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dpa94114 · 5 February 2016, 09:35 AM

I've always been fascinated by the older dial on the subs from the 60s.

I've just seen a gorgeous older sub - Gilt chapter ring dial, some wear and tear, but pretty reasonable for early 60s - but the serial number is not visible (perhaps with loupe). Caseback is replacement, but has regular service dates inscribed over the years.

Very good seller.

Should the lack of a readable serial number make me run?

Thanks for any insight/thoughts...

The_Walrus · 5 February 2016, 06:50 PM

Post pictures for experts here to evaluate
A few vintages have worn serials but shouldn't be a problem if everything else checks out and reflected in the price.

Robbyvm · 5 February 2016, 06:51 PM

If you can read it with a loupe there's no issue
If you can't it could be a factor that makes a future sale more difficult...

Sold a 5508 with a very faded serial number once and the buyer hesitated for a looong time. Luckely i had some paperwork to back me up

Cuba1960 · 6 February 2016, 12:23 AM

Inherited a 1960 Sub from Cuba. Sweep/ hand dial. Working. All papers, no box. Don't know if it's a J. riviera or not. Taking it to be appraised today. I think the history of a watch out of 1960 Cuba has to merit some rarity/ worth. Any ideas?

watchcrank · 6 February 2016, 01:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Cuba1960

Inherited a 1960 Sub from Cuba. Sweep/ hand dial. Working. All papers, no box. Don't know if it's a J. riviera or not. Taking it to be appraised today. I think the history of a watch out of 1960 Cuba has to merit some rarity/ worth. Any ideas?

Very much so if correct & dial is marked JR. Rare to find an early sub, last one I had was the small crown Tudor.

dpa94114 · 6 February 2016, 04:34 AM

two shots

Just curious what people think...esp with the later (1969) case.

VaRobot · 6 February 2016, 04:36 AM

My 1680 has the lower half of the numbers worn away. I can still see the upper half and that jives with my original paperwork.

5 February 2016, 09:35 AM	#1
dpa94114 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: ex SF, back east Posts: 531	Older sub with worn serial number I've always been fascinated by the older dial on the subs from the 60s. I've just seen a gorgeous older sub - Gilt chapter ring dial, some wear and tear, but pretty reasonable for early 60s - but the serial number is not visible (perhaps with loupe). Caseback is replacement, but has regular service dates inscribed over the years. Very good seller. Should the lack of a readable serial number make me run? Thanks for any insight/thoughts...

5 February 2016, 06:51 PM	#3
Robbyvm "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Belgium Posts: 2,239	If you can read it with a loupe there's no issue If you can't it could be a factor that makes a future sale more difficult... Sold a 5508 with a very faded serial number once and the buyer hesitated for a looong time. Luckely i had some paperwork to back me up __________________ Instagram : robbyvm Pinterest : robbyvanmele

6 February 2016, 12:23 AM	#4
Cuba1960 "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: oregon Posts: 3	Rolex/ Cuba:1960. papers:) Inherited a 1960 Sub from Cuba. Sweep/ hand dial. Working. All papers, no box. Don't know if it's a J. riviera or not. Taking it to be appraised today. I think the history of a watch out of 1960 Cuba has to merit some rarity/ worth. Any ideas?

5 February 2016, 06:50 PM	#2
The_Walrus "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Real Name: George Location: Sydney Watch: 5513 Posts: 1,104	Post pictures for experts here to evaluate A few vintages have worn serials but shouldn't be a problem if everything else checks out and reflected in the price.

6 February 2016, 04:36 AM	#7
VaRobot "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2015 Real Name: John Location: I'm Done Watch: Mark IV Red Sub Posts: 854	My 1680 has the lower half of the numbers worn away. I can still see the upper half and that jives with my original paperwork.

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