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Old 11 May 2016, 08:29 AM   #1
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Daydreaming about PCCs again...

As between 5970G and 5970J, which do you prefer and why?

A few personal thoughts:

1. 5970J appears to have been the least produced having been in production for only 1 year and with approx. 450 produced vs. approx. 850 of the 5970G.

2. Yellow gold feels more vintage and timeless. White gold is more versatile and may stand the test of time better.

3. Yellow gold might have more character as opposed to white gold.

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Old 11 May 2016, 08:35 AM   #2
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God that's like saying do you love your eldest child or your youngest? :). They are both gorgeous and honestly different strokes for different times. Love em both- can't say I have a favorite.
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Old 11 May 2016, 08:47 AM   #3
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Both are superb, but I would choose the YG for its timeless and classic looks. It would be an honor to own either one.
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Old 11 May 2016, 08:56 AM   #4
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R then J for me.
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Old 11 May 2016, 09:05 AM   #5
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I'd get the G, simply because I prefer white metal.
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Old 11 May 2016, 09:12 AM   #6
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Old School YG FTW!
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Old 11 May 2016, 09:29 AM   #7
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God that's like saying do you love your eldest child or your youngest? :). They are both gorgeous and honestly different strokes for different times. Love em both- can't say I have a favorite.
thanks.

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Both are superb, but I would choose the YG for its timeless and classic looks. It would be an honor to own either one.
Thanks. Indeed.

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R then J for me.
Thanks. You know, I am not a fan of the R on this... I love rose gold (you and I seem to share that affliction ) but the case and dial make it a little too "pink" for me. Just personal taste of course.

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I'd get the G, simply because I prefer white metal.
Thanks Russ. I thought I was convinced on the P, and something held me back... maybe timing was not right, and probably still isn't right for me now as I am having a baby next month, but I like to think.

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Old School YG FTW!
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Old 11 May 2016, 10:51 AM   #8
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I vote G by a nose.
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Old 11 May 2016, 11:01 AM   #9
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Not a fan of yellow, so either a white metal or RG, though for a YG watch it still looks nice, but probably my least favorite combination possible
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Old 11 May 2016, 11:04 AM   #10
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I vote g. Just a personal preference. Any version is superb
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Old 11 May 2016, 11:10 AM   #11
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God that's like saying do you love your eldest child or your youngest? :). They are both gorgeous and honestly different strokes for different times. Love em both- can't say I have a favorite.
Great analogy.

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Both are superb, but I would choose the YG for its timeless and classic looks. It would be an honor to own either one.
Well put I completely agree 100%. YG for me.

OP you have a terrible dilemma.
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Old 11 May 2016, 11:15 AM   #12
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I am a fan of white metal watches. But the 5970J has that classic Patek look to it. Both are great looking watches - tough choice!
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Old 11 May 2016, 12:05 PM   #13
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I am a fan of white metal watches. But the 5970J has that classic Patek look to it. Both are great looking watches - tough choice!
Agreed. Normally prefer white metal, and that 5970G on a brown strap is stunning. But there is something absolutely alluring about a Patek PC in yellow gold, especially one in which so little have been produced. But for versatility the white gold is hard to beat. Good luck.
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Old 11 May 2016, 12:15 PM   #14
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I am a fan of white metal watches. But the 5970J has that classic Patek look to it. Both are great looking watches - tough choice!

Thanks boss. How would you say the 5970g compares to your first generation 5270 (if I remember correctly you have one, no?).



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Old 11 May 2016, 01:01 PM   #15
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I am a fan of white metal watches. But the 5970J has that classic Patek look to it. Both are great looking watches - tough choice!
Well said. In this reference my favorite is the P followed by the G. I owned both but flipped the G to get my 5204P. I didn't think I needed really 2 5970s. So I vote G, but you really can't go wrong with either. My opinion is that if you do decide to resell later on, you may do better owning white metal versus yellow at the same time that's reflected already in the purchase price as G sells for a bit more....
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Old 11 May 2016, 01:29 PM   #16
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G but on a brown strap for me.
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Old 11 May 2016, 01:33 PM   #17
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G but on a brown strap for me.
Also many more strap color combos to match for G versus J. G will work with brown, black, blue , anything really....J, prob only brown and black
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Old 11 May 2016, 06:55 PM   #18
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G - personal preference
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Old 11 May 2016, 07:08 PM   #19
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White metal for me.
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Old 11 May 2016, 07:55 PM   #20
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While I'm partial to white metals, I'll have to go with the YG on this occasion....like the classic looks and more limited production run.
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For G, I really like the 5270 with blue dial, maybe most of all the gold PCCs.
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Old 11 May 2016, 11:14 PM   #22
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J - the 5970 just "comes to life" in that metal!
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Old 12 May 2016, 12:40 AM   #23
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J no question. Least produced of all the 5970's. 25 years from now that will matter in auction results.
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Old 12 May 2016, 12:51 AM   #24
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J no question. Least produced of all the 5970's. 25 years from now that will matter in auction results.
That's a valid argument!
If you are still alive in 25 years and you can eventually no longer read the date on the perpetual calendar because of your age, you have at least improved your pension...

Personally I don't care for auction results in 25 years...
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Old 12 May 2016, 03:33 AM   #25
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ThomasPP, huge congratulations on the new baby. They sure put things in perspective!! Glad you held off on the P- if it doesn't feel right then it isn't the right time!

Without taking price, rarity, etc. into account, I am kinda groovin' on the J for its old school look. Then R and then G.

Only way to tell for sure for you is to strap them on. It would be awesome if you found a place where you could see all 3 (or 4!) at once.

Good luck and have fun!
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My all time grail. I personally would go with YG as i'm a YG fan.
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Old 12 May 2016, 04:28 AM   #27
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in this case .... YELLOW !
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Old 12 May 2016, 05:07 AM   #28
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Both are superb, but I would choose the YG for its timeless and classic looks. It would be an honor to own either one.
Fully agree.

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Old 12 May 2016, 05:49 AM   #29
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Agreed

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That's a valid argument!
If you are still alive in 25 years and you can eventually no longer read the date on the perpetual calendar because of your age, you have at least improved your pension...

Personally I don't care for auction results in 25 years...
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Old 12 May 2016, 07:34 PM   #30
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Both are nice. Maybe i pick slightly to the G
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