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Marcus09 · 10 May 2017, 05:00 PM

Dear TRF, everyday I read the forum, and everyday people talk a lot about the perfect symmetry of the sub no date. Today while I wore my 2 year old Explorer I, I thought to myself that this might be even more symmetric than the sub no date. One thing that the sub is unsymmetrical is its bezel, the explorer doesn't have that problem. Besides, the explorer is the reason the sub exists in the first place and even earlier models have the 3-6-9 on the dial.
So what do you think?

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Andad · 10 May 2017, 05:29 PM

Hmmm,

IMO when I think about watch symmetry I am referring to the dial and my SubC dial trumps the Explorers 3 - 6 - 9.

Now if they were batons?

nursejm · 10 May 2017, 07:13 PM

The concept of symmetry varies from person to person..

As and old adage says, the beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

If you consider your explorer symmetrical, kudos for you.

Best regards,

Marcus09 · 10 May 2017, 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by nursejm

The concept of symmetry varies from person to person..

As and old adage says, the beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

If you consider your explorer symmetrical, kudos for you.

Best regards,

Exactly! Besides, I have small wrists and my explorer sits there perfectly. Not sure about subs though.

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Hotrod297 · 10 May 2017, 07:39 PM

I see your point.

Marcus09 · 10 May 2017, 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Hotrod297

I see your point.

Yep

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Old Expat Beast · 10 May 2017, 08:23 PM

actionkwj · 10 May 2017, 11:46 PM

ND Sub and explorer are the two purest models in the catalog

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Marcus09 · 10 May 2017, 11:47 PM

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ND Sub and explorer are the two purest models in the catalog

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Sky21 · 10 May 2017, 11:51 PM

I love the simplicity and elegance of the 1016 but I would probably choose a modern ND Sub over a modern Exp I.

bax_tron · 10 May 2017, 11:54 PM

I'll throw in the OP as a contender for most symmetrical dial.

Also it's just a Sub.

904VT · 11 May 2017, 12:16 AM

Why do you think the bezel on the Sub is asymmetrical?

I think the bezel is fairly well balanced

Viscount1961 · 11 May 2017, 12:20 AM

On the Explorer, it's probably my OCD showing, but now I can't stop noticing that the bottoms of the 3 and 9 both point in the same direction. If Rolex would flip one backwards, that would solve the lack of symmetry.

SrFADE · 11 May 2017, 12:28 AM

Have to tear off the crown to make it symmetrical around the 12 o'clock position. Just depends how far you want to take the "symmetry" equation.

Marcus09 · 11 May 2017, 12:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Viscount1961

On the Explorer, it's probably my OCD showing, but now I can't stop noticing that the bottoms of the 3 and 9 both point in the same direction. If Rolex would flip one backwards, that would solve the lack of symmetry.

He he. Nice one.

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samson66 · 11 May 2017, 12:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Hotrod297

I see your point.

Disagree, the 1-14 minute markers throw off the symmetry. If they went all the way around I'd agree.

brandrea · 11 May 2017, 12:32 AM

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Originally Posted by nursejm

The concept of symmetry varies from person to person..

As and old adage says, the beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

If you consider your explorer symmetrical, kudos for you.

Best regards,

Well said

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Well shown

AK797 · 11 May 2017, 12:40 AM

If I really wanted symmetry I'd buy a stick marker only model. Not a big deal for me.

brandrea · 11 May 2017, 12:47 AM

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Originally Posted by AK797

If I really wanted symmetry I'd buy a stick marker only model. Not a big deal for me.

I kind of agree Neil. A bit of asymmetry isn't a bad thing

CYKBC · 11 May 2017, 01:14 AM

symmetry is overrated

masyv6 · 11 May 2017, 02:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Hotrod297

I see your point.

Love my No Date for that exact reason! Love the balance of the dial.

GradyPhilpott · 11 May 2017, 03:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Marcus09

Besides, the explorer is the reason the sub exists in the first place and even earlier models have the 3-6-9 on the dial.

I'm not sure I understand this assertion.

I do agree that the Explorer is a beautiful watch, though, and I'm especially fond of my 114270.

Marcus09 · 11 May 2017, 04:18 AM

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Originally Posted by GradyPhilpott

I'm not sure I understand this assertion.

I do agree that the Explorer is an beautiful watch, though, and I'm especially fond of my 114270.

What I meant here that the original submariner aka the symmetric one, had the 3-6-9 on its dials before it turned into batons.
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ivanos · 11 May 2017, 06:50 PM

The steel 116000 is also symmetric.

Psmith · 11 May 2017, 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by CYKBC

symmetry is overrated

^ This, along with 'balanced' and 'clean'.

Marcus09 · 16 May 2017, 03:46 PM

Another perfect symmetry if you ask me.

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Chadridv · 16 May 2017, 08:08 PM

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Very nice sir!

10 May 2017, 05:00 PM	#1
Marcus09 "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Real Name: Batman Location: Gotham City Posts: 1,184	Perfect symmetry Dear TRF, everyday I read the forum, and everyday people talk a lot about the perfect symmetry of the sub no date. Today while I wore my 2 year old Explorer I, I thought to myself that this might be even more symmetric than the sub no date. One thing that the sub is unsymmetrical is its bezel, the explorer doesn't have that problem. Besides, the explorer is the reason the sub exists in the first place and even earlier models have the 3-6-9 on the dial. So what do you think? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________

10 May 2017, 05:29 PM	#2
Andad 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Real Name: Eddie Location: Australia Watch: A few. Posts: 37,487	Hmmm, IMO when I think about watch symmetry I am referring to the dial and my SubC dial trumps the Explorers 3 - 6 - 9. Now if they were batons? __________________ E

11 May 2017, 12:28 AM	#14
SrFADE "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: Colorado Watch: 116610LN Posts: 191	Have to tear off the crown to make it symmetrical around the 12 o'clock position. Just depends how far you want to take the "symmetry" equation. __________________ A few Omega A few Rolex Some other miscellaneous timepieces Everyone has a plan 'till they get punched in the mouth - Mike Tyson

16 May 2017, 03:46 PM	#26
Marcus09 "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Real Name: Batman Location: Gotham City Posts: 1,184	Another perfect symmetry if you ask me. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________

10 May 2017, 07:13 PM	#3
nursejm Banned Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: Abu Dhabi/Manila Watch: Rolex, PAM, Tag. Posts: 253	The concept of symmetry varies from person to person.. As and old adage says, the beauty is in the eye of the beholder. If you consider your explorer symmetrical, kudos for you. Best regards,

10 May 2017, 11:46 PM	#8
actionkwj "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: san diego Watch: me soak up the sun Posts: 1,245	ND Sub and explorer are the two purest models in the catalog Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

10 May 2017, 11:51 PM	#10
Sky21 "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: USA Posts: 885	I love the simplicity and elegance of the 1016 but I would probably choose a modern ND Sub over a modern Exp I.

10 May 2017, 11:54 PM	#11
bax_tron "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2015 Real Name: Bax Location: OK Watch: SEA-DWELLER Posts: 107	I'll throw in the OP as a contender for most symmetrical dial. Also it's just a Sub.

11 May 2017, 12:16 AM	#12
904VT "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2016 Location: USA Watch: All Rolex Posts: 7,024	Why do you think the bezel on the Sub is asymmetrical? I think the bezel is fairly well balanced

11 May 2017, 12:20 AM	#13
Viscount1961 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jan 2017 Location: New York Watch: 16750 ExpII Posts: 164	On the Explorer, it's probably my OCD showing, but now I can't stop noticing that the bottoms of the 3 and 9 both point in the same direction. If Rolex would flip one backwards, that would solve the lack of symmetry.

11 May 2017, 12:40 AM	#18
AK797 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Real Name: Neil Location: UK Watch: ing ships roll in Posts: 59,368	If I really wanted symmetry I'd buy a stick marker only model. Not a big deal for me.

11 May 2017, 01:14 AM	#20
CYKBC "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2017 Location: USA Posts: 253	symmetry is overrated

11 May 2017, 06:50 PM	#24
ivanos "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2017 Location: Planet Earth Posts: 190	The steel 116000 is also symmetric.

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