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WristEnvy · 6 July 2016, 01:57 AM

I had a 312 for awhile and it lost its wrist time after getting into Rolex. I sold it and purchased a DSSD with the funds.

I've been casually visiting this sub forum the last few weeks and starting to get that itch again. Over the weekend I was out shopping with my wife and visited a watchmaker/used dealer I've used in the past that was in the area. I tried on a preowned 233 w/ dot dial and a 270. I really really dig the look of the domed crystal. Now I see why so many covet the 233.

Anyways the owner said if I was serious we can work something out on the 233. The last month or so I've been obsessing over an AP RO and thought about getting one for my 40th bday. Getting the 233 would derail that a bit, but looking at preowned or even BNIB from trusted sellers, it looks like AP RO can be had when ready (except the blue dialed non-jumbo ones).

Well don't want this to be a PAM vs AP thread, as they are apples vs oranges. Looking at watch recon, 233 dot dial aren't as common, but I'm sure they show up for sale now and then.

Hmm decisions decisions...

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ocwatching · 6 July 2016, 02:43 AM

233 would be now considered a classic PAM in their ever growning releases..
buy right I think its a great keeper of an excellent inhouse-44mm pam..yes that dome is awesome...

good luck in your hunt

mfer · 6 July 2016, 06:31 AM

It is becoming an iconic watch!

Al1969 · 6 July 2016, 06:58 AM

I say go for the 233.

Lordofrolex · 6 July 2016, 07:16 AM

As a PAM owner myself. Im personally more drawn to APs as i progress through my collection. Don't think i would get rid of my PAM but personally I'm the market for an AP. If you already had PAMs before and never an AP i would go with something new in terms of watch brands acquired.

Stack · 6 July 2016, 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Lordofrolex

As a PAM owner myself. Im personally more drawn to APs as i progress through my collection. Don't think i would get rid of my PAM but personally I'm the market for an AP. If you already had PAMs before and never an AP i would go with something new in terms of watch brands acquired.

I'm going it he same direction. I think my next purchase will be an AP as well. Definitely feels like a natural progression.

WJGESQ · 6 July 2016, 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Stack

I'm going it he same direction. I think my next purchase will be an AP as well. Definitely feels like a natural progression.

Other than something new, are the APs better or what?

Cru Jones · 6 July 2016, 03:36 PM

I would be tempted to try something new (the RO) since you already had a PAM. That being said, if you really miss the look and the straps, the 233 is one of the best choices you can make. I personally wouldn't pay much of a premium for the dot, though.

CLuxlover · 6 July 2016, 03:54 PM

233! :)

mickyd329 · 6 July 2016, 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Stack

I'm going it he same direction. I think my next purchase will be an AP as well. Definitely feels like a natural progression.

I must be doing it backwards.. lol. I'm going from multiple AP's to taking a hard look at Panerai these days. Really fascinated with the brand lately. Just so many models with slight variations. I'm learning a ton on this sub forum..

jmrxtr · 10 July 2016, 01:37 PM

have to wait until my kids out of college to score an AP RO. Lusting, waiting, saving.

SMLbranding · 11 July 2016, 09:19 AM

I had a PAM 233 with dot dial and I regret ever selling it. Of the five Panerai's I've owned, that was by far my favorite.

Jcgul · 11 July 2016, 10:49 AM

The 233 is simple perfection. I am a HUGE panerai fan, and truly feel like it is the only panerai I need. It slays the desire for other Pams that I once had, as "panerai-nirvana" is accomplished with the 233. It's actually forced me to look into other brands, as my panerai itch is happily satisfied.

B. Doggy · 15 July 2016, 12:32 PM

I've seen 233 love come and go a number of times over the years. Hot then not..hot then not...good watch though in my book. The fang just turns me off personally is all.

TickTopia · 15 July 2016, 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by cru jones

i would be tempted to try something new (the ro) since you already had a pam. That being said, if you really miss the look and the straps, the 233 is one of the best choices you can make. I personally wouldn't pay much of a premium for the dot, though.

+1

jjcthe1 · 17 July 2016, 08:33 AM

233 is nice. So is the 311. I was torn between the two and went w a 311 because it was new. I've been wanting to buy an AP RO for years but there isn't a model I love enough yet. Tried a few in person and really like them but none really make me feel like I have to have it like my pams

eal15 · 17 July 2016, 12:33 PM

Ah, I had a 351. I loved the titanium weight and gold hands. I've also had 2 311's. I loved the gmt ,that is by far my favourite gmt function on the market. But I had movement issues on both my 311's multiple times. Ultimately I sold both and my 351 and eventually bought a new AP roo diver 15710. Still have hat but miss my panerai's. Now I'm saving to get either another 351 or a 233. This would be my daily wearer, I love the seconds reset and gmt of the 233 and the gold hands and titanium case make it a great daily watch. I can't decide!

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DOUBLE 0 SE7EN · 17 July 2016, 06:47 PM

Perfection..

6 July 2016, 01:57 AM	#1
WristEnvy "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2015 Real Name: Ray Location: Berkeley, CA Watch: IG @watch.kakashi Posts: 2,579	Return to Panerai? I had a 312 for awhile and it lost its wrist time after getting into Rolex. I sold it and purchased a DSSD with the funds. I've been casually visiting this sub forum the last few weeks and starting to get that itch again. Over the weekend I was out shopping with my wife and visited a watchmaker/used dealer I've used in the past that was in the area. I tried on a preowned 233 w/ dot dial and a 270. I really really dig the look of the domed crystal. Now I see why so many covet the 233. Anyways the owner said if I was serious we can work something out on the 233. The last month or so I've been obsessing over an AP RO and thought about getting one for my 40th bday. Getting the 233 would derail that a bit, but looking at preowned or even BNIB from trusted sellers, it looks like AP RO can be had when ready (except the blue dialed non-jumbo ones). Well don't want this to be a PAM vs AP thread, as they are apples vs oranges. Looking at watch recon, 233 dot dial aren't as common, but I'm sure they show up for sale now and then. Hmm decisions decisions... Sent from my Nexus 5X using Tapatalk

6 July 2016, 02:43 AM	#2
ocwatching "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Real Name: Phil Location: CA Posts: 5,374	233 would be now considered a classic PAM in their ever growning releases.. buy right I think its a great keeper of an excellent inhouse-44mm pam..yes that dome is awesome... good luck in your hunt __________________ too much into watches...

6 July 2016, 06:31 AM	#3
mfer "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Real Name: Mik Location: USA Posts: 13,724	It is becoming an iconic watch! __________________ member#3242

6 July 2016, 06:58 AM	#4
Al1969 2025 Pledge Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: New Jersey Posts: 6,653	I say go for the 233. Attached Images __________________ WG SUB-116719 GMT MASTER II 126719

6 July 2016, 07:16 AM	#5
Lordofrolex "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2015 Real Name: Brandon Location: Los Angeles, CA Watch: Yes Please! Posts: 6,691	As a PAM owner myself. Im personally more drawn to APs as i progress through my collection. Don't think i would get rid of my PAM but personally I'm the market for an AP. If you already had PAMs before and never an AP i would go with something new in terms of watch brands acquired. __________________ Rolex GMT Master II 116710LN Panerai PAM 359 Audemars Piguet RO 15300OR Follow me on Instagram: @b_jakobovich

6 July 2016, 03:36 PM	#8
Cru Jones 2025 Pledge Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: CET Posts: 35,557	I would be tempted to try something new (the RO) since you already had a PAM. That being said, if you really miss the look and the straps, the 233 is one of the best choices you can make. I personally wouldn't pay much of a premium for the dot, though.

6 July 2016, 03:54 PM	#9
CLuxlover "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2016 Location: Bay Area Posts: 86	233! :)

10 July 2016, 01:37 PM	#11
jmrxtr "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2015 Real Name: Jon Location: Portland, OR Watch: PamRolexIWC Posts: 649	have to wait until my kids out of college to score an AP RO. Lusting, waiting, saving.

11 July 2016, 09:19 AM	#12
SMLbranding "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2016 Real Name: Scott Leslie Location: Vero Beach, FL Watch: Still looking Posts: 37	I had a PAM 233 with dot dial and I regret ever selling it. Of the five Panerai's I've owned, that was by far my favorite.

11 July 2016, 10:49 AM	#13
Jcgul "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: NYC Posts: 50	The 233 is simple perfection. I am a HUGE panerai fan, and truly feel like it is the only panerai I need. It slays the desire for other Pams that I once had, as "panerai-nirvana" is accomplished with the 233. It's actually forced me to look into other brands, as my panerai itch is happily satisfied.

15 July 2016, 12:32 PM	#14
B. Doggy "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Real Name: Bryan Location: Oregon Posts: 7,399	I've seen 233 love come and go a number of times over the years. Hot then not..hot then not...good watch though in my book. The fang just turns me off personally is all. __________________ Rolex / Panerai / Omega

17 July 2016, 08:33 AM	#16
jjcthe1 "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: Tampa, FL Posts: 74	233 is nice. So is the 311. I was torn between the two and went w a 311 because it was new. I've been wanting to buy an AP RO for years but there isn't a model I love enough yet. Tried a few in person and really like them but none really make me feel like I have to have it like my pams

17 July 2016, 12:33 PM	#17
eal15 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2015 Real Name: Everett Location: GTA, Canada Watch: Audemars Piguet 15 Posts: 789	Ah, I had a 351. I loved the titanium weight and gold hands. I've also had 2 311's. I loved the gmt ,that is by far my favourite gmt function on the market. But I had movement issues on both my 311's multiple times. Ultimately I sold both and my 351 and eventually bought a new AP roo diver 15710. Still have hat but miss my panerai's. Now I'm saving to get either another 351 or a 233. This would be my daily wearer, I love the seconds reset and gmt of the 233 and the gold hands and titanium case make it a great daily watch. I can't decide! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

17 July 2016, 06:47 PM	#18
DOUBLE 0 SE7EN "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Real Name: KAAN Location: ISTANBUL Watch: Explorer-PAM233 Posts: 1,652	Perfection..

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