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Vipes · 7 February 2017, 12:40 AM

Hi all,

I've been unsuccessful in my quest to obtain a nice example of the PP 5110p. I'm just going to wait until I can find a nice one with complete set. I decided to pull the trigger on the 5164a since it's been on my list for awhile now. I popped into my AD and I was surprised that he didn't offer much of a discount. He claimed that the 5164 is very hard to get and he sold two at list price in the past. I thought the market for this piece is pretty soft. Am I wrong? BTW, he offered 10% off which I didn't bite. Thanks guys

toucan · 7 February 2017, 12:52 AM

Having just bought mine recently and speaking to a lot of people and ADs the market is definitely tightening. 10% is more than fair right now from an AD.

martinr · 7 February 2017, 01:08 AM

You can do better than 10%.

GB-man · 7 February 2017, 01:46 AM

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Originally Posted by martinr

You can do better than 10%.

Agreed. Just saw one in the case at lenkersdorfer in tyson mall. Not sure if they deal or not just throwing it out there

toucan · 7 February 2017, 01:48 AM

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Originally Posted by martinr

You can do better than 10%.

Have you bought one recently and have you shopped around recently?

martinr · 7 February 2017, 01:59 AM

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Originally Posted by toucan

Have you bought one recently and have you shopped around recently?

Yes. It all depends on the AD. Should the OP just take your word for it?

toucan · 7 February 2017, 02:16 AM

No he should shop around but having done the search I am aware of the current market. He might get lucky and save 1k.

martinr · 7 February 2017, 02:22 AM

AD cost is right around 20K so there is plenty of room to negotiate. Retail is $33,500.

Vipes · 7 February 2017, 02:28 AM

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Originally Posted by martinr

AD cost is right around 20K so there is plenty of room to negotiate. Retail is $33,500.

Thanks, guys. I have a pretty good relationship with my AD and when he didn't budge much, I second guessed my knowledge of the market for this piece. Probably a sales tactic.

WAK4 · 7 February 2017, 02:33 AM

I think 10% is a little light, I'd be looking more like 15% from AD.

Vipes · 7 February 2017, 02:41 AM

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Originally Posted by WAK4

I think 10% is a little light, I'd be looking more like 15% from AD.

Thanks, Bill.

texex91 · 7 February 2017, 03:44 AM

Martin is right (in US) 15-20% is doable with relationship.

While not on every street corner, 5164 is not a unicorn.

Vipes · 7 February 2017, 07:28 AM

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Originally Posted by texex91

Martin is right (in US) 15-20% is doable with relationship.

While not on every street corner, 5164 is not a unicorn.

This is what I thought. Thanks, Paul. Yes, no unicorn

raclaims · 7 February 2017, 07:37 AM

Got a pretty good deal on mine...but in the end it's a terrific watch so don't drive yourself nuts over a few sheckels here and there...you'll love it.

Vipes · 7 February 2017, 07:48 AM

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Originally Posted by raclaims

Got a pretty good deal on mine...but in the end it's a terrific watch so don't drive yourself nuts over a few sheckels here and there...you'll love it.

You're right. Thanks for the reply.

AK797 · 7 February 2017, 10:34 AM

Even 10% in UK is not that great, I'd want 15% plus over there. I'm always told it's very rare too and yet these are pretty easy to find, never seen a 5167 yet.

mps354 · 7 February 2017, 04:40 PM

I purchased mine pre-owned, so I can't definitively comment on AD pricing, but I agree with others that you can probably do a little better. Great choice by the way, it's a great piece!

Sam Philip · 7 February 2017, 06:38 PM

10% for a 5164 is not great, aim for 15% upwards. Almost every AD I have been to had one in stock.

cervantes · 7 February 2017, 07:01 PM

15% should be good to go, if it's a dealer you have a long and good relationship probably a bit higher. I'd try to get a bit more than 10.

Vipes · 11 February 2017, 01:06 AM

Thanks for the help, guys. Here she is on the wrist. I'm loving the stealth look and the thickness gives it a little more wrist presence. I'll post better pics later. HAGWE all!

martinr · 11 February 2017, 01:13 AM

Congrats

nyc2la · 11 February 2017, 02:23 AM

Nice...congrats!

AK797 · 11 February 2017, 02:56 AM

Vipes · 11 February 2017, 03:01 AM

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Originally Posted by martinr

Congrats

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Originally Posted by nyc2la

Nice...congrats!

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Originally Posted by AK797

Thank you!

Etschell · 11 February 2017, 03:08 AM

nice love the travel time aquanaut.

RussW · 11 February 2017, 04:09 AM

Congrats, and great wrist shot - you've captured the dial beautifully.

greatmattsby · 11 February 2017, 04:22 AM

Congrats man, looks great!

WAK4 · 11 February 2017, 04:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Vipes

Thanks for the help, guys. Here she is on the wrist. I'm loving the stealth look and the thickness gives it a little more wrist presence. I'll post better pics later. HAGWE all!

Congrats! Glad it worked out

raclaims · 11 February 2017, 04:56 AM

Well done...it's really a fantastic piece and so functional for travel.

Vipes · 11 February 2017, 05:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Etschell

nice love the travel time aquanaut.

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Originally Posted by RussW

Congrats, and great wrist shot - you've captured the dial beautifully.

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Originally Posted by greatmattsby

Congrats man, looks great!

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Originally Posted by WAK4

Congrats! Glad it worked out

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Originally Posted by raclaims

Well done...it's really a fantastic piece and so functional for travel.

Thanks, gentlemen

7 February 2017, 12:40 AM	#1
Vipes "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Texas Posts: 4,983	Question about 5164 Hi all, I've been unsuccessful in my quest to obtain a nice example of the PP 5110p. I'm just going to wait until I can find a nice one with complete set. I decided to pull the trigger on the 5164a since it's been on my list for awhile now. I popped into my AD and I was surprised that he didn't offer much of a discount. He claimed that the 5164 is very hard to get and he sold two at list price in the past. I thought the market for this piece is pretty soft. Am I wrong? BTW, he offered 10% off which I didn't bite. Thanks guys

11 February 2017, 02:23 AM	#22
nyc2la "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2014 Real Name: Stephen Location: Beach Watch: 16660 Posts: 9,566	Nice...congrats! __________________ "Nothing great was ever achieved without enthusiasm." --- RWE

11 February 2017, 03:08 AM	#25
Etschell "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: FL Watch: platinum sub Posts: 15,884	nice love the travel time aquanaut. __________________ If you wind it, they will run. 25 or 6 to 4.

7 February 2017, 12:52 AM	#2
toucan "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: NYC Watch: 5970 Posts: 1,980	Having just bought mine recently and speaking to a lot of people and ADs the market is definitely tightening. 10% is more than fair right now from an AD.

7 February 2017, 01:08 AM	#3
martinr "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: California Posts: 3,109	You can do better than 10%.

7 February 2017, 02:16 AM	#7
toucan "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: NYC Watch: 5970 Posts: 1,980	No he should shop around but having done the search I am aware of the current market. He might get lucky and save 1k.

7 February 2017, 02:22 AM	#8
martinr "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: California Posts: 3,109	AD cost is right around 20K so there is plenty of room to negotiate. Retail is $33,500.

7 February 2017, 02:33 AM	#10
WAK4 "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Real Name: Bill Location: .. Watch: Always changing Posts: 4,178	I think 10% is a little light, I'd be looking more like 15% from AD.

7 February 2017, 03:44 AM	#12
texex91 "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: . Posts: 17,898	Martin is right (in US) 15-20% is doable with relationship. While not on every street corner, 5164 is not a unicorn.

7 February 2017, 07:37 AM	#14
raclaims "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: NJ Posts: 2,645	Got a pretty good deal on mine...but in the end it's a terrific watch so don't drive yourself nuts over a few sheckels here and there...you'll love it.

7 February 2017, 10:34 AM	#16
AK797 "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Real Name: Neil Location: UK Watch: ing ships roll in Posts: 59,448	Even 10% in UK is not that great, I'd want 15% plus over there. I'm always told it's very rare too and yet these are pretty easy to find, never seen a 5167 yet.

7 February 2017, 04:40 PM	#17
mps354 2025 Pledge Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Real Name: Mike Location: CT Posts: 9,193	I purchased mine pre-owned, so I can't definitively comment on AD pricing, but I agree with others that you can probably do a little better. Great choice by the way, it's a great piece!

7 February 2017, 06:38 PM	#18
Sam Philip Banned Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: UK Posts: 4,345	10% for a 5164 is not great, aim for 15% upwards. Almost every AD I have been to had one in stock.

7 February 2017, 07:01 PM	#19
cervantes "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2014 Real Name: Jay Location: East and West Posts: 1,894	15% should be good to go, if it's a dealer you have a long and good relationship probably a bit higher. I'd try to get a bit more than 10.

11 February 2017, 01:06 AM	#20
Vipes "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Texas Posts: 4,983	Thanks for the help, guys. Here she is on the wrist. I'm loving the stealth look and the thickness gives it a little more wrist presence. I'll post better pics later. HAGWE all!

11 February 2017, 01:13 AM	#21
martinr "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: California Posts: 3,109	Congrats

11 February 2017, 02:56 AM	#23
AK797 "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Real Name: Neil Location: UK Watch: ing ships roll in Posts: 59,448

11 February 2017, 04:09 AM	#26
RussW "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: England Watch: 5990 Posts: 3,351	Congrats, and great wrist shot - you've captured the dial beautifully.

11 February 2017, 04:22 AM	#27
greatmattsby "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2016 Real Name: Matthew Location: Netherlands Watch: YES Posts: 144	Congrats man, looks great!

11 February 2017, 04:56 AM	#29
raclaims "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: NJ Posts: 2,645	Well done...it's really a fantastic piece and so functional for travel.

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