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Old 15 July 2016, 04:34 AM   #1
thenewguyguys
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Thoughts on 5513 meterfirst

Serial Number: 245XXXX
Steel Rolex Bracelet Ref. 9315 and Leather Strap by JPM
Year: 1970

What do you guys think about the case and dial, asking price is $10554.
and also what do you think about the price
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Old 15 July 2016, 04:45 AM   #2
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That is a very strong price, especially for head only. Hands appear a different shade from dial, implying that they've been replaced. Crown is correct. Crystal appears aftermarket. Dial is generally ok, but tritium is flaking on the 9 o'clock index and detracts visually somewhat from the overall appearance. 2.45 is very iffy for metres first range in many members books here. Generally, 2.2M and below is acknowledged to the the undisputed MF range. Of course, it's not impossible as some watch needed to be the last watch, you know?

So, between asking price, condition, and (lack of) completeness and provenance, this doesn't add up to a solid BUY recommendation, at least for me.

That being said, if the price were substantially lower, then that consideration could argue for a buy. But in one sentence, condition and price do not match up here.
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Old 15 July 2016, 05:41 AM   #3
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Picture 4: right hand lug is soft and rounded compared to the opposite. Would pass on that alone.
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Old 15 July 2016, 05:48 AM   #4
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That is a very strong price, especially for head only.
OP said it came with a 9315, a new bracelet runs USD500+, so there's that. Agree with other points but even more - I'd want to see the hands in a different position so they're not obscuring the lettering, anything could be going on under there
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Old 15 July 2016, 08:24 AM   #5
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Too expensive for a Meter First.
Maybe for a Maxi.
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Old 15 July 2016, 08:30 AM   #6
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Too expensive for a Meter First.
Maybe for a Maxi.
:o didn't know maxi subs cost more then some M'first
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Old 15 July 2016, 08:32 AM   #7
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That is a very strong price, especially for head only. Hands appear a different shade from dial, implying that they've been replaced. Crown is correct. Crystal appears aftermarket. Dial is generally ok, but tritium is flaking on the 9 o'clock index and detracts visually somewhat from the overall appearance. 2.45 is very iffy for metres first range in many members books here. Generally, 2.2M and below is acknowledged to the the undisputed MF range. Of course, it's not impossible as some watch needed to be the last watch, you know?

So, between asking price, condition, and (lack of) completeness and provenance, this doesn't add up to a solid BUY recommendation, at least for me.

That being said, if the price were substantially lower, then that consideration could argue for a buy. But in one sentence, condition and price do not match up here.
Thanks for the info! I'll skip on this one then, I was looking to replace my 5513 mk4 with that one but I guess I'll keep mine untill I find somethjng better
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Old 15 July 2016, 08:46 AM   #8
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:o didn't know maxi subs cost more then some M'first
The real differentiator is the condition. Best condition will fetch the best price, ahead of when the dial was made.
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