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Andy355 · 15 April 2016, 06:24 AM

May I ask for some advice from you guys. I like the idea of getting a gmt Pepsi model. However I am torn between getting a vintage model - 1960s or something new. I am also surprised that the prices are somewhat similar.

What would you recommend a) for use and b) as an investment?
Do the later models appeal due to reliability?

Thanks

aaamax · 15 April 2016, 06:42 AM

would love to help and it's a great watch in all its guises. BUT, I don't think the prices are similar. unless you truly mean vintage vs a brand new watch. The non vintage, as in 90-2006 are considerably less expensive. What looks best to your eyes?

strafer_kid · 15 April 2016, 06:53 AM

The GMT Pepsi is a great watch in any of its guises. Really comes down to personal taste in the end. If you are patient and hunt around you can pick up a nice one though prices can be quite high. If I was going for another myself now as my only one, I reckon I would veer towards the 16710. It covers just about all the bases and with servicing will pretty much go for ever! Good luck!

Frosty · 15 April 2016, 06:53 AM

I like matte dials and the history of the watch. My 1675 loses about a second a day when I wear it, M-F. It is very comfortable with a Jubilee Bracelet. Judging on prices and condition it would be on par with a new S/S. jmho

hope2 · 15 April 2016, 07:01 AM

I have had maybe ten of the older ones over the years, like them a lot. now have ceramic, really like it three years now and i get bored real easy. Not knocking the older ones at all, new one for me, little heavier "duty" for everyday wear, better bracelet.

slorollin · 15 April 2016, 10:33 PM

What strafer_kid said. Just got a 16710 black, Z series. I think it has the best of the old styling, which I prefer, in a "newer" watch. Style is subjective, though. What I did see during my quest was that the best example 16710's are selling for more than the early ceramics; if that tells you anything.

Speed · 15 April 2016, 10:47 PM

Which models appeal most to you - to wear on your wrist?

I'd focus on the one you *like* the best. Invest in stocks and bonds.

red1108nyc · 15 April 2016, 11:20 PM

Going vintage... nice original lugs and matching patina will be the key~

jrs146 · 15 April 2016, 11:25 PM

If you're stuck between vintage (1675) and non-vintage (16710). You could hunt down a nice 16750. The glossy dials are reasonable priced and they still have a nice vintage feel. If you want a bit more vintage you could hunt down a matte 16750. It will look/feel like a 1675 and might be a tad less expensive.

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slashd0t · 15 April 2016, 11:41 PM

I love the matte dial of the 1675, but setting the date can be a major pain if it's in a rotation with a lot of other watches..

That said, nothing quite beats that matte dial with a beautiful patina!

GoldnGuns · 16 April 2016, 02:12 AM

I love my 16700, and would recommend it to anyone considering a GMT Master. If not the 16700, though, my tastes draw me more toward the earlier GMT models... 1675, 16750, and the king of the hill, 6542.

Definitely seek out, try on, and scrutinize the watches you are considering. Aside from the look and feel differences you will note, there are likely to be age, condition, provenance, and completion (box/papers) criteria that will narrow down your options.

If cared for and serviced, your Rolex should maintain reliability throughout its (your) life. Buy your watch to wear and enjoy it. Buy well, and it will retain its value, but don't count on value appreciation.

blue lion · 16 April 2016, 04:06 AM

Since you say the prices are similar, I assume you are looking at the latter years of the 16710 and not the current white gold pepsi GMT.
I'm not an old watch (or car, or house) guy so when I wanted my Pepsi I got a Z serial 16710 and it's been a good watch.
Keep in mind on that model if you find a great condition model with a black or Coke bezel you can always swap out the bezel for a Pepsi for $100 or so.

Andy355 · 16 April 2016, 06:49 AM

Thanks all for the replies, and some great watch photos. I guess I am a bit surprised that bar a variance of 1k-2k or so you can range from a 1960 to 2007 model

In terms of investment - and I wouldn't normally buy a watch as an investment - I have been toying with the idea of buying a nos z series and keeping it locked away. Whilst it would be quite distressing not to be able to wear it, it does seem like a fun way to invest in something with limited downside, if any

15 April 2016, 06:24 AM	#1
Andy355 "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: London Posts: 173	Gmt Pepsi advice May I ask for some advice from you guys. I like the idea of getting a gmt Pepsi model. However I am torn between getting a vintage model - 1960s or something new. I am also surprised that the prices are somewhat similar. What would you recommend a) for use and b) as an investment? Do the later models appeal due to reliability? Thanks

15 April 2016, 06:42 AM	#2
aaamax "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Sweden of yore Posts: 483	would love to help and it's a great watch in all its guises. BUT, I don't think the prices are similar. unless you truly mean vintage vs a brand new watch. The non vintage, as in 90-2006 are considerably less expensive. What looks best to your eyes? __________________ * * * -Friends Don't Let Friends RSC-

15 April 2016, 06:53 AM	#4
Frosty 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: May 2009 Real Name: Larry Location: So Cal Watch: Rolex GMT 1675 Posts: 5,087	I like matte dials and the history of the watch. My 1675 loses about a second a day when I wear it, M-F. It is very comfortable with a Jubilee Bracelet. Judging on prices and condition it would be on par with a new S/S. jmho __________________ “Anyone can be sarcastic; it takes intelligence to solve a problem!”

15 April 2016, 11:25 PM	#9
jrs146 "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Real Name: Josh Location: Lost in time Watch: Me Nae Nae Posts: 9,823	If you're stuck between vintage (1675) and non-vintage (16710). You could hunt down a nice 16750. The glossy dials are reasonable priced and they still have a nice vintage feel. If you want a bit more vintage you could hunt down a matte 16750. It will look/feel like a 1675 and might be a tad less expensive. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ "Sometimes the songs that we hear are just songs of our own." -Jerome J. Garcia, Robert C. Hunter

15 April 2016, 11:41 PM	#10
slashd0t "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Real Name: Jamie Location: Edmonton, AB Watch: This & That Posts: 771	I love the matte dial of the 1675, but setting the date can be a major pain if it's in a rotation with a lot of other watches.. That said, nothing quite beats that matte dial with a beautiful patina! __________________ /.

15 April 2016, 06:53 AM	#3
strafer_kid "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Real Name: Kenny Location: northern ireland Watch: SDs, Subs & GMTs Posts: 5,136	The GMT Pepsi is a great watch in any of its guises. Really comes down to personal taste in the end. If you are patient and hunt around you can pick up a nice one though prices can be quite high. If I was going for another myself now as my only one, I reckon I would veer towards the 16710. It covers just about all the bases and with servicing will pretty much go for ever! Good luck!

15 April 2016, 07:01 AM	#5
hope2 "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 16	I have had maybe ten of the older ones over the years, like them a lot. now have ceramic, really like it three years now and i get bored real easy. Not knocking the older ones at all, new one for me, little heavier "duty" for everyday wear, better bracelet.

15 April 2016, 10:33 PM	#6
slorollin "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: NC Watch: yer pints & quarts Posts: 372	What strafer_kid said. Just got a 16710 black, Z series. I think it has the best of the old styling, which I prefer, in a "newer" watch. Style is subjective, though. What I did see during my quest was that the best example 16710's are selling for more than the early ceramics; if that tells you anything.

15 April 2016, 10:47 PM	#7
Speed "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: USA Posts: 19,706	Which models appeal most to you - to wear on your wrist? I'd focus on the one you like the best. Invest in stocks and bonds.

15 April 2016, 11:20 PM	#8
red1108nyc 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Real Name: Fred Location: NYC/NJ Metro Area Watch: Rolex Posts: 8,511	Going vintage... nice original lugs and matching patina will be the key~

16 April 2016, 04:06 AM	#12
blue lion "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Florida State! Watch: It's just a watch. Posts: 1,463	Since you say the prices are similar, I assume you are looking at the latter years of the 16710 and not the current white gold pepsi GMT. I'm not an old watch (or car, or house) guy so when I wanted my Pepsi I got a Z serial 16710 and it's been a good watch. Keep in mind on that model if you find a great condition model with a black or Coke bezel you can always swap out the bezel for a Pepsi for $100 or so.

16 April 2016, 06:49 AM	#13
Andy355 "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: London Posts: 173	Thanks all for the replies, and some great watch photos. I guess I am a bit surprised that bar a variance of 1k-2k or so you can range from a 1960 to 2007 model In terms of investment - and I wouldn't normally buy a watch as an investment - I have been toying with the idea of buying a nos z series and keeping it locked away. Whilst it would be quite distressing not to be able to wear it, it does seem like a fun way to invest in something with limited downside, if any

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