement.

JJ Irani · 5 July 2008, 06:43 AM

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Jeremy, I wouldn't consider it as such since the watch is the same save an upgrade to an existing movement.

An historical example might be the 14060 and the 14060M. Same watch just an upgrade to the movement.

Now that's Mike for you.....always the one with the "sensible" replies!!

veefour · 5 July 2008, 09:32 AM

You've got the best info you can get.
BTW, that watch on e-bay has a SEL bracelet that's not correct

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