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Old 26 February 2017, 03:52 AM   #1
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I've probably made about a million posts already, but I still haven't made up my mind. I need help picking my first watch. I know it's about what you like, but I also want advice on whether something will hold value and not be a fad.

I have been going back and forth on a Submariner v. FF Automatique. I narrowed it down back to Sub (LV, LN), but now I have fallen in love with the Tank watch series from Cartier. I love the Tank Solo REF#W5200026, but I cannot justify spending 8K+ on a Cartier. I have no problem dropping 10K+ on a Rolex because I know the value will hold.

The other part of me is wondering if I am falling for either a fad or I am steering too far into a formal watch.

What are your opinions on Cartier v. Rolex? Specifically W5200026 v. 116610LN/LV.
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Old 26 February 2017, 03:53 AM   #2
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I would say go for Rolex first then go Cartier
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Old 26 February 2017, 03:54 AM   #3
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Two completely different watches. Look at your lifestyle and dress and go with what suits you more.

I will say, though, it's hard to beat a sub for your first.
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Old 26 February 2017, 03:57 AM   #4
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I would say go for Rolex first then go Cartier

Exactly what I am thinking, but that Cartier is so gorgeous. I wish Rolex made Tank like watches, today.


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Two completely different watches. Look at your lifestyle and dress and go with what suits you more.

I will say, though, it's hard to beat a sub for your first.
It is extremely hard to go against the Sub. I cannot justify spending the same amount for a Cartier. I feel as if I am an old soul, which is why I fell in love with the Cartier. It looks presidential and the elegance it offers is one of a kind. I dress pretty preppy, so I guess both would work.
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Old 26 February 2017, 04:51 AM   #5
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I would go with Rolex
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Old 26 February 2017, 05:22 AM   #6
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I would say go for Rolex first then go Cartier


Concur.
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Old 26 February 2017, 05:23 AM   #7
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Have you tried both on? Rolex and Cartier are located next to each other. I personally prefer SubC.
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Old 26 February 2017, 05:24 AM   #8
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Wait to see what comes out at Baselworld.
Then buy the Rolex.
You should not wear that Cartier everyday.
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Old 26 February 2017, 05:31 AM   #9
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I'm not a huge fan of that Cartier. Out of those two the Sub for sure. I like the Santos 100 or the Calibre De Cartier with the in house movement if I'm going with Cartier.

But for your first luxury watch you can't go wrong with a Rolex. It always feels special to put a Rolex on your wrist.
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Old 26 February 2017, 05:36 AM   #10
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Both those watches are at opposite ends of the spectrum. Get both
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Old 26 February 2017, 05:43 AM   #11
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116610LN would be my choice
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Old 26 February 2017, 05:47 AM   #12
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I would say go for Rolex first then go Cartier
For sure, and Nick has a lot of both so he would know. I would probably add the SS Tank if both is a stretch, I had one, a fine dress piece.
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Old 26 February 2017, 06:32 AM   #13
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A Cartier Tank is the dress watch that I'm planning on buying in the future. They're a great watch.

But go Rolex first.
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Old 26 February 2017, 07:45 AM   #14
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Rolex first, the Cartier brand gets hammered in the grey market.
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Old 26 February 2017, 07:57 AM   #15
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Old 26 February 2017, 08:14 AM   #16
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Rolex by a long, long, long margin.
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Old 26 February 2017, 08:38 AM   #17
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For sure, and Nick has a lot of both so he would know. I would probably add the SS Tank if both is a stretch, I had one, a fine dress piece.
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Old 26 February 2017, 08:39 AM   #18
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Old 26 February 2017, 06:19 PM   #19
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I would go with Rolex
Yea. I think you're right. I might get both, but I don't want to over spend on my first watch purchase. I never owned a watch.

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Concur.
Concur.

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Have you tried both on? Rolex and Cartier are located next to each other. I personally prefer SubC.
I've tried the Subs on, but not the Cartier. I just love the presidential look on it. Kennedy wore one.

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Wait to see what comes out at Baselworld.
Then buy the Rolex.
You should not wear that Cartier everyday.
Not interested in what comes out at Baselworld. I lean towards traditional looks. Too many colors tend to throw me off. The LV is just perfect in color.

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I'm not a huge fan of that Cartier. Out of those two the Sub for sure. I like the Santos 100 or the Calibre De Cartier with the in house movement if I'm going with Cartier.

But for your first luxury watch you can't go wrong with a Rolex. It always feels special to put a Rolex on your wrist.
You might be right. I think you're right.

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Both those watches are at opposite ends of the spectrum. Get both
Might have to do that.

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116610LN would be my choice
Clean choice!

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For sure, and Nick has a lot of both so he would know. I would probably add the SS Tank if both is a stretch, I had one, a fine dress piece.
I'd believe him.

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A Cartier Tank is the dress watch that I'm planning on buying in the future. They're a great watch.

But go Rolex first.
Rolex indeed!

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Rolex first, the Cartier brand gets hammered in the grey market.
Yea. That is what I worry about. I don't plan on selling it, ever, but I like having a piece of mind.

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Rolex by a long, long, long margin.
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Old 26 February 2017, 06:23 PM   #20
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Go Rolex Sub or go home.
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It is a known issue that all of the SubC and GMTIIC's movement have reliability issues. Something to do with a spring that was introduced. I expect this to further increase the value of older Submariners and GMTIIs.
Heck why can't I start my own internet rumor and raise the prices of MY WATCHES!!!!
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Old 26 February 2017, 07:56 PM   #21
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Sub all the way !!!
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Old 26 February 2017, 08:16 PM   #22
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I think you might prefer the 114060.
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Old 26 February 2017, 08:25 PM   #23
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Exactly what I am thinking, but that Cartier is so gorgeous. I wish Rolex made Tank like watches, today.
Perhaps you should look at the Cellini line?
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Old 26 February 2017, 09:31 PM   #24
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I vote for Sub first whether it is a 116610LN or 114060. Of course there is the colorful option of a 116610LV.
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Old 26 February 2017, 09:55 PM   #25
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I can see the allure of the Cartier. I'd go Sub first, it's so versatile. I too love "old soul" type watches, have you considered a Reverso? I'd still go Sub! Good luck.
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Old 26 February 2017, 10:16 PM   #26
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Two completely different watches. Look at your lifestyle and dress and go with what suits you more.

I will say, though, it's hard to beat a sub for your first.
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Old 26 February 2017, 10:20 PM   #27
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Like the majority - Sub first (LV) for daily wear and the Cartier for dress to follow.
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Old 26 February 2017, 10:29 PM   #28
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Both look great, but hey this is TRF, so you probably gonna hear Sub a lot. I would say Watchwatcher says it best, Sub C is the best choice for a first watch!
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Old 26 February 2017, 10:31 PM   #29
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Old 26 February 2017, 10:42 PM   #30
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I would go with the Sub as a first and the cornerstone of any collection. You can buy a SS Sub-ND C 114060 slightly pre-owned from one of our Trusted Sellers here for right around 6K. If in the future, if you would like to move on to a Hulk or other watch then you will not get hurt in a trade/flip. The Cartier is a different story though. A little internet research will show a lot of opinions but I am of the school of thought that Cartier, while some very interesting designs, does not really move into serious watches. I know the history of the company, but if you buy it you own it. Look at the retail prices, then look at the resale value of any model. And that is asking price not buying price. Do yourself a favor and expand your search into JLC, Longines or several others and save yourself some money.
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