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[aayates]

Ok, I know this will be controversial but what the heck. I know this is a sub-forum of Rolex, so I expect there to be a lot of love for sports patek watches. However, the aquanaut/nautilus designs seem straight 1970's to me. I love the calatravas and complication pateks, but I don't have the love for the sports models. They're stealthy, I guess, and have the solid patek movement - but they look dated to me, and I'd never jump off the high-dive with such an expensive watch like I would with my subc. I know it's just personal preference, and I didn't even know there were patek sports models until I joined the forum. Do folks use these models in the ocean/pool or are they more likely to be desk divers than even the rolexes. I'm not trying to offend, just trying to understand.

[samuelhuntington]

Yes people use them doing everything that one would with a Rolex. Obviously with the higher price point and level of finishing,most owners are more carful with the pp sport models than say a submariner. I myself have a 5167 in addition to a sub and explorer ii, so I have a choice depending what I'm getting in to. Common sense really. The Naultius and aquanaut and handle pretty much anything a Rolex can.

[samuelhuntington]

Also it's ok if you don't like the styling of pp sport watches. Different strokes for different folks.

[aayates]

Cool; I didn't know the pp sports are as tough as the rolexes.

[HorologyK]

I treat my 5167 harder than a Rolex and still works. Including swimming and snorkeling.

[samuelhuntington]

Originally Posted by aayates

Cool; I didn't know the pp sports are as tough as the rolexes.

Well pretty much but there are also exceptions... Using your example on the high diving board, I would much rather be wearing a submariner with its higher water resistance. The pp sports are fine for swimming etc.. But going off the high dive, water skiing, scuba diving and such, I'll take the Rolex

[jon_jon]

Originally Posted by samuelhuntington

Well pretty much but there are also exceptions... Using your example on the high diving board, I would much rather be wearing a submariner with its higher water resistance. The pp sports are fine for swimming etc.. But going off the high dive, water skiing, scuba diving and such, I'll take the Rolex

I think most people on this forum would agree with you. However I feel people are more careful with Patek sports watch because of the how much the watch costs and the repair costs if it it needed servicing. Having said that, I feel on average Patek owners have deeper pockets than Rolex owners, so they can probably accept repair and service costs more readily if need be.

[KarlS]

Careful? Wear it, enjoy it!

[Hairdude1]

Originally Posted by KarlS

Careful? Wear it, enjoy it!

[JP Chestnut]

Originally Posted by jon_jon

I think most people on this forum would agree with you. However I feel people are more careful with Patek sports watch because of the how much the watch costs and the repair costs if it it needed servicing. Having said that, I feel on average Patek owners have deeper pockets than Rolex owners, so they can probably accept repair and service costs more readily if need be.

Patek service may or may not be expensive monetarily, but it's undoubtably time consuming.

[Passionata]

PP sportswatches*were designed in the seventies undoubtly having the flair of that era ,some ppl incl.me prefer that "visual communication" over the recent designs and material use of other watchmakers(i mean oversized cases,ceramics,etc) ,
regarding durablity it s true Pateks are look fragile and a Sub fits better for certain tasks.




*NB.i know Aquas are not but still considering those very similar to the Nautilus line.

[lapince]

Originally Posted by samuelhuntington

Also it's ok if you don't like the styling of pp sport watches. Different strokes for different folks.

Yep, about the 70's yeah it has a little of that, but you have designs which are timeless, AP royal Oak, and the Nautilus, they have achived iconic status and IMO look great, but you know I didn't like AT ALL the Nautilus for at leadt 1-2 years, everytime I saw them I didn't see what the fuss was about, they really didn't sing to me at all, but after some time of seeing them I started to like them and never had a very high end watch, had 4 rolex, 3 Pams, 2 breitling, omega, cartier, tag and basically that was it, they are all good watches but not high end, so decided to get one, the 5712, and after a period of maybe 1 month and until today I consider it the best steel watch ever made, just my personal tastes, and the level of comfort is so huge compared to rolex and panerai that after i couldn't wear any of my other watches, had the impression of wearing a brick to be honest when I put them on, so apart from a few i kept for sentimental reasons i sold everything and do not regret, i then added a AP ceramic diver, also increcebly comfortable depite the big size.

So I can understand you don't like them as i also didn't, but keep coming here checking out the threads, the pics and I would be quite surprised if you don't start to like them in 1-2 years like I did, but no guarantee

[enjoythemusic]

Had a 5167 for years and she was truly a daily beater. Comfortable to wear and very lightweight all things considered. My only grip is the non-adjustable strap. She always worked fine and while the case did get some scratches, she never let me down. Recently sold her for a new Sub no-date due to moving to FL and thus plan to dive and plenty of beach activities. Felt the Sub would take more (ab)use with a case a bit more durable plus servicing takes far less time. Personally, I find reading the dial of the Sub to be easier than the 5167 and the lume stays lit far longer than the Patek. Both are great mechanical timepieces so it really boils down to personal preference (imho). The nod goes to the Sub if you plan to dive and want the watch band to quickly/easily extend out for the dive suit or if your wrist changes a bit due to heat/cold and you want to easily adjust the band. This is where Rolex's GL comes into play.

[Stuxnet]

I own a 5167. But I shake my head when people say Patek and sports watches in the same sentence.

Thierry (nice gent that he is) doesn't exactly look like he is the sporting type. I can see him grouse hunting, but not much else. If I am wrong, I would gladly accept an invitation from Thierry to be humbled by him in the sport of his choice. Somebody please set this up.

[jon_jon]

Originally Posted by JP Chestnut

Patek service may or may not be expensive monetarily, but it's undoubtably time consuming.

That is very true. There are many more watchmakers who can work on a Rolex vs a Patek. Also even if an independent watchmaker can work on a Patek sports watch (e.g. 5167/5711) with a simple movement, 99% of owners send their watch to the Patek factory. Fortunately it only took 3 months to service my 5167 from Patek NY, which wasn't bad.

Having said that, I imagine many, if not most Patek watch owners own many other watches including Rolex, AP, etc. As for Rolex owners, judging from a recent thread in the Rolex section, I was a bit surprised that a large numbers of TRF forum members only own one Rolex. It probably seems like a longer wait when you are waiting for your only watch to be serviced vs having several other watches to wear while waiting for service.

[Headshrinker]

I'm pretty sure that the Nautilus could handle 99% of what a comparable Rolex could but I (personally) paid for the detailed case and polished looks. I am much more aware of my movements than, say, wearing my platinum Daytona, not because it isn't a beautiful watch, but because I feel it's more of a do anything watch.

[lapince]

Originally Posted by Stuxnet

I own a 5167. But I shake my head when people say Patek and sports watches in the same sentence.

Thierry (nice gent that he is) doesn't exactly look like he is the sporting type. I can see him grouse hunting, but not much else. If I am wrong, I would gladly accept an invitation from Thierry to be humbled by him in the sport of his choice. Somebody please set this up.

Yes in fact they are sporty dress watches, stronger than dress watches but in no way as robust, IMO, as Rolex, RM, AP ROO, your 5167 was fine for many things but I am not sure that it'is good to wear them for'sports where the movements are violent, squash, tennis, running, etc, but for pool and beach the 5711/5167 with 120meter WR are fine, wouldn't dive from a certan height with it on but other than that it's fine, the 5712 is more controversial with only 60meter, some say you can swim, others no...

Originally Posted by Headshrinker

I'm pretty sure that the Nautilus could handle 99% of what a comparable Rolex could but I (personally) paid for the detailed case and polished looks. I am much more aware of my movements than, say, wearing my platinum Daytona, not because it isn't a beautiful watch, but because I feel it's more of a do anything watch.

Well when I had a bike (motor) accident in Thailand, totally my fault, was riding cross style with a 125m3 scooter when I had too much to drink, I know but I drive bikes more than 25 years and big ones, this was my first and only "accident" in 23 years of biking at the time, and boy was I glad i had a blnr and not my 5712, I wanted to take the PP my wife said no, scratches on the crystal, on the bracelet, sold it to a grey dealer friend for 800$ less plus price for new crystal and polish, i can imagine the price if it had been the patek. So now I try never to take any watch when I am on a bike, also try not to drink

[AK797]

I love the look, design and silky feel of the Nautilus but the few times I have handled the SS the dial was a grey/blue which didn't excite me that much and it did feel a bit dated. I have seen pics here where the blue is more vibrant but I prefer the blue of the 5711P and 5980 TT so I was happy to go for the RG, which I am glad to say I do baby and I do want it to look pristine as I have other PM Rolexes for daily and sporty wear. I don't really think of servicing costs but knowing how long they can take PP makes me want to protect it even more so.

[RUK]

Was similar to you till I got a 5711. I thought they would be less robust, but I was wrong.. its is a stunning design and I wear it every day and it is as easy to live with as my 114060 sub.

[aayates]

Hey, thanks all. This has been fun and informative. I appreciate all of the input. I will have to see one of the PP sports in person at some point. For now I will enjoy my 5127, which is my new favorite dress watch (sorry gp).
andy

[rebel_1]

I use to think the Nautilus looked silly with the ears and all. Now I have two of them. It's definitely a love it or hate it situation, IMHO.

[lapince]

Originally Posted by rebel_1

I use to think the Nautilus looked silly with the ears and all. Now I have two of them. It's definitely a love it or hate it situation, IMHO.

Yeah just like me, but i came around

[Halothane]

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This watch is beautiful.


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[aayates]

Originally Posted by tomalf123

This watch is beautiful.


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This is what I mean. If it had a pure white or black face I could see it. But it looks straight out of "Space 1999" with that brown dial. Reminds me of my parents at the playboy club in the early 70's. That's why there are so many different styles. Makes sense to have variety.

[Halothane]

"Reminds me of my parents at the playboy club in the early 70's. "



Maybe that's why I like this watch. If only I could of experienced the Playboy Club in the 70's!!


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[AK797]

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This watch is beautiful.


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[AK797]

Originally Posted by aayates

This is what I mean. If it had a pure white or black face I could see it. But it looks straight out of "Space 1999" with that brown dial. Reminds me of my parents at the playboy club in the early 70's. That's why there are so many different styles. Makes sense to have variety.

Better lock the drinks cabinet now.

[brandrea]

Originally Posted by AK797

Better lock the drinks cabinet now.