Another fake or real thread - Daytona 116520

[gery82]

Like the subject says, what is your first impression of this watch in terms of originality?

Not the best photos I know...

Thanks in advance for chiming in😉

[dr3ziz]

first impression it looks good ,, better pics would help + check the movement

[gery82]

Thanks, the seller says it has box and papers if the serial number checks out with the papers then it's good, right?

Anyways I'm gonna ask better quality photos.

[kirksingleton]

looks good me but you will never sure until you open it up.

[gery82]

OK, so even if the serial number matches with the papers, it still can be a fake or franken, right?

[dominic.warren]

Looks ok but have it checked by a AD might cost a little but well worth the investment

[dominic.warren]

Yes a movement can be replaced with a non rolex one so best to have a watch maker look at it

[beshannon]

My first impression is why do you want to buy this watch from this seller?

[samshah]

Originally Posted by beshannon

My first impression is why do you want to buy this watch from this seller?

I think this a really good starting point in your search. I'm sure the seller is asking a decent chunk of change for the Daytona. If you have doubts that can't be addressed by a reputable AD or watch repair facility, move on with your search.

[gery82]

Originally Posted by beshannon

My first impression is why do you want to buy this watch from this seller?

Too good of a deal, but at the same too suspicious too ... so right, might better off moving on.

[427_Monster]

Originally Posted by gery82

Too good of a deal, but at the same too suspicious too ... so right, might better off moving on.

If it sounds too good to be true...

[gery82]

Originally Posted by 427_Monster

If it sounds too good to be true...

Right I know

[WAK4]

Originally Posted by gery82

Too good of a deal, but at the same too suspicious too ... so right, might better off moving on.

Think you answered your own question.

[gery82]

Originally Posted by WAK4

Think you answered your own question.

It seems like

Thanks anyways!

[jrs146]

Originally Posted by gery82

Too good of a deal, but at the same too suspicious too ... so right, might better off moving on.

Good choice. 99% of the time when people get taken for a ride it's chasing a deal that is just too good to be true. We all want the "best" deal, but that risk can come at a price. I'm to the point where I'd rather pay a little more (and usually it really is just a few hunderd dollars more) for peace of mind that my watch is 100% authentic.

[AK797]

The chrono hand doesn't look aligned at 12.

[kirksingleton]

great points!
in fact, the sellers that I buy from, I never question the authentication. Of course I give it the basic check when it arrives but I never think of it again. Buy the seller....

[Canook]

A lot of these dodgy ebay sellers get genuine pics from elsewhere so be careful as its not always the actual watch you will get....... ive had a few where ive asked them to take a picture of the watch,stamped warranty card(both sides) on a piece of paper with their name and date on it.
if he is genuine then it shouldnt be a problem... if not move along and let it go as its too much of a risk

[tritium8]

The fit between the endlink corners and the case looks a little off.

[Daytona88]

Originally Posted by gery82

OK, so even if the serial number matches with the papers, it still can be a fake or franken, right?

Yes and yes

[gery82]

Hello,

Another Daytona on my radar. Pics are very good, papers, box etc. even the seller provided her ID.

Here are the photos provided by the seller: http://s61.photobucket.com/user/tsc2...ytona%20116520

Only question is can I trust enough to pay by wire transfer in advance??

What do you guys think?

[LazyDaniel]

buy the seller. If you're questioning if it is safe to wire transfer or if the watch is even real, then move on.

[beshannon]

Originally Posted by gery82

Only question is can I trust enough to pay by wire transfer in advance??

What do you guys think?

Is the price so good that you are willing to wire money to a seller without any references?

[Mick P]

Originally Posted by gery82

Thanks, the seller says it has box and papers if the serial number checks out with the papers then it's good, right?

Anyways I'm gonna ask better quality photos.

NO NO NO

One of the biggest self cons is that matching papers prove a watch is genuine.

It is dead easy to print/forge a set of papers complete with water marks, silver foils, perforations, sequential numbering etc etc.

I used to buy security print as part of my job and there is a massive forgery industry out there.

It is easier to forge good quality paper work than what it is to forge a Rolex.

Quite often a genuine Rolex is bought without papers and a set of papers are printed to order and then the value increases.

Most large cities have a printer, who on a Saturday morning, will run out forged parking tickets, concert tickets etc.

It really is a thriving industry and yet every mug under the sun feels safe with a set of papers.

Regards

Mick

[jrs146]

Originally Posted by gery82

Hello,

Another Daytona on my radar. Pics are very good, papers, box etc. even the seller provided her ID.

Here are the photos provided by the seller: http://s61.photobucket.com/user/tsc2...ytona%20116520

Only question is can I trust enough to pay by wire transfer in advance??

What do you guys think?

It's impossible to be 100% sure if you can't trust the seller. Even if the pics match up there is no guarantee that they will actually ship you anything. If you have any doubts about the seller - don't do it. It's just not worth it. I'm sure you can find one for a few hundred dollars more from a trusted seller or forum member here with no worries.

[landroverking]

Originally Posted by tritium8

The fit between the endlink corners and the case looks a little off.

I think it has been over polished.

[gery82]

Originally Posted by Mick P

NO NO NO



One of the biggest self cons is that matching papers prove a watch is genuine.



It is dead easy to print/forge a set of papers complete with water marks, silver foils, perforations, sequential numbering etc etc.



I used to buy security print as part of my job and there is a massive forgery industry out there.



It is easier to forge good quality paper work than what it is to forge a Rolex.



Quite often a genuine Rolex is bought without papers and a set of papers are printed to order and then the value increases.



Most large cities have a printer, who on a Saturday morning, will run out forged parking tickets, concert tickets etc.



It really is a thriving industry and yet every mug under the sun feels safe with a set of papers.



Regards



Mick

What you think even her ID and driver's license are fake??


The Swiss Connection - Vintage Watches

[Mick P]

Originally Posted by gery82

What you think even her ID and driver's license are fake??


The Swiss Connection - Vintage Watches

I have seen very good fake British driving licenses.

I cannot stress enough, it is a very big industry.

Mick

[LazyDaniel]

We're trying to help you to avoid being scammed. It's up to you whether or not you want to listen to our advice

[beshannon]

Originally Posted by gery82

What you think even her ID and driver's license are fake??


The Swiss Connection - Vintage Watches

This would be the last thing I would want to see to prove that a watch is authentic.