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Old 13 October 2016, 09:39 AM   #1
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Winding my 1603

Hi guys,

I recently acquired a 1603 which was serviced recently, according to the seller.
I find that winding the watch is not as smooth as on my Explorer and Sub.
Is this what I shall expect from a 1603 even if it's been serviced a couple of months ago?
Also, on the wrist, the accuracy is pretty good, but when on the winder, it's losing several seconds a day. I wonder why is that...
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Old 13 October 2016, 10:42 AM   #2
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Several seconds per days is well within COSC specs. Did you mean minutes?
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Old 13 October 2016, 12:36 PM   #3
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as Adam mentioned several seconds per day is nothing to worry about. winding-wise it's not unusual for one watch to feel different from another depending on quite a few factors such as tightness of the o-rings against the stem and even the "tightness" of the auto wind mechanism can alter the crown feel when manually winding. also, the 1500 series movements do feel different than the 3000 series when manually winding which may explain any difference you are feeling between watches.
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Old 13 October 2016, 04:24 PM   #4
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Often watches don't keep time very well on winders.

I wouldn't be worried so much about that. A 15xx movement will also be more affected by that with the slower beat and more age and position error.

The better the winder...the better the time.

Since many of them are really only timing in one plane...and many also in vertical positions....it's not unexpected for me.

The winders that watchmakers use and Rolex uses are all positions...varying constantly.
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Old 13 October 2016, 04:25 PM   #5
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The new seals may be very snug for the winding. You can add a touch of clear silicone grease to the shank of the winding crown if you pull it out to the set position. Just a film.

This may ease it up a tiny bit.
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Old 13 October 2016, 10:45 PM   #6
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Thanks for all your inputs.

I really did mean seconds, not minutes. I know it's no big deal, just thought it was surprising since the watch is spot on when worn. But then I noticed that my Sub also lost some seconds on the winder, while also being very accurate on the wrist. I'll blame the winder.
I'd really like to provide a wrist shot, but I'm unable to post pictures.. is there a way to upload directly from a phone/ipad?
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Old 14 October 2016, 09:21 AM   #7
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Yes below the message box when you hit reply...there is another section that says...

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Click on manage attachments..

A second window opens to the left..and you can upload directly from your computer.
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Thanks!

Here is the wristshot.
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Thanks for all your inputs.

I really did mean seconds, not minutes. I know it's no big deal, just thought it was surprising since the watch is spot on when worn. But then I noticed that my Sub also lost some seconds on the winder, while also being very accurate on the wrist. I'll blame the winder.
As Tommy said, many winders keep the watch in effectively one position, while on the wrist it is averaging several positions. This is likely just positional variation of one of them.
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