Owning both Aquanauts!

[SDweller4000]

Hello, I’m pretty sure it’s my first post other than a good transaction post for a seller.
I have a simple question yet mind cluster for my self.
I was wondering if you guys think a PP5167 and a PP5164 can live in harmony together.
A little info, I currently own a 67 and love it, but I’m feening for a 64!
However I also own a Rolex GMT Batman which I adore also! Would not need to sell it but still need to mention that.

Are they (5167/5164) too similar ?
Is spending $30k plus on a 5164 right choice when I can possibly troll the web for a Nautilus 5726A leather (I like straps and leather watches lately).
I know it’s all reall based on personal choice but I’ve always loved the Aquanaut line from Patek but worry of becoming too one dimensional!
Thank you guys ahead of time for the help!
-Frank

[Marcus SE]

I find 5167 and 5164 rather similar and would not consider owning both of them at the same time. I own 5164 myself and find it more appealing to me with the GMT complication than 5167m but that is a matter of taste. I like a slightly larger size of 5164 as well

I would consider both of them only if one of the models (any) is a rose gold version.

[tyler1980]

5164A and 5168G. Thats the combo to have IMO

a 67 and a 64 i would not have both. IMO you should sell your 67 and get a 64. Then worry about what other watch to add later.

[tng11]

I thought of keeping both, but when the 5164 arrived I knew the 5167 was toast and would never get worn. 5164 is the overall better daily wearer and more visually appealing - there isn't a situation where I would prefer to wear a 5167 over a 5164.

[Vipes]

I have the 5164A and considering adding the 5167R. Both in the same metal is too similar.

[jon_jon]

Some people own 2 or 3 Subs (or Daytonas or Nautilus). Likewise if you really like the Aquanaut, there is no reason you can't have more than one Aquanaut. But it is a personal decision.

As a disclaimer, I own 3 Aquanauts!

[AK797]

Originally Posted by jon_jon

Some people own 2 or 3 Subs (or Daytonas or Nautilus). Likewise if you really like the Aquanaut, there is no reason you can't have more than one Aquanaut. But it is a personal decision.

As a disclaimer, I own 3 Aquanauts!

Very cool.

Having said that Jon owns quite a lot of Pateks so he's slightly different, and I wouldn't have two Aquas in a small PP collection; the Nautilus is my fave design of watch but I wouldn't have two of two. I'd also switch up to the 5164 and start planning for the 5726, on a bracelet if you can.

[SDweller4000]

re: tng11 , maybe i need to have both in hand to decide like you did.
aslo jon_jon may ask which ,model aquanauts do you own?

this is helping a lot, thanks guys!

[SDweller4000]

id only be intersted in a 5726 leather model.

[MoosicPa]

In my opinion, they are dissimilar enough to own both. Of course I own 7 Submariners, so I may not be the best judge...

[AK797]

Originally Posted by SDweller4000

id only be intersted in a 5726 leather model.

Nicholas on the other thread and you could do some business.

[Sam Philip]

Two completely different watches. The only reason I don't own a 5164 is that I got 2 other Pateks with the travel time function.

[SDweller4000]

i travel a lot for business, roughly half the year im flying or driving. so im considering the fact that pp5167 can be a fun weekend patek and some daily wear, and 64 can be my travel patek.

[kilyung]

I owned both 5164a and 5167a. I eventually found the 5167 to redundant. For full disclosure I also own(ed) 116710LN, 116718, and 116719. So obviously I like GMTs. I wear my 5164a most of them all.

[Oryx]

I own both in steel on tropical- they are very different in terms of the case shape, thickness and of course the complication.

I see no reason why they cant co-exist in a collection

[tng11]

Originally Posted by AK797

Very cool.

Having said that Jon owns quite a lot of Pateks so he's slightly different, and I wouldn't have two Aquas in a small PP collection; the Nautilus is my fave design of watch but I wouldn't have two of two. I'd also switch up to the 5164 and start planning for the 5726, on a bracelet if you can.

This is the key. It didn't make sense to have both as my only Pateks. My plan was to have a 5712/1A and the 5164A, which has now been crippled by the price increase.

Still very content with having the 5164A and 15202 combo though, so I still count my lucky stars every day.

[Peterandwatches]

For the normal person, even having one makes no sense. We are a weird group here, so buy what makes you happy.

Personally, I would strongly look at something dressier by Patek or ALS tho.

[SDweller4000]

Lol I swear I love this site! Only very few understand this comedy we all face. Haha

[1st amg]

Originally Posted by AK797

Nicholas on the other thread and you could do some business.

Neil, you read my mind! Hahaha


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[vtsyrlin]

Definitely one in PM and one in steel.
I have 5167 and was only yesterday offered 5164R by my AD.
I don't travel often, so GMT function is wasted on me.
Hence I've declined and will await 5726/1A or any other nautilus for that matter to come along.

[SDweller4000]

i think im just going to keep my 67 and buy a 5726, now the dilemma! i believe the retail on the 5726a leather model is 39400. so im going to call around maybe i catch an AD with one!

[Mitch105]

I think no as they are too similar. If you want or need the time zone complication of the 5164 and don’t mind the $$$ sell the 5167 as the resell right now is terrific.

However, many are avid collectors having multiple Daytonas Subs, GMTs or Speedy etc.

If that’s you sure why not and enjoy all the references. There are no rules just $$$ and what appeals.

But I would be going for a nautilus instead. And that’s assuming you can even source a 5164 or the nautilus.

[Ichiran]

If I already have a 5167, I will get the 5726 in strap because it is a Nautilus and it is not too similar with your existing watch.

But if you are keen on the travel time function, would you consider a 5990? That will be a great addition to your 5167.

[GB-man]

For me it would be too similar. Then again, many probably own a datejust and skydweller so not crazy if you want both!

[mps354]

I think too redundant. Go with the 5164, and start waiting for a nautilus

[nyc2la]

Originally Posted by SDweller4000

Hello, I’m pretty sure it’s my first post other than a good transaction post for a seller.

I have a simple question yet mind cluster for my self.

I was wondering if you guys think a PP5167 and a PP5164 can live in harmony together.

A little info, I currently own a 67 and love it, but I’m feening for a 64!

However I also own a Rolex GMT Batman which I adore also! Would not need to sell it but still need to mention that.



Are they (5167/5164) too similar ?

Is spending $30k plus on a 5164 right choice when I can possibly troll the web for a Nautilus 5726A leather (I like straps and leather watches lately).

I know it’s all reall based on personal choice but I’ve always loved the Aquanaut line from Patek but worry of becoming too one dimensional!

Thank you guys ahead of time for the help!

-Frank

You said above you like straps and leather watches “lately “.

I would suggest, for the long term, that you consider the 5726/1a (on bracelet). Considering you already have the 5167a, so a Patek on the exceptionally comfortable tropical strap, and since it sounds from the above that perhaps there is room for a change in your wants at some point in the future (i.e. from strap / leather to bracelet), I’d go straight to the Nautilus bracelet, which is also very comfortable and will offer some diversity in your Patek collection. And, to boot, it will offer more downside protection than the strap version. Food for thought.

[vtsyrlin]

I second nyc2la.
You already have 5167 on a strap.
Nautilus is "meant" to be on a bracelet (at least according to Hodinkee) so I would be shopping for 5726/1A on a bracelet...
In fact I am looking for an exactly the same thing right now! (just in Australia)

[tyler1980]

Originally Posted by vtsyrlin

I second nyc2la.
You already have 5167 on a strap.
Nautilus is "meant" to be on a bracelet (at least according to Hodinkee) so I would be shopping for 5726/1A on a bracelet...
In fact I am looking for an exactly the same thing right now! (just in Australia)

I agree unless you own more than one Nautilus. Then i quite like it. For my one and only its bracelet only.

[vtsyrlin]

totally agreed.
If more than one - 5980R...

[AK797]

Originally Posted by nyc2la

You said above you like straps and leather watches “lately “.

I would suggest, for the long term, that you consider the 5726/1a (on bracelet). Considering you already have the 5167a, so a Patek on the exceptionally comfortable tropical strap, and since it sounds from the above that perhaps there is room for a change in your wants at some point in the future (i.e. from strap / leather to bracelet), I’d go straight to the Nautilus bracelet, which is also very comfortable and will offer some diversity in your Patek collection. And, to boot, it will offer more downside protection than the strap version. Food for thought.

I do agree with Steve that the bracelet is the way to go as you have a rubber strap, but I will say the Nautilus leather strap is one of the nicest straps I have ever worn, came on my cousin's old 5711R and it felt very high quality.