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tonylam · 23 November 2016, 06:29 AM

This watch is by this same guy! https://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-5...RK%3AMESE%3AIT

GLADIATOR · 23 November 2016, 06:38 AM

I dont think its fake.
Refinished dial, yes?

Not reported

Kiaraff · 23 November 2016, 07:25 AM

Sorry, case is fake!

GLADIATOR · 23 November 2016, 07:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kiaraff

Sorry, case is fake!

Care to share how? I could not verify that.
Adam

Old Expat Beast · 23 November 2016, 07:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GLADIATOR

Care to share how? I could not verify that.
Adam

Your friend Terry, isn't it?

GLADIATOR · 23 November 2016, 07:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Old Expat Beast

Your friend Terry, isn't it?

Truthfully Adam, I got no idea. My post was genuine, I got no idea if that case is custom.
Nothing tricky on my part.
Adam H

EDIT: and KIARAFF registered 2015. I dont think Terry?

Old Expat Beast · 23 November 2016, 08:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GLADIATOR

Truthfully Adam, I got no idea. My post was genuine, I got no idea if that case is custom.
Nothing tricky on my part.
Adam H

You're not familiar with watchgroupcorp?

GLADIATOR · 23 November 2016, 08:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Old Expat Beast

You're not familiar with watchgroupcorp?

No, I do not believe so.
I am doing nothing tricky at all - not sure where you are coming from. Sorry

Old Expat Beast · 23 November 2016, 08:06 AM

I'm surprised you forgot, after this episode: www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=487316

GLADIATOR · 23 November 2016, 08:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Old Expat Beast

I'm surprised you forgot, after this episode: www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=487316

I remember the name Terry Allinson, but not the group.

But what has that to do with Kiaraff who you quoted?

Anyway, I PM you to take off line

My apologies if I did anything wrong, it was NOT my intention
adam

Old Expat Beast · 23 November 2016, 08:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GLADIATOR

I remember the name Terry Allinson, but not the group.

But what has that to do with Kiaraff who you quoted?

Anyway, I PM you to take off line

My apologies if I did anything wrong, it was NOT my intention
adam

How about fakewatchbusta?

GLADIATOR · 23 November 2016, 08:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Old Expat Beast

How about fakewatchbusta?

Yes, as I PM you, I am a moderator there.
All I do, if I believe a watch posted there is fake I report it to ebay.

If that is a problem, I will drop my mod status there and ignore that site
Adam

freefly · 23 November 2016, 09:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Old Expat Beast

You're not familiar with watchgroupcorp?

Quote:

Originally Posted by GLADIATOR

No, I do not believe so.

Yeah, something doesn't pass the smell test here.

There have been numerous threads here regarding Watchgroupcorp, in which you have participated and acknowledged almost getting "duped" by Terry personally (he requested pics of fakes from you or some such),
and that you had even extended a free spot in one of your classes before realizing who he was. You were well aware of his association with the "fakewatchbusta" website as well.

After knowing full well that he is a fraud/scammer you sign up to his pathetic "forum" and became a moderator?
Then you don't recall being farmiliar with watchgroupcorp at all?

Please explain...

Knappo 1307 · 23 November 2016, 09:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GLADIATOR

Yes, as I PM you, I am a moderator there.
All I do, if I believe a watch posted there is fake I report it to ebay.

If that is a problem, I will drop my mod status there and ignore that site
Adam

Wait Adam, you are a moderator at Fakewatchbusta? The Dbag that runs that site has been banned from here, many many times. Why would you associate with Terry Allison?

GLADIATOR · 23 November 2016, 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Knappo 1307

Wait Adam, you are a moderator at Fakewatchbusta? The Dbag that runs that site has been banned from here, many many times. Why would you associate with Terry Allison?

Yes, I took the offer of a mod.
Call it naive.
All I am doing is reporting watches that I believe are fake!
I have never spoken or met TA or anyone associated to him.

I am VERY sorry if its upset people, and I am more than happy to stop being a mod on that site.
But I did nothing tricky, I just reported watches on Ebay.

Sorry to that
I will immediately stop moderating or visiting his site
adam

Knappo 1307 · 23 November 2016, 09:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GLADIATOR

Yes, I took the offer of a mod.
Call it naive.
All I am doing is reporting watches that I believe are fake!
I have never spoken or met TA or anyone associated to him.

I am VERY sorry if its upset people, and I am more than happy to stop being a mod on that site.
But I did nothing tricky, I just reported watches on Ebay.

Sorry to that
I will immediately stop moderating or visiting his site
adam

That's a site where he slammed a bunch of respected members on here. Wrote a bunch of lies and posted it for all to see. Even though that site is garbage, and probably very few look at it. I'm a little surprised you engaged in several back and forths with TA and seemingly struck up a friendship even after he bashed you on the site.

GLADIATOR · 23 November 2016, 09:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Knappo 1307

That's a site where he slammed a bunch of respected members on here. Wrote a bunch of lies and posted it for all to see. Even though that site is garbage, and probably very few look at it. I'm a little surprised you engaged in several back and forths with TA and seemingly struck up a friendship even after he bashed you on the site.

And I fought him like HELL to get all the bad things removed including you, David and Old Beast. You can ask David (CrownCollection)
I DID get them all taken down.
When the site approached me (and it was just a site email), I thought, well if I am a mod I can control any future claims.
No more no less.
I am happy to drop the mod.
i JUST enjoy helping others NOT get duped. I report and follow up everything with eBay.

Adam

Old Expat Beast · 23 November 2016, 10:44 AM

"I thought, well if I am a mod I can control any future claims."

But you didn't think to tell anyone on TRF that you were going"undercover", and despite spending hours a day here in the Watchout section, you didn't see a link between FWB and all the other aliases he has used on TRF, many of which can be seen as being "online" at FWB at various times?

GLADIATOR · 23 November 2016, 11:08 AM

No, I apologise, I did not.
I was offered to use a different name, but I said no, it's ok to use my original name, as I was NOT trying to hide anything.
Anyway, I have asked to be romoved, from their site, and I apologise again for being an idiot.
Adam

freefly · 23 November 2016, 11:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Knappo 1307

That's a site where he slammed a bunch of respected members on here. Wrote a bunch of lies and posted it for all to see. Even though that site is garbage, and probably very few look at it. I'm a little surprised you engaged in several back and forths with TA and seemingly struck up a friendship even after he bashed you on the site.

Yeah, it just doesn't add up.

Another head-scratcher: I was just made aware that he (Gladiator) appears to have his own forum, which "fakewatchbusta" is a member of: http://www.rolexwatchout.com/

(he has made it known previously that he goes by "HOROLOGIST007" in addition to "Gladiator" on the net)

Does not compute...

Canook · 23 November 2016, 12:21 PM

guys from a outside perspective (as ive never been on any of the other forums other than Watchseek)
I usually only look in the "Rolex general discussions" area and "watchout" because i like to see idiots that are scamming Aholes get caught out (and i try to contribute if i find them as well)
There are alot of things that go on in other areas that im unaware of based on the fact i only really visit these 2 subforums.

I have to say that i see Gladiator here quite a bit and he seems to be doing a good job helping prevent the unsuspecting getting duped out of a dud.
Just to ad a point i do not know him and have never spoken to him but ive seen his effort put in here..... This is a forum where we should all get along and be positive towards the same goal. I was a Moderator on one of the largest automotive sites in Australia for years and i found PM's the best for of communication for disagreements or questioning peoples integrity

As i said just an observation on my behalf ....... feel free to ignore me lol!

GLADIATOR · 23 November 2016, 12:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by freefly

Yeah, it just doesn't add up.

Another head-scratcher: I was just made aware that he (Gladiator) appears to have his own forum, which "fakewatchbusta" is a member of: http://www.rolexwatchout.com/

(he has made it known previously that he goes by "HOROLOGIST007" in addition to "Gladiator" on the net)

Does not compute...

Yes it DOES add up!
I do NOT have my own forum. That is INcorrect
I am a moderator on a new forum that has its own owner and own agenda!

I have always trades as GLADIATOR (early days) and HOROLOGIST007 (last few years)
I have NEVER done anything but fight against counterfeits.

What ever your problem is, I am an OK guy
I asked to be away from fakewatch.

I am an OK guy, and I have NOTHING to hide
Adam

freefly · 23 November 2016, 03:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GLADIATOR

I do NOT have my own forum. That is INcorrect
I am a moderator on a new forum that has its own owner and own agenda!

Sorry, my mistake. It looks like rolexwatchout.com is just another one of Terry's sites. However, He is trying to make it look like you own/run it. Here is a direct quote from the link below:

"Anybody here can feel free to copy any link on this forum and post it to places like Rolex Forums, Watchuseek Rolex Tudor Board, Adam's new board, Rolexwatchout.com, etc."

http://replicatimepieces.info/index....d=7&Itemid=138
(and yes, that "replicatimepeices.info" is yet another one of Terry's domains that points to his "fakewatchbusta" site).

So, it appears then that you are actually moderating for TWO of Terry's websites/forums now (fakewatchbusta.com and rolexwatchout.com).

Are you claiming that you didn't know that the rolexwatchout.com site also belongs to Terry?

Kiaraff · 23 November 2016, 06:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GLADIATOR

Truthfully Adam, I got no idea. My post was genuine, I got no idea if that case is custom.
Nothing tricky on my part.
Adam H

EDIT: and KIARAFF registered 2015. I dont think Terry?

Sorry Gladiator, I'm not Terry. Remember this thread?

http://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=484054

Old Expat Beast · 24 November 2016, 09:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by freefly

Sorry, my mistake. It looks like rolexwatchout.com is just another one of Terry's sites. However, He is trying to make it look like you own/run it. Here is a direct quote from the link below:

"Anybody here can feel free to copy any link on this forum and post it to places like Rolex Forums, Watchuseek Rolex Tudor Board, Adam's new board, Rolexwatchout.com, etc."

http://replicatimepieces.info/index....d=7&Itemid=138
(and yes, that "replicatimepeices.info" is yet another one of Terry's domains that points to his "fakewatchbusta" site).

So, it appears then that you are actually moderating for TWO of Terry's websites/forums now (fakewatchbusta.com and rolexwatchout.com).

Are you claiming that you didn't know that the rolexwatchout.com site also belongs to Terry?

x2

Kiaraff · 24 November 2016, 09:26 AM

Adam, you are in the Terry Allison Show

http://replicatimepieces.info/index....206&Itemid=149

Knappo 1307 · 24 November 2016, 09:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kiaraff

Adam, you are in the Terry Allison Show

http://replicatimepieces.info/index....206&Itemid=149

LMAO, you did it now Adam...

Chewbacca · 24 November 2016, 11:50 AM

what a mess.

usrudiver932 · 25 November 2016, 12:48 AM

Lugs dont look right same with winder. My 2 cents

23 November 2016, 06:29 AM	#1
tonylam Banned Join Date: Nov 2016 Real Name: Tony Lam Location: Kowloon HK Watch: Rolex 1680 Posts: 74	Suspicious 1665 double red seadweller This watch is by this same guy! https://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-5...RK%3AMESE%3AIT

23 November 2016, 06:38 AM	#2
GLADIATOR "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Real Name: Adam Location: Costa Blanca, Watch: YMII,GMTII,DAYTONA Posts: 5,288	I dont think its fake. Refinished dial, yes? Not reported __________________ The truth is incontrovertible. Malice may attack it, ignorance may deride it, but in the end, there it is. Winston Churchill "We judge ourselves by what we feel capable of doing, while others judge us by what we have already done."

23 November 2016, 11:08 AM	#19
GLADIATOR "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Real Name: Adam Location: Costa Blanca, Watch: YMII,GMTII,DAYTONA Posts: 5,288	No, I apologise, I did not. I was offered to use a different name, but I said no, it's ok to use my original name, as I was NOT trying to hide anything. Anyway, I have asked to be romoved, from their site, and I apologise again for being an idiot. Adam __________________ The truth is incontrovertible. Malice may attack it, ignorance may deride it, but in the end, there it is. Winston Churchill "We judge ourselves by what we feel capable of doing, while others judge us by what we have already done."

23 November 2016, 12:21 PM	#21
Canook "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2016 Real Name: Jason Location: Aussie/Malaysia Watch: too many to list Posts: 1,470	guys from a outside perspective (as ive never been on any of the other forums other than Watchseek) I usually only look in the "Rolex general discussions" area and "watchout" because i like to see idiots that are scamming Aholes get caught out (and i try to contribute if i find them as well) There are alot of things that go on in other areas that im unaware of based on the fact i only really visit these 2 subforums. I have to say that i see Gladiator here quite a bit and he seems to be doing a good job helping prevent the unsuspecting getting duped out of a dud. Just to ad a point i do not know him and have never spoken to him but ive seen his effort put in here..... This is a forum where we should all get along and be positive towards the same goal. I was a Moderator on one of the largest automotive sites in Australia for years and i found PM's the best for of communication for disagreements or questioning peoples integrity As i said just an observation on my behalf ....... feel free to ignore me lol! __________________ Current lineup -116610LV Sub -16233 Tapestry Datejust -16610LV KERMIT -116600 SD4000....16612 Yachtmaster- 16710 PEPSI -216570(polar)- -Yachtmaster II 116688 126300 Datejust 41 jubilee * Card carrying member of TRF's Global Association of Retro-Grouch-Curmudgeons *

23 November 2016, 07:25 AM	#3
Kiaraff "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2015 Location: Antwerp - Belgium Posts: 116	Sorry, case is fake!

23 November 2016, 08:06 AM	#9
Old Expat Beast TRF Moderator & 2024 SubLV41 Patron Join Date: Jul 2013 Real Name: Adam Location: Far East Watch: Golden Tuna Posts: 28,798	I'm surprised you forgot, after this episode: www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=487316

23 November 2016, 10:44 AM	#18
Old Expat Beast TRF Moderator & 2024 SubLV41 Patron Join Date: Jul 2013 Real Name: Adam Location: Far East Watch: Golden Tuna Posts: 28,798	"I thought, well if I am a mod I can control any future claims." But you didn't think to tell anyone on TRF that you were going"undercover", and despite spending hours a day here in the Watchout section, you didn't see a link between FWB and all the other aliases he has used on TRF, many of which can be seen as being "online" at FWB at various times?

24 November 2016, 09:26 AM	#26
Kiaraff "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2015 Location: Antwerp - Belgium Posts: 116	Adam, you are in the Terry Allison Show http://replicatimepieces.info/index....206&Itemid=149

24 November 2016, 11:50 AM	#28
Chewbacca Banned Join Date: May 2012 Real Name: CJ Location: Kashyyyk Watch: Kessel Run Chrono Posts: 21,112	what a mess.

25 November 2016, 12:48 AM	#29
usrudiver932 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2016 Real Name: Larry B Location: Ontario, Canada Watch: 116610LN Posts: 207	Lugs dont look right same with winder. My 2 cents

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