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Paul_I · 19 October 2016, 03:05 AM

Hello AP Section,

I'm considering my first AP. A friend of mine owns a reference #26120ST.OO.1220ST.01 and is considering letting it go for what I think is a good price. It is in very, very nice condition.

My question for the forum is: would you consider this to be a good option even if it would be my only AP (at least for some time)? Do you have a better suggestion for me should I only buy one for my collection?

Thanks in advance.

https://www.audemarspiguet.com/en/wa...T.OO.1220ST.01

WristEnvy · 19 October 2016, 04:02 AM

I think that's a fine choice for a one and only AP. I'm a fan of GMT and dual time watches. I've been tempted to flip or trade my ro 15400st for Takuya's black dual time.

If APSC won't give me the option to swap my 15400 dial to blue, I may consider going for a dual time myself.

ig - @kakashi_gram

Lordofrolex · 19 October 2016, 04:05 AM

Not a bad first AP watch. If you want something sporty i would consider a AP diver or ROO. But if you were leaning towards a RO then i would say a dual time is a great choice over lets say a normal 15400 or 15300.

Tay821 · 19 October 2016, 04:31 AM

That's a great 1st and only AP.

I've actually considered it as well...now, if I could only find one in the flesh to see that dial

Hairdude1 · 19 October 2016, 07:45 AM

Great choice!

SMD · 19 October 2016, 08:01 AM

I love AP and I love dual time watches, but for me the AP Dual Time just doesn't work. Personally, for a one and only it would have to be a Royal Oak. Depending on budget that means 15202 or 15400/300.

Paul_I · 19 October 2016, 08:16 AM

Thanks for the responses. It is definitely an unorthodox look.

lapince · 19 October 2016, 08:26 AM

blue is great, white not for me

Paul_I · 19 October 2016, 08:32 AM

I'm on the fence about the white face as well, and I don't own any blue faced watches because I always felt they wouldn't match as easily.

AK797 · 19 October 2016, 08:36 AM

As dual times go the AP is not one of my faves, and I'd rather have a simpler RO, plus resale is stronger on those too.

masterserg · 19 October 2016, 09:54 AM

Not my favorite ... would go 15300/400 depending on wrist size and preference. Of course, if budget allows, 15202 is a no brainer.

If you prefer bigger, sportier watches, then you'll need to look into the ROO line (44mm being the king of the hill).

DECR · 19 October 2016, 10:12 AM

I have always liked the dual time. Good as an only AP.

benlee · 19 October 2016, 10:18 AM

I would go for the 15400 or 153000 as a first AP or if your budget allows go straight to the Jumbo 15202ST.

WristEnvy · 19 October 2016, 10:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SMD

I love AP and I love dual time watches, but for me the AP Dual Time just doesn't work. Personally, for a one and only it would have to be a Royal Oak. Depending on budget that means 15202 or 15400/300.

Quote:

Originally Posted by AK797

As dual times go the AP is not one of my faves, and I'd rather have a simpler RO, plus resale is stronger on those too.

Curious on your thoughts on its dual time functionality. I saw in some older threads folks praising its usefulness.

Thanks!

ig - @kakashi_gram

SMD · 19 October 2016, 11:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WristEnvy

Curious on your thoughts on its dual time functionality. I saw in some older threads folks praising its usefulness.

Thanks!

ig - @kakashi_gram

I like the dual time functionality, but visually I don't think its as well executed as it could be. I have three other GMTs but no desire for the AP. So very useful for me as I travel a lot, but visually, meh...many others I prefer more.

AK797 · 19 October 2016, 11:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SMD

I like the dual time functionality, but visually I don't think its as well executed as it could be. I have three other GMTs but no desire for the AP. So very useful for me as I travel a lot, but visually, meh...many others I prefer more.

Same here, big fan of the comp but not of the dial layout here.

bayerische · 19 October 2016, 06:25 PM

I had the 26120 in rose gold. I got bored of it very quickly!

jrs146 · 20 October 2016, 04:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AK797

As dual times go the AP is not one of my faves, and I'd rather have a simpler RO, plus resale is stronger on those too.

This

texex91 · 20 October 2016, 05:20 AM

For your first I'd look at something else.

Paul_I · 20 October 2016, 06:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by texex91

For your first I'd look at something else.

I think you may be right. It is interesting, but so are other options I've been looking at that are less expensive.

srvrf · 20 October 2016, 08:28 AM

If it sings to you go for it. But if you're more tempted because its your friend and because it is a good price, you'll probably end up moving it later at a loss. I've also had an opinion that GMT watches look better because of better symmetry and since when I travel I'm often in pools/lakes/oceans, I want more than 50m WR. I don't want to have to put it in the hotel safe

wisguy · 20 October 2016, 12:50 PM

It's aactually a great choice... Very useful complication and you rarely see one in the wild

One of the trusted sellers has a black dial version just serviced for sale, make sure to compare the price.

jack81 · 20 October 2016, 02:25 PM

I was debating between dual time and chrono. Same size 39mm. At the end i choose chrono because dual time doesnt have second hand.

bayerische · 20 October 2016, 06:27 PM

Another not so great aspect of the DT is that the movement isn't at all AP. Nothing wrong with JLC, but the same exact movement is also in JLC watches.

It wasn't a deal breaker for me, but for a 36K euro watch I'd expect a bit more...

It is a nice complication, but the dial is very very busy. After a while it gets to you.

nakedtoes · 21 October 2016, 12:55 AM

The AP dual time is my first AP.. loves the dual time and power reserve complication .. although it is using similiar JLC movement but 1 crown you can set all the features. JLC and VC have similar one but they need another crown and it looks ugly.. i feel AP the best looking of the 3. However i would like to highlight 3 bad points..

1. You might have difficulty telling the date as sometime the hands would block the date wheel plus the date below are inverted (doesnt helps)

2. If you dun wear the watch often u need a winder cause it is quite an as5 to change date. You need to adjust to 9pm then to over 12 then the date jump one. There is no quick set for date.

3. The watch (9 mth old) stop on my twice with the power reserve at full (i have a few watches in rotation but they are always in winders). Both time it stop at 15:15 hours.. i send it in for repair but AP said nothing wrong with watch and passed QC... sold the watch immediately.

jack81 · 21 October 2016, 01:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nakedtoes

The AP dual time is my first AP.. loves the dual time and power reserve complication .. although it is using similiar JLC movement but 1 crown you can set all the features. JLC and VC have similar one but they need another crown and it looks ugly.. i feel AP the best looking of the 3. However i would like to highlight 3 bad points..

1. You might have difficulty telling the date as sometime the hands would block the date wheel plus the date below are inverted (doesnt helps)

2. If you dun wear the watch often u need a winder cause it is quite an as5 to change date. You need to adjust to 9pm then to over 12 then the date jump one. There is no quick set for date.

3. The watch (9 mth old) stop on my twice with the power reserve at full (i have a few watches in rotation but they are always in winders). Both time it stop at 15:15 hours.. i send it in for repair but AP said nothing wrong with watch and passed QC... sold the watch immediately.

Thank you for your post. Glad i didnt get the dual time.

texex91 · 21 October 2016, 09:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul_I

I think you may be right. It is interesting, but so are other options I've been looking at that are less expensive.

What is your budget?

Don't buy an AP just because it's the least expensive, but a watch because you love it. If you really like one, it might be worth the wait to save a little until you can fit it in the budget.

My .02.

Paul_I · 24 October 2016, 10:16 PM

I decided to hold off for now - these were some great comments. Thanks for the advice.

goog53 · 24 October 2016, 10:53 PM

Holding off is a smart move. Set your sights on a must have piece and wait for when the time is right. I like the dual time but only with the blue dial.

donut · 24 October 2016, 11:25 PM

I'm a big fan of dual-time watches.
But, if only one AP, I would recommend 15202ST (40th anniversary).

19 October 2016, 03:05 AM	#1
Paul_I "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2015 Location: USA Posts: 1,448	I'm on the fence - please help! ROYAL OAK DUAL TIME REF. #26120ST.OO.1220ST.01 Hello AP Section, I'm considering my first AP. A friend of mine owns a reference #26120ST.OO.1220ST.01 and is considering letting it go for what I think is a good price. It is in very, very nice condition. My question for the forum is: would you consider this to be a good option even if it would be my only AP (at least for some time)? Do you have a better suggestion for me should I only buy one for my collection? Thanks in advance. https://www.audemarspiguet.com/en/wa...T.OO.1220ST.01 __________________

19 October 2016, 04:05 AM	#3
Lordofrolex "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2015 Real Name: Brandon Location: Los Angeles, CA Watch: Yes Please! Posts: 6,691	Not a bad first AP watch. If you want something sporty i would consider a AP diver or ROO. But if you were leaning towards a RO then i would say a dual time is a great choice over lets say a normal 15400 or 15300. __________________ Rolex GMT Master II 116710LN Panerai PAM 359 Audemars Piguet RO 15300OR Follow me on Instagram: @b_jakobovich

19 October 2016, 07:45 AM	#5
Hairdude1 "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Real Name: Alex Location: Chicago Watch: AP,PP, Rolex Posts: 37,156	Great choice! __________________ Instagram: @Hairdude Watches in Collection 5070R, 5522A, 214270 MK1, 228238 16750, 26401, 5711, 116718, 116710LN, 116300, 16710"Coke", 372, 15300, 15703 (All Flipped) Official Member "Perpetual 30" Las Vegas GTG 2016 Official Member "WIS-CON" Las Vegas International GTG 2017 Official Member 'WIS-CON' Las Vegas Int'l GTG 2018

19 October 2016, 08:16 AM	#7
Paul_I "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2015 Location: USA Posts: 1,448	Thanks for the responses. It is definitely an unorthodox look. __________________

19 October 2016, 08:32 AM	#9
Paul_I "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2015 Location: USA Posts: 1,448	I'm on the fence about the white face as well, and I don't own any blue faced watches because I always felt they wouldn't match as easily. __________________

19 October 2016, 04:02 AM	#2
WristEnvy "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2015 Real Name: Ray Location: Berkeley, CA Watch: IG @watch.kakashi Posts: 2,579	I think that's a fine choice for a one and only AP. I'm a fan of GMT and dual time watches. I've been tempted to flip or trade my ro 15400st for Takuya's black dual time. If APSC won't give me the option to swap my 15400 dial to blue, I may consider going for a dual time myself. ig - @kakashi_gram

19 October 2016, 04:31 AM	#4
Tay821 "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: USA Posts: 913	That's a great 1st and only AP. I've actually considered it as well...now, if I could only find one in the flesh to see that dial

19 October 2016, 08:01 AM	#6
SMD "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Real Name: SMD Location: LGA/EWR/ORD Watch: AP/PP Posts: 3,710	I love AP and I love dual time watches, but for me the AP Dual Time just doesn't work. Personally, for a one and only it would have to be a Royal Oak. Depending on budget that means 15202 or 15400/300.

19 October 2016, 08:26 AM	#8
lapince "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Mars Watch: 5712 Posts: 11,509	blue is great, white not for me

19 October 2016, 08:36 AM	#10
AK797 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Real Name: Neil Location: UK Watch: ing ships roll in Posts: 59,369	As dual times go the AP is not one of my faves, and I'd rather have a simpler RO, plus resale is stronger on those too.

19 October 2016, 09:54 AM	#11
masterserg "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Real Name: Serg Location: US of A Watch: AP Posts: 7,437	Not my favorite ... would go 15300/400 depending on wrist size and preference. Of course, if budget allows, 15202 is a no brainer. If you prefer bigger, sportier watches, then you'll need to look into the ROO line (44mm being the king of the hill). __________________ How can you have any pudding if you don't eat yer meat????

19 October 2016, 10:12 AM	#12
DECR "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2013 Real Name: Diego Location: Mexico Watch: PP,AL&S,AP,Rolex Posts: 825	I have always liked the dual time. Good as an only AP.

19 October 2016, 10:18 AM	#13
benlee "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2012 Real Name: Ben Location: SIN & JKT Watch: Rolex, AP, PP Posts: 9,874	I would go for the 15400 or 153000 as a first AP or if your budget allows go straight to the Jumbo 15202ST. __________________ Follow me on Instagram : benlee789

19 October 2016, 06:25 PM	#17
bayerische "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Real Name: Andreas Location: Margaritaville Watch: Smurf Posts: 19,879	I had the 26120 in rose gold. I got bored of it very quickly! __________________ Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man.

20 October 2016, 05:20 AM	#19
texex91 "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: . Posts: 17,898	For your first I'd look at something else.

20 October 2016, 08:28 AM	#21
srvrf 2025 Pledge Member Join Date: Dec 2013 Real Name: Steve Location: Indiana Watch: PP/AP/VC Posts: 2,178	If it sings to you go for it. But if you're more tempted because its your friend and because it is a good price, you'll probably end up moving it later at a loss. I've also had an opinion that GMT watches look better because of better symmetry and since when I travel I'm often in pools/lakes/oceans, I want more than 50m WR. I don't want to have to put it in the hotel safe

20 October 2016, 12:50 PM	#22
wisguy "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Earth Posts: 2,406	It's aactually a great choice... Very useful complication and you rarely see one in the wild One of the trusted sellers has a black dial version just serviced for sale, make sure to compare the price. __________________ 5230G / 5146G / 124060 / BB58 / '59 Constellation

20 October 2016, 02:25 PM	#23
jack81 "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2012 Location: planet rolex Posts: 1,728	I was debating between dual time and chrono. Same size 39mm. At the end i choose chrono because dual time doesnt have second hand.

20 October 2016, 06:27 PM	#24
bayerische "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Real Name: Andreas Location: Margaritaville Watch: Smurf Posts: 19,879	Another not so great aspect of the DT is that the movement isn't at all AP. Nothing wrong with JLC, but the same exact movement is also in JLC watches. It wasn't a deal breaker for me, but for a 36K euro watch I'd expect a bit more... It is a nice complication, but the dial is very very busy. After a while it gets to you. __________________ Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man.

21 October 2016, 12:55 AM	#25
nakedtoes "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: singapore Posts: 122	The AP dual time is my first AP.. loves the dual time and power reserve complication .. although it is using similiar JLC movement but 1 crown you can set all the features. JLC and VC have similar one but they need another crown and it looks ugly.. i feel AP the best looking of the 3. However i would like to highlight 3 bad points.. 1. You might have difficulty telling the date as sometime the hands would block the date wheel plus the date below are inverted (doesnt helps) 2. If you dun wear the watch often u need a winder cause it is quite an as5 to change date. You need to adjust to 9pm then to over 12 then the date jump one. There is no quick set for date. 3. The watch (9 mth old) stop on my twice with the power reserve at full (i have a few watches in rotation but they are always in winders). Both time it stop at 15:15 hours.. i send it in for repair but AP said nothing wrong with watch and passed QC... sold the watch immediately.

24 October 2016, 10:16 PM	#28
Paul_I "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2015 Location: USA Posts: 1,448	I decided to hold off for now - these were some great comments. Thanks for the advice. __________________

24 October 2016, 10:53 PM	#29
goog53 "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Real Name: Mike G Location: Ohio Watch: Rolex-Patek-AP Posts: 3,080	Holding off is a smart move. Set your sights on a must have piece and wait for when the time is right. I like the dual time but only with the blue dial. __________________ The only thing better than the watches are the people behind them. "The best watch in the world is the one that's on your wrist." Morgan King "Do you like having a good time? Then you need a good watch!" Rocky Balboa

24 October 2016, 11:25 PM	#30
donut "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2016 Real Name: Jerry Location: Unseen Thailand Watch: LN/LV/BLNR Posts: 543	I'm a big fan of dual-time watches. But, if only one AP, I would recommend 15202ST (40th anniversary).

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