Parachrom in 3135

[kyozcx]

Well, we all know Rolex put the Parachrom hairspring in 3186, 3131, 4130 and 3135(which only used in dssd and new gold sub at this stage).
And we also know that when Rolex introduced GMTII-C. They slowly change their models' movements such as expII and GMTII which have 3185 to 3186.
So, has anyone found their Rolex which meant to have a 3135 actually has a Parachrom hairsping-3135? eg. Sub-non-date has a 3131. SubLV has a 3135-Parachromed?
I think Rolex Will put the one they used in DSSD which is Parachromed-3135 into all 3135 movement models such as datejust, YM, etc etc. The only question is: WHEN?

I will be Thankful if you can post some pic or info with a P-3135 in other models other than DSSD.

[Tools]

Hmmmm...

I'll put the 3131 on hold right now because the changes are more significant for the Milgauss than would justify putting it in the Sub just for the spring... Some of the components are made of different materials, plus it has the Faraday cage attached over the movement.

However, I'm with you on this... Rolex made no fanfare or announcement whatsoever when they started putting the 3186 in the EXP II. Also, the only place you really see that the DSSD has a Parachrom hairspring in a regular 3135 is in the press kits...

My feeling is that this is the hairspring that Rolex is using. I think that they're making them up as fast as they can and sending them to the production lines and not squirreling them away only for the "latest" movements..

We just need people to pop the back of their "M" and "V" models to get a better handle on a timeline..

[padi56]

Originally Posted by kyozcx

Well, we all know Rolex put the Parachrom hairspring in 3186, 3131, 4130 and 3135(which only used in dssd and new gold sub at this stage).
And we also know that when Rolex introduced GMTII-C. They slowly change their models' movements such as expII and GMTII which have 3185 to 3186.
So, has anyone found their Rolex which meant to have a 3135 actually has a Parachrom hairsping-3135? eg. Sub-non-date has a 3131. SubLV has a 3135-Parachromed?
I think Rolex Will put the one they used in DSSD which is Parachromed-3135 into all 3135 movement models such as datejust, YM, etc etc. The only question is: WHEN?

I will be Thankful if you can post some pic or info with a P-3135 in other models other than DSSD.

Eventually the new Parachrome spring will be in all Rolex watches but IMHO the parachrome spring is most certainly 95% pure hype,and the main reason for Rolex to develop there own hairspring.Was undoubtedly to stop the strangle hold Hayek from the ETA Swatch group,there main supplier of balance springs,they had such a strangle hold,on nearly all the Swiss watch manufactures including Rolex. But Rolex now can manufacture there own, but still Swatch Nivarox was/is there main hairspring supplier until Rolex becomes totally self sufficient. And the ETA Nivarox H/springs have been in Rolex watches for 40 plus years.Hence the need for this new parachrome balance hair-spring,to be completely self sufficient in all watch parts for Rolex watches.Parachome is just a word like superlative, Rolesor, Rolesium and many more.Is it going to be more accurate or long lasting than the Nivarox springs IMHO I would doubt it.Rolex movements from the 15XX upward have always been very accurate and extremely long lasting. Just look how many of the vintage ones are still running today 40 years on plus.Fact John Harrisons marine chronometer a watch made nearly 300 years ago is as accurate as the best Swiss watches made today so we haven't progressed a lot accuracy wise in over 300 years since Harrison's day. And without any fancy named parachrome spring and the watch is still running and accurate.

[argee1977]

Originally Posted by padi56

Eventually the new Parachrome spring will be in all Rolex watches but IMHO the parachrome spring is most certainly 95% pure hype,and the main reason for Rolex to develop there own hairspring.Was undoubtedly to stop the strangle hold Hayek from the ETA Swatch group,there main supplier of balance springs,they had such a strangle hold,on nearly all the Swiss watch manufactures including Rolex. But Rolex now can manufacture there own, but still Swatch Nivarox was/is there main hairspring supplier until Rolex becomes totally self sufficient. And the ETA Nivarox H/springs have been in Rolex watches for 40 plus years.Hence the need for this new parachrome balance hair-spring,to be completely self sufficient in all watch parts for Rolex watches.Parachome is just a word like superlative, Rolesor, Rolesium and many more.Is it going to be more accurate or long lasting than the Nivarox springs IMHO I would doubt it.Rolex movements from the 15XX upward have always been very accurate and extremely long lasting. Just look how many of the vintage ones are still running today 40 years on plus.Fact John Harrisons marine chronometer a watch made nearly 300 years ago is as accurate as the best Swiss watches made today so we haven't progressed a lot accuracy wise in over 300 years since Harrison's day.

And again, i agree 100%, i struggle to understand the fanfare that this has received, you read about it on the web and you'd think they'd had a major breakthrough that has turned the watch industry on its head, when in reality it's basically doing the same job to the same level as the old one.

I have a M series sub LV, i'm not bothered in the slightest what hairspring is in there.

[f16570]

More marketing hype from Rolex then?

[argee1977]

Originally Posted by f16570

More marketing hype from Rolex then?

Partially, they have put a lot of effort into creating this, as Padi says this now means they don't have to go out of house for this component anymore, but it is just one simple part of a watch, they haven't reinvented it, just made their own.

[Kennywingnut]

isn't there a video on youtube on the anti-magnetic nature of the blue spring?

I thought that was pretty impressive.

[KenrickJ]

If that feature isn't all hype and actually is something useful in the watch then it's all fine and dandy.

[Andad]

Originally Posted by Kennywingnut

isn't there a video on youtube on the anti-magnetic nature of the blue spring?

I thought that was pretty impressive.

Yes, I saw that but it wasn't blue.

[ohlins]

the new WG and YG submariners have a 3135 with parachrom bleu.... :)

[cody p]

Originally Posted by f16570

More marketing hype from Rolex then?

it is a 'big deal' to be able to manufacture your own hairspring. or should i say, it's no small feat. so it's more than just hype. like was already said: now rolex is no longer beholden to swatch.

[Tango21]

So, does that mean that, in the future, when someone sends their watch in for servicing and it needs a new spring, the worn out non-parachrom spring will be replaced with a parachrom one, i.e., they're interchangeable?

[ohlins]

Originally Posted by cody p

it is a 'big deal' to be able to manufacture your own hairspring. or should i say, it's no small feat. so it's more than just hype. like was already said:

agreed......... just like how patek developed their spiromax balance spring ... rolex was able to come up with the parachrom bleu.......

both are commendable efforts ..... if it's so easy, everyone will be doing it...

[ashe18c]

Originally Posted by directioneng

Yes, I saw that but it wasn't blue.

I thought they had parachrom springs that werent blue. And only recently perfected the blue color enough to have it on the spring. I know the daytona had the parachrom spring for years before it got the color blue. Not saying im absolutely correct, just from my limited knowledge..

[MaPham]

Does a V-series Sub Date have Parachrom 3135? My AD made a big deal out of how "special" the V series will be in future. He refused to discount the V series but willing 10% off on M series.

[Andad]

Welcome to the Forum MaPham.

IMO - not at this time but they must run out of the out-sourced spring soon so who knows when the first current model Subs will have them as standard?

[wostep]

The parachrome hairspring is a great invention. I see at least two to three watches a week in the shop that run out of whack due to magnetism, which could be easily fixed with a demagnetizer, but it could be very annoying for the owner. The parachrome hairspring is not the complete answer to magnetism, however it sure does help.

[wostep]

Originally Posted by Tango21

So, does that mean that, in the future, when someone sends their watch in for servicing and it needs a new spring, the worn out non-parachrom spring will be replaced with a parachrom one, i.e., they're interchangeable?

Changing the hairspring would require changing the entire balance complete.

[Neuromancer]

Does a V-series Sub Date have Parachrom 3135? My AD made a big deal out of how "special" the V series will be in future. He refused to discount the V series but willing 10% off on M series.

I think that only the gold Subs have the parachrome. Also, I'm fairly sure that the M and V Subs are identical. The last change in the Sub was when Rolex stopped putting holograms on the caseback in 2007.

[MaPham]

Hi. Thanks for the welcome! :)

Oh bummer, thought i was onto something special. :P

My 1st Rollie 16610. And full price too. sigh :(

Great place everyone got here. Very friendly atmosphere. Glad to be a member :)

[scudracer]

My 16600 Sea-Dweller, has the serial number V47538?. Pardon my ignorance but does it have this parachrome blue spring? Just curious.

[Tools]

The only way to tell is to open it up and look.............

[scudracer]

Hmmm, does this mean they changed to the PB spring mid-way during V-series production? I'm just a newbie to the big R. Still learning.

[Tools]

Originally Posted by scudracer

Hmmm, does this mean they changed to the PB spring mid-way during V-series production? I'm just a newbie to the big R. Still learning.

No, it does not mean that............ the SD has never been associated with the parachrom..

What it means is that they are putting them in the new ceramic
Subs and the DSSD, Milgauss, Daytona, Explorer II, Day-DateII, DJ II, GMT IIc... so, someplace there is an assembly line putting together movements that have their own in-house spring involved..

They are pretty cleraly incorporating it throughout the line...

So, the question is.. Did any of these movements find their way into the last of the SD's..

[scudracer]

Interesting! Mine was apparently the very last of the Malaysian AD's stock.

Sorry to digress. Strange story. Expressed interest to the AD's head via Facebook, booked it on the 8th and got it on the 14th (Monday). Apparently in between several enquiries came in, including two 'serious' would-be buyers.

I'll check with the AD on this parachrom blue issue and post my findings here. Thanks Larry!