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kaiserero · 15 July 2008, 01:29 PM

Would the members of TRF be open to the idea of a raffle for charity, with the lucky winner being the proud new owner of a Rolex watch?

I was thinking that a great many of us need to save money for our watch purchases, and this might be a fun way for the TRF community to donate to a good cause and maybe even get a watch out of it.

If tickets, for example, were priced at $15, then 15 * 400= $6000.00, enough for a quality used watch and a donation to charity. I would personally be willing to pay $25, and there might be enough of us to make it worthwhile.

Just an idea...not sure if there are enough active members to support it. Thoughts?

kaiserero · 15 July 2008, 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by JYogi

I think you should speak to the mods about this first....

You're absolutely right; it was a bit presumptuous of me. I recognize my error and have contacted the mods accordingly.

wanasub · 15 July 2008, 02:55 PM

Perhaps you should have posed the question to the mods first. But since it's out there...I'm down!! let's do it. Jonathan

scottschoe · 15 July 2008, 03:45 PM

Depends on who holds the money...

Lol-x · 15 July 2008, 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by scottschoe

Depends on who holds the money...

There is a lot more to consider in actual fact.

I see a lot of potential problems with a raffle:
1. Who organises it and who ensures that the proceeds go to charity and which charity who decides that?
2. Who buys the Rolex and how does that person transfer the warranty to the winner.
3. What if there is a problem and no watch is received by the winner?
4. Who accounts for all the proceeds, and who knows what exactly has been received?
5. Who and how is the winner determined and how can that be known to be impartial and fair.
6. Who knows what is profit, or what if there is a shortfall loss.
7. What laws apply regarding lotteries.
8. What if someone figures to buy 1/2 the available tickets and so he/she gets in essence a 50% chance of winning.

People have suggested this in the past, and it has really been used as a way to make a private gain.

These and other factors have only scratched the surface.

I'm sorry but the issues involved and the potential for problems are just more trouble than it is worth.

It's not impossible, but there are significant issues, and one where I would want to have 100% confidence in every aspect of this event.

chevycorvette · 15 July 2008, 04:01 PM

it is a no go.

Numismatist · 16 July 2008, 04:39 AM

I would trust Lol-x to administer my $25 if he wanted to. He could limit it to one ticket per verified person. If Lol-x wanted to, simply say it's up to his judgment and leave it at that. Worst case: I've given $25 to Lol-x which is a small price to pay for such a lovely forum!

redshirt1957 · 16 July 2008, 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Numismatist

I would trust Lol-x to administer my $25 if he wanted to. He could limit it to one ticket per verified person. If Lol-x wanted to, simply say it's up to his judgment and leave it at that. Worst case: I've given $25 to Lol-x which is a small price to pay for such a lovely forum![/

Nicely put.

Terry Newton · 16 July 2008, 12:33 PM

I agree with the money going to Steve anyway. Why have a charity when the forum is what we are interested in?

I give a lot of money every year to Rotary as I am a Rotarian. I am a Paul Harris Fellow four times over in the last few years. Rotary money gets used all over the world and I don't have to worry about what purpose or cause as it is all in humankind's best interest.

I'm sure everyone here has their favorite charities and causes that they donate money or time to.

The extra money for the lottery should go for maintaining the forum. Just my .02.

Terry Newton

doc_colton · 19 July 2008, 05:12 AM

You're joking right? Remember how some members got their knickers in a knot when Bubba gave JJ a Sub. Could you imagine what would happen if one of the moderators or someone from "the inner sanctum" won the raffle? I can just picture the 47 pages of posts from disgruntled losers claiming foul.

Best forgotten, in my opinion.

Goodwatch · 19 July 2008, 05:27 AM

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Originally Posted by doc_colton

You're joking right? Remember how some members got their knickers in a knot when Bubba gave JJ a Sub. Could you imagine what would happen if one of the moderators or someone from "the inner sanctum" won the raffle? I can just picture the 47 pages of posts from disgruntled losers claiming foul.

Best forgotten, in my opinion.

It's all about trust, one of those all too often overlooked virtues. I do however, acknowledge your concerns.

Two months ago, I (in my workplace) was in the opportunity to put up a very nice and professional but superfluous colour laser printer with an extra set of toners for offer to our personnel. All they had to do was to send an e-mail with "I'm interested" as the subject. One of our secretary's performed the draw. And both my colleague and I did not participate to avoid all suspicion of foul play. Because that's how it goes.

Art161 · 20 July 2008, 08:46 AM

Too many potential problems, IMO. An international lottery? We can have the authorities from a dozen countries looking into it. Let's face reality. There are some folks who are not happy with TRF for whatever reason, and would be delighted to blow the whistle.

Lol-x · 3 October 2009, 01:32 PM

Man I can feel a raffle coming on................stay tuned............who wants a brand new Rolex sports watch for less than $100 put up your hands?

sleddog · 3 October 2009, 01:37 PM

My hands are up.....!

Goodwatch · 3 October 2009, 04:19 PM

Me, me, me, me, me!

onkyo · 4 October 2009, 05:14 PM

Me three....

I am in like Flynn.

ps. I am assuming the problems from 7/08 are now resolved.

Alcan · 4 October 2009, 11:01 PM

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Did I mention that I'd be interested?

mailman · 5 October 2009, 12:28 AM

Did I win yet

deserted · 5 October 2009, 07:36 AM

Count me in .....................

BarkMaster · 5 October 2009, 07:50 AM

I'm in!!

Skullring · 5 October 2009, 08:10 AM

I am in.

Earl · 8 October 2009, 12:14 AM

alright, who hid the tickets?

Brushpup · 8 October 2009, 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by mailman

Did I win yet

Allan said he tried to reach you and couldn't. I think he has a new watch too!

Brushpup · 8 October 2009, 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Lol-x

Man I can feel a raffle coming on................stay tuned............who wants a brand new Rolex sports watch for less than $100 put up your hands?

Seriously though....

Lets make it happen Steve. I think there are some trusty members here if you or one of the Mods don't have time. I will happily buy a ticket....or two.

I say yes sir...My hand is UP!

Lol-x · 8 October 2009, 02:58 PM

It would be good, and I'm sure it would be a lot of fun, but some guys like to make trouble and it might just be too much controversy at the end of the day.....

Like how much money did you make, where's that money gone?
Why was he allowed to nominate that charity?
I feel like I got ripped off, I didn't agree to participate with that charity.........
Etc. etc. etc..

Despite my very best efforts and intentions, someone will bring this thing down for some spurious or collateral reason.

redshirt1957 · 9 October 2009, 08:00 AM

Raffle hell. I will pay big sums for someone to take my wife, and yes, she comes with a Rolex of your choice.

Brushpup · 9 October 2009, 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by redshirt1957

Raffle hell. I will pay big sums for someone to take my wife, and yes, she comes with a Rolex of your choice.

But does it include use of the lakehouse??

I mean, it sounds ok, but that could be a deal breaker.

Brushpup · 9 October 2009, 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Lol-x

It would be good, and I'm sure it would be a lot of fun, but some guys like to make trouble and it might just be too much controversy at the end of the day.....

Like how much money did you make, where's that money gone?
Why was he allowed to nominate that charity?
I feel like I got ripped off, I didn't agree to participate with that charity.........
Etc. etc. etc..

Despite my very best efforts and intentions, someone will bring this thing down for some spurious or collateral reason.

Steve I absolutely see your concern and I appreciate it as much as I can from where I am. That said, I think the forum members and mods could handle the miscreants who might try and besmirch this. I just think it's such a fantastic idea and really think it would be great. Personally, I wouldn't care if all the money earned went to the forum's support, and I bet I'm not alone. We got a little taste of that recently showing just how many people truly love this place.

I know, there is a lot stuff I don't understand, but I think there is more good potential than bad....and for the record, I am more a pessimist than optomist.

Sorry if I am being pushy, I just love the idea.

theloxmyth · 9 October 2009, 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by redshirt1957

Raffle hell. I will pay big sums for someone to take my wife, and yes, she comes with a Rolex of your choice.

This reminds me of the joke:

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15 July 2008, 01:29 PM	#1
kaiserero Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: chicago Posts: 28	TRF raffle? Would the members of TRF be open to the idea of a raffle for charity, with the lucky winner being the proud new owner of a Rolex watch? I was thinking that a great many of us need to save money for our watch purchases, and this might be a fun way for the TRF community to donate to a good cause and maybe even get a watch out of it. If tickets, for example, were priced at $15, then 15 * 400= $6000.00, enough for a quality used watch and a donation to charity. I would personally be willing to pay $25, and there might be enough of us to make it worthwhile. Just an idea...not sure if there are enough active members to support it. Thoughts?

15 July 2008, 03:45 PM	#4
scottschoe "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: CA Posts: 3,295	Depends on who holds the money... __________________ __________________

16 July 2008, 04:39 AM	#7
Numismatist "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Real Name: Chris Location: Camden ME & STT Watch: 116600 Posts: 6,350	I would trust Lol-x to administer my $25 if he wanted to. He could limit it to one ticket per verified person. If Lol-x wanted to, simply say it's up to his judgment and leave it at that. Worst case: I've given $25 to Lol-x which is a small price to pay for such a lovely forum! __________________ Rolex 116600 Sea-dweller Montblanc Solitaire Doué Black & White Legrand FP Montblanc Solitaire Doué Black & White RB Montblanc Meisterstück Diamond Mozart BP Montblanc Meisterstück Mozart BP

16 July 2008, 12:33 PM	#9
Terry Newton "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Real Name: Terry Newton Location: Michigan Watch: Rolex TT GMT II c Posts: 6,644	I agree with the money going to Steve anyway. Why have a charity when the forum is what we are interested in? I give a lot of money every year to Rotary as I am a Rotarian. I am a Paul Harris Fellow four times over in the last few years. Rotary money gets used all over the world and I don't have to worry about what purpose or cause as it is all in humankind's best interest. I'm sure everyone here has their favorite charities and causes that they donate money or time to. The extra money for the lottery should go for maintaining the forum. Just my .02. Terry Newton __________________ Terry Newton; Superstar and Fake Sleuth "Z" SS Date Submariner "Z" TT GMT-Master IIc

19 July 2008, 05:12 AM	#10
doc_colton "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Toronto Posts: 825	You're joking right? Remember how some members got their knickers in a knot when Bubba gave JJ a Sub. Could you imagine what would happen if one of the moderators or someone from "the inner sanctum" won the raffle? I can just picture the 47 pages of posts from disgruntled losers claiming foul. Best forgotten, in my opinion. __________________

15 July 2008, 02:55 PM	#3
wanasub "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Real Name: Jonathan Location: wisconsin Posts: 386	Perhaps you should have posed the question to the mods first. But since it's out there...I'm down!! let's do it. Jonathan

15 July 2008, 04:01 PM	#6
chevycorvette "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Real Name: willie Location: pie hole Watch: still looking Posts: 924	it is a no go.

20 July 2008, 08:46 AM	#12
Art161 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Real Name: Art Location: San Francisco Watch: Sundial Posts: 2,266	Too many potential problems, IMO. An international lottery? We can have the authorities from a dozen countries looking into it. Let's face reality. There are some folks who are not happy with TRF for whatever reason, and would be delighted to blow the whistle. __________________ Rolex SS Oyster Perpetual no date, TT Datejust Member #13992 HM Power to the Superlative Panda, officially certified! HMPanda eats, shoots and leaves. Rolexers do it with perpetual movements.

3 October 2009, 01:32 PM	#13
Lol-x Facilitator Join Date: Nov 2005 Real Name: Steve Location: Omnipresent Posts: 33,564	Man I can feel a raffle coming on................stay tuned............who wants a brand new Rolex sports watch for less than $100 put up your hands? __________________ *Most folks are about as happy as they make up their minds to be.* ~Abraham Lincoln Nothing compares to the simple pleasure of a bike ride. ~John F. Kennedy ROLEXploitation - yeah I'm a victim

3 October 2009, 01:37 PM	#14
sleddog TRF Moderator & 2024 SubLV41 Patron Join Date: Jul 2007 Real Name: Rob Location: Nearby. Posts: 24,930	My hands are up.....! __________________ He who wears a Rolex is always on time, even when late!! TRF's "After Dark" Bar & Nightclub Patron-Founding Member..

3 October 2009, 04:19 PM	#15
Goodwatch "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Real Name: Frans ® Location: Rotterdam Watch: the sunrise... Posts: 10,230	Me, me, me, me, me! __________________ Member# 127

4 October 2009, 05:14 PM	#16
onkyo Banned Join Date: Apr 2008 Real Name: Pav Location: Manhattan Posts: 11,495	Me three.... I am in like Flynn. ps. I am assuming the problems from 7/08 are now resolved.

4 October 2009, 11:01 PM	#17
Alcan 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Real Name: Al Location: Way Up North Watch: your P's & Q's Posts: 10,473	mememememememememememememememememememememememememe memememmememememememememememememememememememememem ememememememememememememememememememememememememem ememememememememememememememememememememememememem ememememememememememememememememememememememememem ememememememememememememememememememememememememem ememememememememememememememememememememememememem ememememememememememememememememememememememememem emememememememememememememememememememememememeeme mememememememememememememememememememememememememe mememememememememememememememememememememememememe mememememememememememememememememememememememememe mememememememememememememememememememememememememe mememememememememememememememememememememememememe mememememememememememememememememememememememememe Did I mention that I'd be interested? __________________ Member #1,315 I don't want to get technical, but according to chemistry alcohol IS a solution!

5 October 2009, 12:28 AM	#18
mailman TRF Moderator & SubLV41 2024 Patron Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: . Watch: 126610LN Posts: 35,509	Did I win yet __________________ JJ

5 October 2009, 07:36 AM	#19
deserted Banned Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: fort wayne IN Watch: Patek 1909003 Posts: 2,176	Count me in .....................

5 October 2009, 07:50 AM	#20
BarkMaster "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Texas Watch: 18078 YG DD Posts: 7,962	I'm in!! __________________ BARK BARK BARK BARK BARK BARK BARK BARK BARK BARK BARK BARK

5 October 2009, 08:10 AM	#21
Skullring "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Real Name: Phillip Location: Alabama Watch: Triple 6 SD Posts: 1,720	I am in. __________________ It is only with the heart that one can see rightly; what is essential is invisible to the eye. - Antoine de Saint Exupéry

8 October 2009, 12:14 AM	#22
Earl "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2005 Real Name: Who Me? Location: Northern Virginia Watch: out Posts: 4,616	alright, who hid the tickets?

8 October 2009, 02:58 PM	#25
Lol-x Facilitator Join Date: Nov 2005 Real Name: Steve Location: Omnipresent Posts: 33,564	It would be good, and I'm sure it would be a lot of fun, but some guys like to make trouble and it might just be too much controversy at the end of the day..... Like how much money did you make, where's that money gone? Why was he allowed to nominate that charity? I feel like I got ripped off, I didn't agree to participate with that charity......... Etc. etc. etc.. Despite my very best efforts and intentions, someone will bring this thing down for some spurious or collateral reason. __________________ *Most folks are about as happy as they make up their minds to be.* ~Abraham Lincoln Nothing compares to the simple pleasure of a bike ride. ~John F. Kennedy ROLEXploitation - yeah I'm a victim

9 October 2009, 08:00 AM	#26
redshirt1957 "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Real Name: Bubba Location: Bitsyville! Watch: Blue YM today! Posts: 10,053	Raffle hell. I will pay big sums for someone to take my wife, and yes, she comes with a Rolex of your choice.

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