does box and papers mean original receipt aswell as warranty card

[hsm]

As the thread title,

I have seen a couple of pepsi's advertised that I liked, but when pressed on the claim of 'box and papers' it always seems to turn out that the original jewellers receipt is never present, the warranty card and box yes, but not the full claim,

I feel that I could be searching forever.

I really want the whole set,


how do others think?

[cwieb]

Original receipt is seldom included. As long as it has the warranty card/papers that will be considered a complete set.

[RolexNorth]

I purchased and sold models I purchased brand new from an AD in the past and always included my original receipt with the purchase. Then again, my purchases were all for cash.

I guess most purchases are made with credit cards and no one wants that kind of information printed on a receipt floating around out there for anyone to see, seeing as these watches get flipped often.

If I had used my credit card on a purchase, I wouldn't include the receipt with the watch.

[Rlxlvr1]

Unless you’re planning to keep it for 50 years and hand down to kids, I wouldn’t care. Very few people will pass on the receipt unless they’re keeping it for generations


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[tbonesteak]

I always keep receipts or some type of proof of transaction. For an unknown, it makes it a touch easier to sell (should you chose) when someone has verification that you're selling an authentic product.

[Woody]

Originally Posted by hsm

As the thread title,

I have seen a couple of pepsi's advertised that I liked, but when pressed on the claim of 'box and papers' it always seems to turn out that the original jewellers receipt is never present, the warranty card and box yes, but not the full claim,

I feel that I could be searching forever.

I really want the whole set,


how do others think?

"Box and papers" can include a whole range of items as can the term "full set". Not sure why a purchase receipt is so important but if one is included you should see it as a bonus. Good luck with your search.

[jrs146]

Personally I don't count original receipt as part of the "full set" just what Rolex provides.


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[sensui]

It depends on what you're buying.....if it's an esteemed vintage piece, original sales receipt actually could prove more provenance than warranty papers (especially hand written ones.....not that there's anything wrong with them as they legitimate ones exist, but too easy to forge.....even punched papers are well known to be forged). But for most cases, it just serves as an add on and warranty papers/documentation/booklets is considered full set for a watch.

[stevedssd]

In my view "Papers" = Guarantee Card/Certificate

A Full Set additionally includes Hang Tags and any other original items such as booklets, Anchor, etc.

I personally don't think having the original receipt is anything other than a bonus and I would always chose a great condition watch with less or no papers over an over polished disaster piece.

I certainly wouldn't pass on a nice watch because it doesn't have an original receipt

[hsm]

some good replies

the two watches I have seen appear to stack up, they have all the papers incl recent rolex service receipt, plus box and hang tags, but no receipts,


I get the feeling that this would be more than enough, for people on this forum, to give them the confidence to buy,

I suppose you can get paralysis by analysis if you are not careful

[Chewbacca]

Originally Posted by hsm

As the thread title,

I have seen a couple of pepsi's advertised that I liked, but when pressed on the claim of 'box and papers' it always seems to turn out that the original jewellers receipt is never present, the warranty card and box yes, but not the full claim,

I feel that I could be searching forever.

I really want the whole set,


how do others think?

if you want a "whole set", you could search for any GMT ss 5d with supporting items you require and simply add a OEM pepsi insert.

you could save a few thousand $$$ and also greatly increase your chances at finding something faster.

[Rick_Nashville]

I'm not a full-time, professional seller by any means, but if I occasionally need to move a watch, I always make it a habit to include the original store receipt (where available) as part of my 'full set' of box & papers. It's an integral component of the watch's history, it's an additional piece of 'authenticity', and it's a great way to build reassurance--and peace of mind--for a prospective buyer. And it's a simple matter to remove my last name, home address, and any credit card number(s) from the receipt with a scissors, lol. -Rick.

[hsm]

Originally Posted by Rick_Nashville

I'm not a full-time, professional seller by any means, but if I occasionally need to move a watch, I always make it a habit to include the original store receipt (where available) as part of my 'full set' of box & papers. It's an integral component of the watch's history, it's an additional piece of 'authenticity', and it's a great way to build reassurance--and peace of mind--for a prospective buyer. And it's a simple matter to remove my last name, home address, and any credit card number(s) from the receipt with a scissors, lol. -Rick.

yes, I fail to understand the mentality that throws away the receipt that would have the serial no. on it, and total proof, with the name of the store on it.

[hsm]

Originally Posted by Chewbacca

if you want a "whole set", you could search for any GMT ss 5d with supporting items you require and simply add a OEM pepsi insert.

you could save a few thousand $$$ and also greatly increase your chances at finding something faster.

I have a black gmt of this year, are you telling me I can buy a pepsi bezel and fit it onto this watch, I thought it wasn't possible on the newer gmt's

[Chewbacca]

Originally Posted by hsm

I have a black gmt of this year, are you telling me I can buy a pepsi bezel and fit it onto this watch, I thought it wasn't possible on the newer gmt's

What is "this year"? If you mean whether it's a pre ceramic, yes.

Ceramic bezel, nope.

[VicLeChic]

In an ideal world, on top of the warranty card and user manual I'd want the original invoice or bill of purchase as it gives an extra assurance and evidence that the seller is the first and only owner of the watch. No multiple owners, no middleman, a direct and clean transaction between an AD / boutique and himself. Traceability in other words and less risk of a frankenwatch. It's ok if the invoice is redacted to hide bank details or credit / debit card numbers. Realistically though, the warranty card and booklets will do as most people don't ask for an invoice when they buy a watch from an AD.