Watch Winders

[bobby81]

Has anyone had my problem I've bought three Watch Winders one a Diplomat & I'm finding when I take my Daytona off any one of them my Watch is losing seconds yet when I wind it manually it just gains a few seconds over a day

[GsurgBM]

You may not have the winder turning your watch enough.

[Speed]

Originally Posted by bobby81

Has anyone had my problem I've bought three Watch Winders one a Diplomat & I'm finding when I take my Daytona off any one of them my Watch is losing seconds yet when I wind it manually it just gains a few seconds over a day

Why use a winder for a Daytona? There's no perpetual calendar - much less a date...

[bobby81]

I have asked how many t/p/d should a Rolex get & was told 650 So have programmed the Winders for that

[locutus49]

I bought a watch winder and got tired of using it. Too much hassle for me.

[bobby81]

Because I like keeping the mechanism going but I can understand your point

[Speed]

Originally Posted by bobby81

Because I like keeping the mechanism going but I can understand your point

It's like keeping your car running in the garage.

In your case, all you will do is put wear & tear on "the mechanism" and accelerate your need for a service. Which runs around $800 - 900 for a Daytona I believe.

[DaveLemi]

I stopped using all my winders (except for a GMT) and tucked them away in my closet. Until I get a perpetual calendar, I'll take the 20 seconds I need to set my watches.

[droptopman]

Which Daytona? If I remember the zenith Daytona needed more tpd.
Oh and I have used winders for 20+ years and never had an issue with increased wear and tear or anything else.


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[bobby81]

No It's not a Zenith movement it's the latest Daytona

[waikeekee]

Originally Posted by bobby81

Because I like keeping the mechanism going but I can understand your point

Sorry to ask you this but I assumed you set the rotating direction correctly? Normally, for Rolex, it should be 650-750 TPD bi-directional.


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[victord66]

Originally Posted by bobby81

I have asked how many t/p/d should a Rolex get & was told 650 So have programmed the Winders for that

I have a Wolf winder (fabulous, btw) and have programed it for 650 as well, but on bidirectional. Do you have yours set for clockwise, counter clockwise or bidirectional? The people at Wolf tell me that on bidirectional it doubles the number of TPD. Is bidirectional the standard for Rolex? I don't want to over wind the watch.

[KDS777]

If watch winders had any real value and purpose in life, every single Rolex in every single AD around the world would be mounted on one in the display case.

[victord66]

Originally Posted by KDS777

If watch winders had any real value and purpose in life, every single Rolex in every single AD around the world would be mounted on one in the display case.

I do understand your point if you wear your watch daily, but if I don't wear my watch for a week at a time, I don't want the hassle of restarting it, changing the day/date and then hacking.
Much easier to just put it in the winder and forget about it. In this case, they do have value.

[Boaters]

Orbita is the best IMPO

[Heff]

Originally Posted by victord66

I have a Wolf winder (fabulous, btw) and have programed it for 650 as well, but on bidirectional. Do you have yours set for clockwise, counter clockwise or bidirectional? The people at Wolf tell me that on bidirectional it doubles the number of TPD. Is bidirectional the standard for Rolex? I don't want to over wind the watch.

Yes, the bi-directional setting doubles the setting you select. I have mine set to bi-directional for my Rolexes at 350 tpd.


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[piratepress]

When I went recently to buy my first Rolex, I was dead set on getting a winder. However, my AD actually talked me out of it.

Now, I'm glad I didn't spend the money on one.

[versatile1]

As explained to my by my Rolex RSC a winder will not cause undue wear on the engine. If you have a date then by all means use a winder if you choose as this is less wear then pulling and using the crown every time you need to reset the watch.
Where the winder is beneficial is if you let the unwound watch sit for any period of time and the lubricant becomes thin throughout the gears
Upon startup is where the real wear comes into play.
Keep an unworn watch on the winder and you will get the most life out of the mechanism
So I'm told.

[Rockrolex]

I have three quads from Brookstone. They all work great and are essentially silent. I program each winder motor (there are 12 of them) according to the manufacturer instructions. I only wear each watch once every 10 days or so, and I hate having to reset them each time I want to wear one.

Peter (Padi56) and I have diametrically opposing views on the value of winders, but that hasn't kept us from being friends.

BTW, I've had my GMT-II for almost 15 years and have never had it serviced. In fact, I've never had 3 of my Rolexes serviced (some I've had more than 15 years) and the one I did have serviced once didn't really need it.

[victord66]

Originally Posted by Heff

Yes, the bi-directional setting doubles the setting you select. I have mine set to bi-directional for my Rolexes at 350 tpd.


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Thanks for the advice. I think I'll set mine the same way.

[victord66]

Hmmmm.....now I seem to be getting conflicting information here. One says to run the winder at 650 tpd bidirectional and one says to run it at 350 bidirectional ???? I have a day/date Rolex. Could someone please clear this up? Thanks.

[ag986]

Orbita suggests 800-950 turns clockwise for the 4130 movement.

[S329]

I absolutely love my Wolf watch winder....I mean display case...

don't ever turn it on, but I like the aesthetics of a nice watch winder for display purposes

[KarlS]

Originally Posted by KDS777

If watch winders had any real value and purpose in life, every single Rolex in every single AD around the world would be mounted on one in the display case.

I can't speak for Rolex but every single Patek Philippe perpetual calendar comes standard with one

[victord66]

It looks like I'm getting conflicting information here. One says to use a setting of 350 TPD and another suggests 650-750 TPD. I have a Day/Date and a Wolf Savoy Single winder, which I currently have set to bi-directional. I now just have to determine which TPD setting to use. Could someone help me out here? Thanks.

[stylinleems]

Originally Posted by victord66

It looks like I'm getting conflicting information here. One says to use a setting of 350 TPD and another suggests 650-750 TPD. I have a Day/Date and a Wolf Savoy Single winder, which I currently have set to bi-directional. I now just have to determine which TPD setting to use. Could someone help me out here? Thanks.

Hi Victor, scroll down to Rolex:

http://www.orbita.com/database-search/

It states most automatic Rolex = Bi-directional (CW & CCW) 650
Daytona 4130 mvmt = CW 850 - 900
GMT 3135 mvmt = Bi-directional 650 - 800
Sub = Bi-directional 650


I set my Wolf 2.7 winders at 350 Bi-directional for both my Sub and GMT.

Hope this helps.

[904VT]

Originally Posted by Speed

Why use a winder for a Daytona? There's no perpetual calendar - much less a date...

+1

The 72 hour power reserve and lack of setting complications, make the Daytona a perfect candidate for a wrist and finger wind

[Cerachrom12]

Originally Posted by stylinleems

Hi Victor, scroll down to Rolex:

http://www.orbita.com/database-search/

It states most automatic Rolex = Bi-directional (CW & CCW) 650
Daytona 4130 mvmt = CW 850 - 900
GMT 3135 mvmt = Bi-directional 650 - 800
Sub = Bi-directional 650


I set my Wolf 2.7 winders at 350 Bi-directional for both my Sub and GMT.

Hope this helps.

I also have a Wolf double Viceroy 2.7 winder. If you set the rotation for bi-directional at 350, that will give you 700 turns per day total. Works perfect for my Subs.

[polaris72]

I have got my watches on Orbitas, which are reliable watch winders IMHO. Had some Diplomats which ran for 1-2 years for some less expensive watches. Based on my limited testing, my Rolex watches incl. my wife's ran more accurate on wrists. When on winders, their accuracy worsens twice as much. I.E., my Sub goes from +0.5s to almost +1s /day. Explorer goes from -1s to -2s. I am currently trying to cure my need for accuracy by acquiring a watch without second hand...

[nursejm]

All of my Automatic watch (rolex, tag) when put on diplomat winder,
accuracy dwindles compared on normal wrist use.

The best way to wind a watch is natural way, i.e., your wrist.

Use winder for watches with complication (date, moon phase).